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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:19 PM Jun 2018

National Guardsman: Immigrants Are 'Lucky We Aren't Executing Them'

An Oregonian national guardsman who left a violent comment about immigrants on an online fundraising page is now facing an unknown punishment, according to a Monday Washington Post report.

“Waste of money,” Gerod Martin wrote on the Facebook page for the online fundraiser working to “reunite an immigrant parent with their child.“ “They’re lucky we aren’t executing them.”

The Oregon National Guard confirmed that Martin is a private first class guardsman and that he will face some punishment for the comment. Martin has reportedly been a member of the National Guard since 2013.

The Facebook page has received over $20 million in donations to date.


https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/national-guardsmen-faces-punishment-for-saying-immigrants-lucky-not-being-executed
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National Guardsman: Immigrants Are 'Lucky We Aren't Executing Them' (Original Post) cynatnite Jun 2018 OP
That's our Organized Militia! Those scamps, with their casual references to summary executions... maxsolomon Jun 2018 #1
wonder what other 'militias' this racist asshole belongs to? spanone Jun 2018 #2
Still tarring all of them with the same brush, eh? The State National Guards really are... Hekate Jun 2018 #20
OK, I'll concentrate my tarring on the Unorganized Militia maxsolomon Jun 2018 #23
Yes I am happy now, thank you. Hekate Jun 2018 #25
Read Stars and Stripes Runningdawg Jun 2018 #3
He needs to be tossed out. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #4
Where did he get it from? ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #19
No question Trump needs to go but that is no excuse for the guard. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #21
Oh no, it is not an excuse. ProudLib72 Jun 2018 #22
He should be tossed out. dem4decades Jun 2018 #5
That's literally a Nazi policy Nevernose Jun 2018 #6
five years and he's only a pfc? NatBurner Jun 2018 #7
Not really. The National Guard promotes differently than the active force jmowreader Jun 2018 #15
I beg to differ with him. HE'S lucky he isn't executing anyone. shraby Jun 2018 #8
What is funny (strange, not Ha Ha) Bettie Jun 2018 #9
These guys are different form Nazis...how? Iggo Jun 2018 #10
I have to wonder how widespread these nazi leanings are in the military today workinclasszero Jun 2018 #11
This is why we need a National Service Requirement for all citizens. TeamPooka Jun 2018 #12
I agree workinclasszero Jun 2018 #13
otherwise it just becomes a mercenary force TeamPooka Jun 2018 #16
Probably more common than we'd like. Overall the military has a strong right slant Amishman Jun 2018 #14
NCO's are hard right DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2018 #26
Well at least he called them immigrants instead of illegals....I call that progress ! Trek4Truth Jun 2018 #17
He may want to review the law on executing people without a trial struggle4progress Jun 2018 #18
FU NG Oregon.. hope you Cha Jun 2018 #24
I know some here have a dim view of our military.... Oakenshield Jun 2018 #27
Spoken like a true Nazi stormtrooper. GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #28
There's one employer that won't need to accommodate one guardsman anymore. n/t brewens Jun 2018 #29

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
1. That's our Organized Militia! Those scamps, with their casual references to summary executions...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:25 PM
Jun 2018

Something tells me he'd sign up for Slave Patrols, too.

Hekate

(90,867 posts)
20. Still tarring all of them with the same brush, eh? The State National Guards really are...
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:21 PM
Jun 2018

...the "well regulated militia" I think the Founders had in mind. They pitch in during times of national disaster, among their other duties.

I assume there is doubtless some kind of disciplinary action in store for this moron. If they bounce him out, he can always go join the 2nd Amendment Morans Wannabe Militia.

maxsolomon

(33,432 posts)
23. OK, I'll concentrate my tarring on the Unorganized Militia
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:33 PM
Jun 2018

Happy now?

Dipshits with guns are just one of this nation's pressing problems.

Runningdawg

(4,526 posts)
3. Read Stars and Stripes
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jun 2018

Some of our military hopes to be sent to the border for "target practice". Others say the US is stupid for paying migrant workers. They have "stolen" enough. Lock them up until they work off the debt.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
19. Where did he get it from?
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 08:04 PM
Jun 2018

Maybe the commander in chief needs to be tossed out because his words are threats. Just saying...

These assholes will be saying things like this (and eventually acting on those words) until the Rump is put in prison.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
22. Oh no, it is not an excuse.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 09:59 PM
Jun 2018

You are right about that. I'm just pointing out the root of all this hatred and the hypocrisy we must live with tossing the guard out while keeping the instigator in the WH.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
6. That's literally a Nazi policy
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:06 PM
Jun 2018

When he and his community are finally put on the trains and enter Germany, Elie Wiesel mentions the big irony was that had they come in as undocumented immigrants, the penalty was death (if they weren’t just executed); Jews “only” had to go to the camps, where there was at least a slim chance at survival. It’s in Night.

That Hitler was also fond of blaming Germany’s problems on “illegal immigrants” and did so frequently to fire up his base is something the media should remind us of.

jmowreader

(50,567 posts)
15. Not really. The National Guard promotes differently than the active force
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:03 PM
Jun 2018

In the National Guard, you can only get promoted if a slot in your new rank opens up.

He should be glad I'm not his company commander. I'd have called a special drill to drum this bastard out of the Guard - complete with real drums.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
8. I beg to differ with him. HE'S lucky he isn't executing anyone.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:18 PM
Jun 2018

There are grevious penalties for doing that.

Bettie

(16,132 posts)
9. What is funny (strange, not Ha Ha)
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:32 PM
Jun 2018

about this is that this morning, I was telling my husband that the 'no courts, no recourse' thing Agent Orange was twitting about is really only a small step from summary execution.

I hope this guy gets more punishment than a slap on the wrist and an admonition to not say that again on social media. (Which is what I expect him to get.)

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
11. I have to wonder how widespread these nazi leanings are in the military today
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jun 2018

Let's hope its a tiny minority of racists.

TeamPooka

(24,264 posts)
12. This is why we need a National Service Requirement for all citizens.
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:49 PM
Jun 2018

It keeps the military from being a total nazi/KKK cult.
it keeps pressure on our military leaders to not start optional wars because everyone child is in the military.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
13. I agree
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 01:58 PM
Jun 2018

And if you object to military service, you could go the Peace Corp or Vista if the republicans haven't destroyed those programs yet.

This country was never meant to have the vast standing military forces we have today.

That's for empires not liberal democracies IMO.

Amishman

(5,559 posts)
14. Probably more common than we'd like. Overall the military has a strong right slant
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 02:00 PM
Jun 2018

Especially at the enlisted level.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,927 posts)
26. NCO's are hard right
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jun 2018

Officers arent much better, especially in the O3-O5 range. I have a over 100 active and retired military, mainly army, friends on Facebook, most of whom I had served with or met through it. While I have not seen anything posted as direct as this Guardsman posted, I do see a lot of hints and joking, stuff right up to the line, posted often, from many.

It should be noted that the sense of humor amongst the military, especially those in combat units, can be pretty fucked up, but shouldn't be taken too seriously.

struggle4progress

(118,379 posts)
18. He may want to review the law on executing people without a trial
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 07:59 PM
Jun 2018

It's widely frowned upon and can in fact be regarded as murder

Cha

(297,813 posts)
24. FU NG Oregon.. hope you
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:38 PM
Jun 2018

get justifiably punished for your stupid vicious spew. You were brought up to hate or you just learned it on your own.

Oakenshield

(614 posts)
27. I know some here have a dim view of our military....
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 01:15 PM
Jun 2018

I know some have a dim view of our military but the disgusting conduct of this guardsman don’t reflect the armed services in any way. We have a zero tolerance policy for discrimination, and I have no doubt in my mind he will have the book slammed over his empty head for posting such contemptible shit.

GoCubsGo

(32,097 posts)
28. Spoken like a true Nazi stormtrooper.
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 01:20 PM
Jun 2018

He may consider that fund "a waste of money." Any good, decent person considers him a waste of human flesh.

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