Is it a stall? Cohen's lawyers abandon him...

[Wwcd]

Friday was set as the deadline:

"If the review of all the documents is due by fri is this a ploy to get the judge to extend the deadline? Has the firm filed with the court to withdraw as the defense attorney?"


They're snakes. Would this move by the attorneys prevent the case from going forward until Cohen gets new attorneys?

[blondebanshee]

1. My thoughts/question exactly!

[Wwcd]

5. Ok, I'm just gonna put a few eggs in the basket of hope, then

These aren't the kind of people I wanna gamble it all on.

I hope this all comes together neatly for Team Mueller.
If he succeeds in getting Cohen outta circulation, its going to have a ripple effect in the Trump syndicate's momentum.

Hope Muller is protected. This is serious stuff

[blondebanshee]

7. You're reading my mind Wwcd!

[Wwcd]

8. 🙄 I hope to have enough yrs left to someday look back at all this.

Hurry Mueller, I'm not getting any younger & this better not consume the entirety of my approaching golden years.

[sprinkleeninow]

2. Whatta loada crocka. Get on with it! n/t

[sunonmars]

3. She won't, its his fault he has no lawyer, does not stop the process.

[duforsure]

4. Maybe he's flipped

And has no further needs for them, and no more costly bills for something they can't stop from happening to him.

[Wwcd]

6. All they can do is stall. I don't see how they stop it from goung foward.

At some point the rats are gonna be down to only one corner .
Anyone connected to dirty Cohen has to be booking flights to Russia or in a slow burn panic.

They know they're all being watched & they know what crimes they did.

Ha.

[berni_mccoy]

9. I think you are confusing Manafort with Cohen.

Cohen hasn't been charged with anything yet. The fact he has or has no lawyers does not prevent his arrest and indictment.

[grantcart]

10. Friday is Cohen's deadline on special master review re: attorney client privledge

[Wwcd]

12. Yes thanks. We'll see what friday brings.

[grantcart]

11. Not a stall, Cohen hasn't been arrested yet

These attorneys were strategizing on attorney client privilege keeping the evidence out and that has collapsed so he needs a new set of attorneys to implement a real strategy which is likely to be cooperation

[Wwcd]

13. I believe the quote in the OP simply suggests or asks if it could be a stall

Considering how events can turn with the criminals that Mueller et al is dealing with, its a consideration.
Friday will bring an end to this question one way or the other. For this week anyway.

We're all worn by this & suspicion isn't unwarranted.

[grantcart]

14. The prosecution of Cohen isn't by Mueller,it's by the AG SDNY

It cannot be a stall because there is nothing to stall. Cohen hasn't been arrested yet.

[Wwcd]

15. Geezus. There's nothing here to argue

This particular subject with Cohen is not Mueller's We know that. That's why my post says"Mueller et al".
However, both Mueller & NY may share info should it come to a situation of a pardon.

Either you have misread the intent of the OP or ??

Its about a situation where Cohen's atty's have bailed, leaving some questioning whether that was perhaps by design to stall the proceedings by thus claiming the papers were never read.
Because the deadline to read them is by friday & there now are no atty's to do so.

Someone made that point.
That's all. Its about the friday deadline.


Here's a more interesting & factual read on what Cohen's potential cooperation could mean.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016208426

[grantcart]

16. Not arguing but your facts are not correct on a) who is prosecuting b) does Cohen have lawyers

For example

This particular subject with Cohen is not Mueller's We know that. That's why my post says"Mueller et al".
However, both Mueller & NY may share info should it come to a situation of a pardon.

Obviously you thought that the reference to the AG SDNY was related to the NY State Attorney General, it is not as you refer to them conferring (about cross jurisdictional prosecution) in the case of a federal pardon.

Cohen isn't (yet) under state prosecution. He is currently under federal prosecution but not by the special prosecutor's office (Mueller), but by the AG SDNY (federal not state).

Mueller found something that was unrelated to the Russian investigation and referred that to the Federal Attorney General's Office of the Southern District of New York AG SDNY.

The head of that office is a Trump temporary appointee and it is being handled by the career federal attorney general's staff in that office.

In the event of a federal pardon for Cohen it would apply to all federal prosecution whether Mueller or AG SDNY, which would open up a completely different set of legal issues.

The NY Attorney General could try to prosecute but that would be completely different from the current prosecution which is entirely federal.

Cohen is still represented by attorneys and his current attorneys cannot stop representation without permission of the court which is unlikely to agree unless he has replacement attorneys in hand.

As jerryhill explains here his current attorneys haven't even filed a motion to withdraw and it isn't likely that any judge would let them withdraw before the review by the Special Master is finished.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10728346

[Wwcd]

17. Good god. Mueller & NYAG can share findings under certain circumstances

THE OP WAS ABOUT VIEWING THE PAPERS & THE DEADLINE COMING UP ON FRIDAY.

WITH NO ATTY'S TO VIEW THE PAPERS BY FRIDAY, THE QUOTE ASKED IF COHEN'S ATTY'S ABANDONING HIM, COULD BE JUST A REASON FOR A STALL TACTIC.

BYE

[grantcart]

18. He is not being investigated by either Mueller or the NYAG but by the SDNY AG

That is the office of the Federal Attorney of the Southern District of New York. SDNY AG

Attorneys cannot quit or be replaced without the permission of the judge and his attorneys haven't even filed to withdraw from the case.

It is virtually impossible for anyone to be left without legal representation once legal proceedings have begun as the judge has responsibility to ensure that the rights of the defendant are not abrogated. No request has been made in court (as of this morning) and the judge has not agreed to allow the attorneys to withdraw.

You continue to be confused on

1) Who is investigating Cohen (neither Mueller nor the NYAG)

2) That Cohen (or any defendant) can either fire or lose their representation without permission by the judge and the rules for this are very explicit, so the possibility of Cohen changing his attorneys to delay the findings of the special master being presented to the court is simply not possible. On Friday Cohen will still have legal representation.

For that reason, even if the rumors of changing Cohen's

[mainer]

19. The lawyers I asked said it's probably due to nonpayment

They've heard that Cohen has stiffed his attorneys, which is why they're bailing.

[Wwcd]

20. Thank you. That makes more sense than anything else so far.

Considering how Trump himself has stiffed people, it would seem just the way they do business

[JI7]

22. wasn't the trump campaign paying for his legal fees ?

they must have stopped.

[Gothmog]

21. Lawyers fired Cohen over legal fees

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