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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPeople, it does not matter if they impeach trump.
I don`t post much but I read a lot of what is posted . If Trump goes down in the Mueller investigation, we get saddled with the plastic banana Pence. Just like Nixon when he was impeached. If we fail to get congress back and the senate, it`s game over no matter what happens to Trump due to the investigation.
If they get the courts, governorship's and more gerrymandering we will never recover. They are going for the throat and total and complete control for years. We have 4 months left until what I think is the most critical election ever for the democrats. Flame me if you want but we will be forced to live the way they want us to if we loose. Think about it before it`s to late and we wake up on Nov. 7th kissing the asses of the republicans. Think it can`t happen?
leftstreet
(36,117 posts)I see no members here advocating not to vote
As bad as Pence is, he does not have the cult following that Donnie had, and would be easier to deal with. We take down one fascist at a time.
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)Mueller.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)VOTE!!!
Trek4Truth
(515 posts)Clarity2
(1,009 posts)Ill take Pence over Trump thank you. He may be a rightwing religious ideologue who will do damage, but trump is an unhinged criminal. We have a money laundering traitorous mobster in the house.
I was watching c-span last nite, just caught a brief moment of it, and it was mentioned that Pence talks to Joe Biden a lot. That gave me a tiny bit of reassurance. Now he may be chatting him up for VP to former VP advice, but I have to think theres a little bit of influence rubbing off. Maybe.
WA-03 Democrat
(3,056 posts)By Manafort for Pence. Mike just doesnt go around rubbing his links to Russia in our noses. Unlike tRumpolini he has a filter before he speaks.
Pences brother was part of Cummings, which is a large industrial company owner by Russian oligarchs.
Pence will not stop our invasion of Putin.
Vote Democrat!
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)My hope is that Mueller gets the both of them out of office if he finds Pence is complicit or corrupt. My reality says it might not happen, and my hope is that Pence doesn't have the spine to overtly sell out the u.s. to the russians the way Trump has. At least, not as FAST. And he doesn't have the balls to plow over rule of law when there is pushback by the people and Congress. Another interesting tidbit about Pence: they say he was raised in an abusive, authoritarian household, and the thought is that's why he bows to Trump. That kind of chaos is his norm.
Of course I will be voting Democratic all the way & voting in every single election!
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Otherwise he's a more clever, subtle, religiously fanatical, and diabolical version of Trump.
Clarity2
(1,009 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)But at this point I think we are better off with him impeached at the least. Pence would be weakened assuming we win 2018. That is crucial.
standingtall
(2,787 posts)There is no way Trump is getting impeached without Democrats at least taking back congress and it does matter if Trump is impeached. Signaling that we are going to be to cowardly to impeach Trump if significant crimes are uncovered after the if investigation only helps republicans in the present and encourages further cheating in future elections.
cpamomfromtexas
(1,247 posts)Then WE can all party.
VOX
(22,976 posts)You say you read a lot here, but there are dozens of posts every day on DU about the critical importance of the upcoming elections.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)That said, your thoughts on impeachment itself are void of any real context. It's as if impeachment isn't understood in any way.
If you are a reader as you state, you would know we are deeply concerned about the upcoming elections.