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Judge Wood just read Michael Avenatti the riot act (Original Post) oberliner May 2018 OP
Avenatti has got too carried away with his media appearances. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #1
He really has. I'm not sure he was ever "representing" Daniels. I am glad he's after trump. Hoyt May 2018 #7
I made this comment a couple weeks ago, saying I like him and he's doing some good work OliverQ May 2018 #16
Or in other words, put up and shut up or don't. n/t PoliticAverse May 2018 #2
Well shit, this doesn't sound good. PearliePoo2 May 2018 #3
No; he has to choose between being a lawyer and being a media personality. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #6
OK, thank you! PearliePoo2 May 2018 #8
Oh, he got the message jberryhill May 2018 #15
Well yes, he would personally have to stop his tour... pbmus May 2018 #4
Unsurprising jberryhill May 2018 #5
Yeah, Mr. Avenatti has crossed quite a few lines, hasn't he? PJMcK May 2018 #14
The rights of the guilty must be preserved. gibraltar72 May 2018 #9
The rights of everyone must be preserved. And nobody's guilty The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #10
C'mon lighten up. gibraltar72 May 2018 #21
I guess we shouldn't be so serious about the constitutional rights of defendants. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #22
Claiming the "riot act" holds such a low bar these days. NCTraveler May 2018 #11
That is what I thought. LiberalFighter May 2018 #18
The Judge does not want to appear biased in any way, therefore, she is handling this 33taw May 2018 #12
I'm with Avenatti! manor321 May 2018 #13
Shitty thing to say about a highly respected federal judge who is handling the matter correctly The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #20
Don't care. He has my gratitude for showing Trump Jr.'s criminal meeting. Demsrule86 May 2018 #17
Ha. Surprised it took THIS long! Roland99 May 2018 #19

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
1. Avenatti has got too carried away with his media appearances.
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:21 PM
May 2018

He's done useful work regarding Stormy Daniel's case and helping to expose some of Cohen's and Trump's shenanigans but it's time for him to get off the tv, go back to the office and do some legal work. He's fallen in love with the tv cameras and that is starting to cause problems for him. You don't want to incur the wrath of a respected judge like Kimba Wood.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. He really has. I'm not sure he was ever "representing" Daniels. I am glad he's after trump.
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:38 PM
May 2018


But if Daniels gets trampled on in the process, I think she'd have a case for poor representation.
 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
16. I made this comment a couple weeks ago, saying I like him and he's doing some good work
Wed May 30, 2018, 02:38 PM
May 2018

but questioning whether his media appearances might hurt him. I got attacked by a bunch of people here, saying no they don't hurt him.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
3. Well shit, this doesn't sound good.
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:23 PM
May 2018

I don't know any legal stuff but maybe she's telling him he has to go dark and off the air. If so, I'll miss him!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
6. No; he has to choose between being a lawyer and being a media personality.
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:37 PM
May 2018

He isn't completely prohibited from commenting in public about his case in general terms, but he's been trying to insert himself into proceedings that don't have much relevance to the Stormy Daniels case. Since the case before Judge Wood is a criminal case, Cohen's constitutional rights as a potential criminal defendant (he hasn't actually been charged yet, but that's certainly coming) and his right to protect certain of his documents and work product have priority over Avenatti's demands for documents that may or may not have anything to do with Daniels, as well as Avenatti's ;public comments about the merits of the Cohen case. The judge is trying to keep him from involving himself in a fashion, including by making public comments, that would complicate or prejudice the criminal case.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
8. OK, thank you!
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:05 PM
May 2018

Alright Avenattii, don't, don't screw this up!

I sure hope he knows what he's doing and has a talented team working for him.

The way I see it, he doesn't lack for confidence (bordering on cockiness, even) but that may be what's needed to take on BLOTUS.

He definitely has rock-star status now! lol



pbmus

(12,422 posts)
4. Well yes, he would personally have to stop his tour...
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:25 PM
May 2018

But he can certainly get a spokesperson to carry on....

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. Unsurprising
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:28 PM
May 2018

This is a criminal matter, and is likely to lead to an indictment. The principal concern of the court is safeguarding the rights of a criminal defendant.

Avenatti is seeking to intervene in this evidentiary proceeding on the basis of a very narrow and somewhat speculative interest in relation to any materials which may have been seized in the raid which constitute attorney work product generated in connection with the Daniels contract.

However, as a participant in the proceeding, he would have to make a choice between being a television personality and being an attorney and subject to the relevant rule:

New York Rules of Professional Conduct

RULE 3.6:
TRIAL PUBLICITY


(a)
A lawyer who is participating in or has participated in a criminal or civil
matter shall not make an extrajudicial statement that the lawyer knows or reasonably
should know will be disseminated by means of public communication and will have a
substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing an adjudicative proceeding in the matter.

(b)
A statement ordinarily is likely to prejudice materially an adjudicative
proceeding when it refers to a civil matter triable to a jury, a criminal matter or any other
proceeding that could result in incarceration, and the statement relates to:

(1)
the character, credibility, reputation or criminal record of a party,
suspect in a criminal investigation or witness, or the identity of a witness or the
expected testimony of a party or witness;

(2)
in a criminal matter that could result in incarceration, the possibility
of a plea of guilty to the offense or the existence or contents of any confession,
admission or statement given by a defendant or suspect, or that person’s refusal or
failure to make a statement;

(3)
the performance or results of any examination or test, or the refusal
or failure of a person to submit to an examination or test, or the identity or nature
of physical evidence expected to be presented;

(4)
any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of a defendant or suspect in a
criminal matter that could result in incarceration;

(5)
information the lawyer knows or reasonably should know is likely to
be inadmissible as evidence in a trial and would, if disclosed, create a substantial
risk of prejudicing an impartial trial; or

(6)
the fact that a defendant has been charged with a crime, unless there
is included therein a statement explaining that the charge is merely an accusation
and that the defendant is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty.

(c)
Provided that the statement complies with paragraph (a), a lawyer may state
the following without elaboration:

(1)
the claim, offense or defense and, except when prohibited by law, the
identity of the persons involved;

(2)
information contained in a public record;

(3)
that an investigation of a matter is in progress;

(4)
the scheduling or result of any step in litigation;

(5)
a request for assistance in obtaining evidence and information
necessary thereto;

(6)
a warning of danger concerning the behavior of a person involved,
when there is reason to believe that there exists the likelihood of substantial harm to
an individual or to the public interest; and

(7)
in a criminal matter:
(i)
the identity, age, residence, occupation and family status of the
accused;
(ii)
if the accused has not been apprehended, information
necessary to aid in apprehension of that person;
(iii)
the identity of investigating and arresting officers or agencies
and the length of the investigation; and
(iv)
the fact, time and place of arrest, resistance, pursuit and use of
weapons, and a description of physical evidence seized, other than as
contained only in a confession, admission or statement.
(d)
Notwithstanding paragraph (a), a lawyer may make a statement that a
reasonable lawyer would believe is required to protect a client from the substantial
prejudicial effect of recent publicity not initiated by the lawyer or the lawyer’s client. A
statement made pursuant to this paragraph shall be limited to such information as is
necessary to mitigate the recent adverse publicity.
(e)
No lawyer associated in a firm or government agency with a lawyer subject
to paragraph (a) shall make a statement prohibited by paragraph (a).

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
14. Yeah, Mr. Avenatti has crossed quite a few lines, hasn't he?
Wed May 30, 2018, 02:16 PM
May 2018

Thanks for posting the Rules.

They're fascinating in our age of trial-by-media.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
10. The rights of everyone must be preserved. And nobody's guilty
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:26 PM
May 2018

until they either plead or a judge and jury decide they're guilty.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
11. Claiming the "riot act" holds such a low bar these days.
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:30 PM
May 2018

Nothing shown here rises to that level. I've spent enough time in court to know what it looks like when a judge reads someone the "riot act".

33taw

(2,440 posts)
12. The Judge does not want to appear biased in any way, therefore, she is handling this
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:34 PM
May 2018

In the same manner as the Judge in Mueller/Manafort case. The judge in that case, was very ‘hard’ on the prosecution when considering whether to grant or deny certain motions. Everyone got worked up that she was hard on the prosecution. She ruled in favor of the prosecution and you cannot argue that she did not ask the hard questions. He probably needs to back off on the publicity tour and present his case to the court or have someone else present the case and go on tour.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
13. I'm with Avenatti!
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:44 PM
May 2018

The TV appearances are extremely helpful to the public. The judge can shove it, IMHO.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
20. Shitty thing to say about a highly respected federal judge who is handling the matter correctly
Wed May 30, 2018, 04:14 PM
May 2018

and in accordance with the law. The rules of professional conduct of the New York Bar say that a lawyer who is participating in a case "shall not make an extrajudicial statement that the lawyer knows or reasonably should know will be disseminated by means of public communication and will have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing an adjudicative proceeding in the matter." These include, among other things,

(1) the character, credibility, reputation or criminal record of a party,
suspect in a criminal investigation or witness, or the identity of a witness or the
expected testimony of a party or witness;

(2)
in a criminal matter that could result in incarceration, the possibility
of a plea of guilty to the offense or the existence or contents of any confession,
admission or statement given by a defendant or suspect, or that person’s refusal or
failure to make a statement;

(3)
the performance or results of any examination or test, or the refusal
or failure of a person to submit to an examination or test, or the identity or nature
of physical evidence expected to be presented;

(4)
any opinion as to the guilt or innocence of a defendant or suspect in a
criminal matter that could result in incarceration.


Avenatti has done all these things with respect to Cohen, which was permissible as long as he wasn't involved in the case. However, he wanted to intervene in the case, apparently in order to get access to documents. Since the judge has an obligation to be sure that no lawyer who is involved in a case she is hearing will make public statements that could affect the case, and since the rules of professional conduct specifically prohibit it, Avenatti had to decide whether it was more important to intervene in the Cohen case or to continue to talk about the case in the media. He chose the latter. Don't blame the judge for following the law and making sure Avenatti did so, too.
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