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hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
1. I think those with kids are being made to believe that will expedite getting kids back....
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jun 2018

Evil and deceptive as that might be, but that's my guess.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
4. I'd imagine they aren't being given much choice, given no lawyers for most...
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 02:47 PM
Jun 2018

and probably don't understand the ramifications. Do you honestly think ICE agents are going to tell them what their options are? or make sure they understand their rights in Spanish?

The fact is is that they DID cross the border and they likely are honest enough to admit that. The whole game of pleading innocent in order to possibly get a better outcome is not likely something they are familiar with or "trust", given no lawyers (for most) and the fact that they are INCARCERATED. How many do you think KNOW the difference in a misdemeanor charge and a felony?

 

Trek4Truth

(515 posts)
5. I thought they had to be provided with a lawyer being that they are on US Soil. Yes I guess
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 02:49 PM
Jun 2018

I am being naive to assume people will do the right thing.

So basically this whole thing is corrupt and has been for a long time and now with Corrupt donny at the helm it's completely off the rails.

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
6. Trump cut the program that provided legal assistance. Right now NGO-funded and pro bono
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jun 2018

lawyers, including those from ACLU are doing their best, but hardly adequate.

 

Trek4Truth

(515 posts)
7. HOW is that legal? I thought it said it in the Constitution that if you are on US Soil you have
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jun 2018

rights. I'm so disgusted by this whole damn thing!

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
8. Likely IS NOT, but a case has to make its way to the Supreme Court...
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jun 2018

and he's counting on the chaos of the SHOCK DOCTRINE to get by with it.

Right now Civil Liberty Lawyers are most intent on stopping the childhood separation and the fact that no one is representing most of these children in their own legal procedures. A parallel track is running with cases arguing against "zero tolerance". The problem is the immediacy of the crisis is not being addressed by mere individual or even class lawsuits. There is some hope that at least a few of the State legal proceedings being brought might result in an injunction of some sort, but that has not happened yet.

 

Trek4Truth

(515 posts)
9. Corrupt Rump's legacy for years to come. I hope there is a class action lawsuit...thanks for all
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jun 2018

the info!

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
3. I think they tell them they have to plead guilty to reunite
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jun 2018

Technically, if they do the reunification should be triggered right away as theg probably now plan to deport both asap. but if they dont they will wait on avearahe 400+ days until the case is adjudicated?

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