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OF COURSE HE DID. (Original Post) kpete Jun 2018 OP
MS-13 will love this lame54 Jun 2018 #1
exactly! This is like an early Christmas present to abusers and gangs renate Jun 2018 #27
Is this a strategy so that he can be fired and it not look Mueller related? nature-lover Jun 2018 #2
Nah, this is just Bettie Jun 2018 #3
pig in shit LSFL Jun 2018 #26
For my own education, does the AG "order" judges to do anything ? CincyDem Jun 2018 #4
See my reply #5 below Caliman73 Jun 2018 #8
Legislative, Executive and JUDICIAL. House of Roberts Jun 2018 #5
Unfortunately that is not accurate. Caliman73 Jun 2018 #6
The US AG has jurisdiction over this fallout87 Jun 2018 #7
Got it - thanks y'all. Quick summary: Judicial branch for US Citizens, Exec for immigrants. n/t CincyDem Jun 2018 #10
Well that strikes me as some bullshit... Volaris Jun 2018 #17
Not true either Hamlette Jun 2018 #19
thanks. CincyDem Jun 2018 #25
sure Hamlette Jun 2018 #29
"Intervene" does not mean "order". Any AG can intervene, do an appeal for instance, but to Fred Sanders Jun 2018 #22
Or simple refusal to 2naSalit Jun 2018 #24
Then why call them judges? House of Roberts Jun 2018 #11
They are called "Immigration Judges". Hamlette Jun 2018 #20
Who would have thought the Imperial Grand Wizard of the KKK gibraltar72 Jun 2018 #9
This orangecrush Jun 2018 #12
Here's the deal -- RandomAccess Jun 2018 #13
I agree with you. Volaris Jun 2018 #18
Republicans Are So Evil PaulX2 Jun 2018 #14
Discouraging people from reporting these crimes IronLionZion Jun 2018 #15
Heartless Fuck! calimary Jun 2018 #16
So Jeff Sessions loves MS13? dflprincess Jun 2018 #21
Those ladies... Gol dang, what's their problem? Ah mean, I'VE never BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2018 #23
Having done some work with asylum seekers, I'm not sure how this is anything new. SomethingNew Jun 2018 #28

renate

(13,776 posts)
27. exactly! This is like an early Christmas present to abusers and gangs
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:28 PM
Jun 2018

This country is turning to shit before our eyes.

nature-lover

(1,470 posts)
2. Is this a strategy so that he can be fired and it not look Mueller related?
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 03:50 PM
Jun 2018

So many evil policies. Makes me wonder.

Bettie

(16,121 posts)
3. Nah, this is just
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 03:59 PM
Jun 2018

Old Beauregard living his dreams.

He gets to know that his actions have caused people to die. Makes him happy as a pig in mud.

CincyDem

(6,385 posts)
4. For my own education, does the AG "order" judges to do anything ?
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 05:02 PM
Jun 2018


Since when does the exec branch order the judiciary ? Is this some kind of interpretation of an executive finding or order ?

House of Roberts

(5,180 posts)
5. Legislative, Executive and JUDICIAL.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 05:03 PM
Jun 2018

Judges aren't part of the Executive branch. They don't take orders from Sessions.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
17. Well that strikes me as some bullshit...
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 06:14 PM
Jun 2018

If Constitutional Rights come from Gawd, and are only enforceable by the Government (the Republican argument), shouldn't our constitutional standards for who has jurisdiction apply to all Humans, EQUALLY? Or am I to accept that Human Rights only apply to WHITE Humans?
Oh wait Puerto Rico. got it.
Thanks, GOP.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
19. Not true either
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 06:19 PM
Jun 2018

Americans are subject to many administrative law judges (ALJ) depending on the cause of action. Workers' compensation, unemployment, public assistance, social security, Medicaid benefits are all decided by ALJs are all ALJs are part of the executive branch and not the judicial branch HOWEVER, all decisions by ALJs (or Immigration Judges, which are the same as ALJs but for...duh..immigration) can eventually be appealed to a "real court" on appeal. Either the state or federal court of appeals.

Sessions can issue opinions based on his interpretation of the law like he did here. If the law/regulation is clear, and Sessions is wrong, the IJ or ALJ is required to follow the law/regulation, not Sessions.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
29. sure
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:03 PM
Jun 2018

I'm a lawyer and did admin law for 30 years. It's a fast, sort of down and dirty way to move cases through the system. I was the one who reviewed the decision of the ALJ to decide if it was right (or overturn it) and then defend the decision at the Court of Appeals.

You'd be surprised how many of us left leaners are in the system. I figured it was my job to tell the agency to turn left every time there was an option.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
22. "Intervene" does not mean "order". Any AG can intervene, do an appeal for instance, but to
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 06:41 PM
Jun 2018

order judges seems not right at all...maybe we will here from the judges soon...and en mass resignation?

House of Roberts

(5,180 posts)
11. Then why call them judges?
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 05:12 PM
Jun 2018

If they can be ordered to not consider the merits, case by case, they don't even fit the description of a real judge.

Not arguing, just pointing out a fallacy, as I see it.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
13. Here's the deal --
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 05:38 PM
Jun 2018

Domestic abuse wasn't a crime HERE until we (women, mostly) made it so.

Thus, whether or not and how well any other country handles domestic violence is a political issue, not merely a crime issue. Since it IS a political issue, that should put it under our asylum laws.

Volaris

(10,274 posts)
18. I agree with you.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 06:17 PM
Jun 2018

But since most Republicans wouldn't have domestic abuse be a crime HERE, you can guess the foundations for their counter-argument.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
23. Those ladies... Gol dang, what's their problem? Ah mean, I'VE never
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 06:46 PM
Jun 2018

Had that happen to ME. Ah caint reeelate at’all.

Ah can do whatever Ah want to them.
—Beauregard’s thought process


Some grab p******, some commit murder of millions. In a nice white collar way, of course.

SomethingNew

(279 posts)
28. Having done some work with asylum seekers, I'm not sure how this is anything new.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:46 PM
Jun 2018

I could be missing something here, and I'm certainly no expert on asylum law, but I've done some pro-bono legal work in the area and fleeing generalized violence, like gang violence, is not grounds for asylum. Domestic violence isn't either. The groups I've worked with trained us to try to frame the narrative such that those could be considered persecution based on a particular social group, but that has always been stretching the law to its limits and rarely works. The article discusses the inability of the Salvadoran government to protect the particular victim in that case. That is another element of the asylum application but isn't grounds on its own.

Sessions basically just says exactly that in the quoted material in the article. He didn't even issue a blanket bar on asylum for such individuals if its possible to fit it into one of the accepted groups.

I would like to see the laws opened up to allow more people to seek asylum in the US, but I don't really see how Sessions has changed policy at all with this.

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