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TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
Tue May 22, 2018, 08:43 PM May 2018

Grocery Chain Begins "Scan & Go" Shopping To Eliminate Check Out Clerks.

King Soopers in Colorado just started a "scan & go" programs. Customers will be encouraged to pick up a scanner and scan each item they select. At the end of their shopping trip the scanner will total their bill. They then can scan their credit card or probably a King Soopers debit card and leave after packing their groceries.

That means that customers will not need the assistance of a check out clerk. Plus KS has expanded its self service check outs and reduced regular check out lanes. If you follow the logic shopping is headed for self service with no need for check out clerks. There will likely be customer assistants, but there will a ba reduced staff.

I guess eventually customers will stack their own shelves. They will do all the work but still pay the same for goods.

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Grocery Chain Begins "Scan & Go" Shopping To Eliminate Check Out Clerks. (Original Post) TheMastersNemesis May 2018 OP
Actually robots will be stacking the shelves (a task in retail I don't miss). n/t PoliticAverse May 2018 #1
That is not far away. Blue_true May 2018 #30
Think bigger jberryhill May 2018 #2
Post of the day winner.! 🍻 Wwcd May 2018 #3
Can I have a hotdog bush? ProudLib72 May 2018 #6
Don't give them any ideas! Initech May 2018 #14
Happening here in WA state for over a year Kilgore May 2018 #4
we have self-checkout in the Walmart near us - been there for years - I prefer to use it DrDan May 2018 #34
Wal*Mart has a policy to keep checkout lines at least 3 customers deep, as people will accept it. TheBlackAdder May 2018 #55
i use them LSFL May 2018 #5
I don't like self checkout, for a variety of reasons (lost jobs being at the top) LisaM May 2018 #7
I will stand in a line before using self checkout rurallib May 2018 #10
Which means everything you buy will be tracked. LisaM May 2018 #12
I agree. Hubs Mom retired from A&P...she loved her job. It was a nice store. Demsrule86 May 2018 #49
What about all those workers Ptah May 2018 #8
or those blasted scanners that aid the checkout - and the cash registers that calculate the charges DrDan May 2018 #35
I use self-checkout only if the cashier lines are busy nuxvomica May 2018 #9
Hmmm LoveMyCali May 2018 #22
This has been going on for years where I live Dream Girl May 2018 #11
Technology is going to eliminate a lot of jobs in the near-term future. Jim__ May 2018 #13
That isn't going to happen...and any who believe this is the answer to companies screwing us out Demsrule86 May 2018 #47
I can walk into any Apple Store, scan a product with my iPhone, use my fingerprint to pay, and leave brooklynite May 2018 #15
And how often do you buy goods at an apple store? Merlot May 2018 #18
When was the last time you demanded that an Operator place your phone call? brooklynite May 2018 #20
What about gas station attendants? oberliner May 2018 #27
Not in my opinion. Just another way for greedsters to make a buck while screwing us...and Apple is Demsrule86 May 2018 #46
As of late last week,Smith's(kroger) Wellstone ruled May 2018 #16
safeway has a recorded message Blues Heron May 2018 #28
Have to say this, Wellstone ruled May 2018 #54
The Walmart near me got rid of all their self checkouts TexasBushwhacker May 2018 #17
Home Depot just installed them. I hope they have the same results. Merlot May 2018 #19
Yeah the thieves have figured them out Lee-Lee May 2018 #25
I refuse to use self check-outs. They never RandomAccess May 2018 #21
If you self check out at gas stations, you contribute to the loss of jobs. Kaleva May 2018 #24
There is a full service station a few miles from house...an independent. I support him. Demsrule86 May 2018 #43
That creates better jobs Bluesaph May 2018 #23
That's true, but someone already serviced the registers Lee-Lee May 2018 #26
There is a chain in New England that does this JDC May 2018 #29
So Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #31
as if. KG May 2018 #32
Then fuck em. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #33
one of my favorite posts of the past few months was on this same subject DrDan May 2018 #36
and soon robots heaven05 May 2018 #37
Not unless they start paying me a salary HAB911 May 2018 #38
Self checkout has been around for years left-of-center2012 May 2018 #39
They have no cashiers...none. I won't use self checkout...my little protest against greedy ass Demsrule86 May 2018 #42
Self checkout has no cashier left-of-center2012 May 2018 #51
I don't use them....and our Walmart has dropped the idea of no cashiers. They lost money. Demsrule86 May 2018 #53
Walmart tried this near us and have abandoned the effort...it was a disaster. Demsrule86 May 2018 #40
My problem with self checkout is that pnwest May 2018 #41
The reason this may not catch on treestar May 2018 #44
This has been happening in Mass for like 3 years at Stop and Shop. Agschmid May 2018 #45
Yup. I do wonder how well it works by location. Blue_Adept May 2018 #48
It doesn't seem to get much use IMO. Agschmid May 2018 #52
I love self check out Blue_Adept May 2018 #50

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. That is not far away.
Wed May 23, 2018, 07:40 AM
May 2018

No candidates or government officials are thinking about what happens to workers when there are no jobs.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
2. Think bigger
Tue May 22, 2018, 08:48 PM
May 2018

Soon, they will have customers grow vegetables in their own backyard, and pay for them with an app, to provide freshness and the convenience of not having to even go to the store!
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
3. Post of the day winner.! 🍻
Tue May 22, 2018, 08:53 PM
May 2018

And you know people would pay for that App too.

My background is horticulture. I need to hire me an App developer..fast


We have had the hand scanners in Walmart, Kroger & Albertsons stores for about 6 mo.

I dont use them & I'm not sure how big a hit they are. I don't see a lot of people using them, but I don't spend much time in grocery stores either.


Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
4. Happening here in WA state for over a year
Tue May 22, 2018, 08:59 PM
May 2018

Walmart installed checkstands with a scale, belt and hand scanner. A regular check stand without the person. Its designed for self checking a whole basket of goods.

They also have cut way back on the number of checkers, so there is really no choice but to self check.

TheBlackAdder

(28,190 posts)
55. Wal*Mart has a policy to keep checkout lines at least 3 customers deep, as people will accept it.
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:12 PM
May 2018

.

Their mentality is that people will stand in line if they save money.

They also do not want customers to get used to Target-level service, where new lines will open dynamically.

If they quickly open lines, when 3 deep, then customers will expect them to do that in the future.

.

LisaM

(27,810 posts)
7. I don't like self checkout, for a variety of reasons (lost jobs being at the top)
Tue May 22, 2018, 09:12 PM
May 2018

but I was at one recently (not by choice, my SO and I were shopping together and he headed over there) and it's MADDENING. We had brought two bags, and we'd walked to the store, so I wanted them to weigh the same. Let me tell you, that system doesn't like that. I put a couple of heavy things in one bag, then tried to switch to the second bag with a few more heavy things, than I was going to start putting the lighter things on top in both bags and it was terrible. It also didn't recognize all the types of peppers I had.

But, mainly, I don't care to support the lost retail jobs. I remember when being a grocery checker was a good job, some of my friends' mothers retired on it. And they were always at the store, friendly and ready with a hello and a little conversation when we were in line.

I cannot understand the mindset behind consumers who don't support keeping those jobs.

rurallib

(62,413 posts)
10. I will stand in a line before using self checkout
Tue May 22, 2018, 09:26 PM
May 2018

If they want me to do their work, give me some money.

Better yet give someone a job with good pay and benefits.

The future sadly will be RFIDs and there won't even be any checkout stands - push your cart through the door and all items in your cart will be scanned, totaled and onto to a pay station - credit card or debit card only.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
49. I agree. Hubs Mom retired from A&P...she loved her job. It was a nice store.
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:04 AM
May 2018

I shop mostly at locally owned stores like Sparkles in Northern Ohio...great store with friendly cashiers and not one stupid self-check in the place.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
35. or those blasted scanners that aid the checkout - and the cash registers that calculate the charges
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:08 AM
May 2018

and change back (if paying in cash) - and those auto-doors, and electric carts for those needing assistance.

Yep innovation is killing us.

nuxvomica

(12,423 posts)
9. I use self-checkout only if the cashier lines are busy
Tue May 22, 2018, 09:22 PM
May 2018

But there are problems with them. After the first item, the machine prompts me to enter my phone number for the "rewards" program but every time I've done that the machine doubles the count of the last item I scanned and I have to remove the item from the list and find a human employee to approve the removal or the machine just stops doing anything. I complained to a cashier about it and she said "Good! Maybe they'll get rid of them."

LoveMyCali

(2,015 posts)
22. Hmmm
Tue May 22, 2018, 11:40 PM
May 2018

I haven't noticed if it duplicates the first item when I use self checkouts. Guess I should be more aware from now on since there's a good chance we have been shopping at the same store.

Jim__

(14,075 posts)
13. Technology is going to eliminate a lot of jobs in the near-term future.
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:06 PM
May 2018

We need to implement a guaranteed basic income to help people get through times of unemployment. To get that, we need to elect people who have some vision.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
47. That isn't going to happen...and any who believe this is the answer to companies screwing us out
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:01 AM
May 2018

of jobs should consider the new work requirements for Medicaid... America will never go for basic income so time to thing of alternatives.

brooklynite

(94,540 posts)
15. I can walk into any Apple Store, scan a product with my iPhone, use my fingerprint to pay, and leave
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:36 PM
May 2018

Progress.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
18. And how often do you buy goods at an apple store?
Tue May 22, 2018, 11:03 PM
May 2018

My guess is not as often as you go grocery shopping. Plus, apple stores keep a lot of employees around.

I refuse to check/bag my own groceries unless i get a discount for doing the work of the person they just laid off.

I know it's a loosing battle, but still, I want someone else to bag my groceries. It's just more work for me, and I have enough to do already.

We're all going to be working for free so corporations can save money.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
46. Not in my opinion. Just another way for greedsters to make a buck while screwing us...and Apple is
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:00 AM
May 2018

the worst. I don't buy any products from Apple.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
16. As of late last week,Smith's(kroger)
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:42 PM
May 2018

rolled this out. First thing I noticed today was this,theft by a person using this app. Yes,that person had her order double checked by a Corporate Person assigned to that store during this roll out. The Person who tried to slide by,was reminded that she only scanned one item when she had three in her cart.

Oh must have forgot,yah right.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
54. Have to say this,
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:07 PM
May 2018

a fellow co-worker at one time,his daughter was the chief of Target Product Security. Notice Target Stores do not have self Check outs.

In retail in is called Shrink,another word is theft.

Target Store data showed it was cheaper to have Cashier's first to minimize shrink, and to better make Target shopping experience better.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,186 posts)
17. The Walmart near me got rid of all their self checkouts
Tue May 22, 2018, 10:44 PM
May 2018

They were having too much theft. People would scan some, but not all, of their items.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
19. Home Depot just installed them. I hope they have the same results.
Tue May 22, 2018, 11:04 PM
May 2018

I seriously have no sympathy for stores that get ripped off with the self-checkouts.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
25. Yeah the thieves have figured them out
Wed May 23, 2018, 06:36 AM
May 2018

They know the things work on weight and visual look, so they know how to manipulate them. That pair of jeans might have a small kids size t-shirt inside close enough in weight, or that magazine may have a greeting card inside of it, etc.

And of course a common one is the bulky item on the bottom of the cart they “forgot” to scan.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
21. I refuse to use self check-outs. They never
Tue May 22, 2018, 11:09 PM
May 2018

offer me a discount for doing so, while they're making more money by having less labor costs. Nope, not going to contribute to their greed in that way.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
43. There is a full service station a few miles from house...an independent. I support him.
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:58 AM
May 2018

You don't have much choice otherwise.

Bluesaph

(703 posts)
23. That creates better jobs
Wed May 23, 2018, 12:34 AM
May 2018

Grocery workers get shit pay compared to technicians who service the machines. Not to mention if they are manufactured in US.

Just another viewpoint.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
26. That's true, but someone already serviced the registers
Wed May 23, 2018, 06:38 AM
May 2018

So no new job was created, they jobs making and servicing the register now just make and service the self-checks, while 4-6 cashiers were replaced by one person in that middle desk watching them all.

JDC

(10,127 posts)
29. There is a chain in New England that does this
Wed May 23, 2018, 06:59 AM
May 2018

The scanners sit in their charging stations and rarely do I see them used.

I think they forget about the bagging process. Even if I shop with my own reusable bags, i dont want to bag as I go.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
36. one of my favorite posts of the past few months was on this same subject
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:12 AM
May 2018

the OP was whining on about the loss of jobs caused by these self-checkout stations. The OP continued that they now preferred to shop on-line.

smh

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
37. and soon robots
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:35 AM
May 2018

will be stocking the shelves, cleaning the building, providing security along with hundreds of cameras. Human beings are only going to be needed as pawns for war, both civilian and military.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
42. They have no cashiers...none. I won't use self checkout...my little protest against greedy ass
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:56 AM
May 2018

companies...I will wait an hour to check out with a person or leave and go elsewhere.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
51. Self checkout has no cashier
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:07 AM
May 2018

There may be one employee nearby overseeing six or so self checkout spots
in case you have a problem.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
41. My problem with self checkout is that
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:56 AM
May 2018

it’s just damn quicker to have two people working on getting my stuff rung up - me unloading while cashier is ringing - then me fumbling around in my purse, while cashier loads bags in my cart. It’s just too damn slow and disorganized to self check with anything more than one bagful - and I got shit to do, man.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
44. The reason this may not catch on
Wed May 23, 2018, 09:58 AM
May 2018

They move the work to the consumer. Having to scan everything and use the machines is handing work to the consumer. Any computerization does something of this. People will get tired of it. There is already a fatigue with passwords and usernames.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
48. Yup. I do wonder how well it works by location.
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:03 AM
May 2018

I know some people in their 40's that use it but older folks tend not to. I have no idea with younger shoppers.

I wonder how much of it will be generational, though things spread over time and as it becomes more popular. This just hasn't been popular as I think people simply find it too complicated or not worth the effort.

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
50. I love self check out
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:05 AM
May 2018

The Hannaford chain here in MA got bought out and Shaws picked up a lot of their stores and removed all the self check out things.

I do my main marketing at Market Basket (no self checkout) but I do smaller pickups and such during the week at Shaws because it's closer. I loved the self checkout for a couple of items because I could just get it done fast and out.

Some days I really just have no desire for human interaction. Other days I'm good for it and will hit the line.

My eldest daughter has anxiety in dealing with people sometimes and really preferred the self check out line.

I'd rather just have options. Eliminating options sucks. The self checkout was also great for employees going on break as they could just get their drink and snack and check out. Now in Shaws they have to stand in line during the day with all the elderly folks that come in and wait forever just to get it.

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