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Solomon

(12,310 posts)
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:45 PM Jun 2018

Well, We Still Have One Ace in the Hole

You just know that some serious abuses have occurred with those separated children. You know it.

Americans have never been able detain and incarcerate groups of people without abusing them in shocking ways. Never.

I can't wait until that all gets exposed.

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Well, We Still Have One Ace in the Hole (Original Post) Solomon Jun 2018 OP
Odds are also that some dropped dead from neglected health issues. FSogol Jun 2018 #1
They'll blame a few bad apples and carry on like it's an aberration. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #2
We do have something to win lunatica Jun 2018 #4
Oh, I'll continue to condemn - my remark was a condemnation, btw Solly Mack Jun 2018 #7
I know. Do you know mine is too? lunatica Jun 2018 #8
No other way to be. Not for me. Solly Mack Jun 2018 #10
We need Avenatti, GOFundmes, whatever it takes to get massive videos smuggled out of baby jails. lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #3
Never a good idea to start counting on atrocities as your ace in the hole. NT enough Jun 2018 #5
Whatever. It needs to be exposed. Solomon Jun 2018 #13
Of course there are injuries, disease and death.... FarPoint Jun 2018 #6
I'm sure the Republicans will be concerned and maybe even troubled. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2018 #9
Combine that with a stat the R's are throwing around.. lame54 Jun 2018 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #12
Go ahead and try to twist it. Solomon Jun 2018 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #17
That's not exactly an ace... JHB Jun 2018 #14
The idea that abused kids are somehow a political "ace in the hole" sickens me. MadDAsHell Jun 2018 #16
You're absolutely right lunatica Jun 2018 #18
How are abused children an "ace in the hole"? MontanaMama Jun 2018 #19
wth ace in the hole elehhhhna Jun 2018 #20
Thanks. MontanaMama Jun 2018 #21
Didn't work tho. Borderline comment I guess... elehhhhna Jun 2018 #23
WTF are we becoming? pintobean Jun 2018 #22
America's history is unfortunately one of detaining and incarcerating groups of people. Orsino Jun 2018 #24
Our real "Ace in the Hole" is that there are way more of us than there are of them. GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #25
We know for certain Clarity2 Jun 2018 #26

FSogol

(45,481 posts)
1. Odds are also that some dropped dead from neglected health issues.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:46 PM
Jun 2018

It might take a while, but that will all come out one day.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
2. They'll blame a few bad apples and carry on like it's an aberration.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:47 PM
Jun 2018

Been there, done that.

All we got was free range war criminals.

Not even a t-shirt.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
4. We do have something to win
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:53 PM
Jun 2018

or lose. We have our voice. Our condemnation. All of which will be on the right side of history.

If that’s all I get then I’m grateful to have it.

Sometimes the losing side is the right side.

FarPoint

(12,351 posts)
6. Of course there are injuries, disease and death....
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:57 PM
Jun 2018

All that will be kept secret.. Realize.. immunization is not always accessible in South America in gangster areas.. think about it. Plus, TB

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
9. I'm sure the Republicans will be concerned and maybe even troubled.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:00 PM
Jun 2018

Will they do anything to rein in their corpulent king?


Nah....

lame54

(35,287 posts)
11. Combine that with a stat the R's are throwing around..
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:01 PM
Jun 2018

That says that 52% of Ice Agents are Hispanic
They have their scapegoats

Response to Solomon (Original post)

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
15. Go ahead and try to twist it.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:05 PM
Jun 2018

I get sick thinking about it. It needs to be exposed. It pisses me off and it ought to piss off everyone.

Response to Solomon (Reply #15)

JHB

(37,159 posts)
14. That's not exactly an ace...
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:02 PM
Jun 2018

Inevitable, and the inevitable product of those inclined to such monstrosities, but I have no definition of "ace in the hole" that allows me to put it in that category.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
16. The idea that abused kids are somehow a political "ace in the hole" sickens me.
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:10 PM
Jun 2018

Excuse me while I vomit.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
18. You're absolutely right
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:26 PM
Jun 2018

This is something that should go down in history. At the very least historians should know about this when they write about it.

MontanaMama

(23,313 posts)
19. How are abused children an "ace in the hole"?
Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:30 PM
Jun 2018

If that is happening, how in the world is that a win for anyone? Please explain this because your statement is upsetting to say the least. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
24. America's history is unfortunately one of detaining and incarcerating groups of people.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:10 PM
Jun 2018

When we're not actually killing them.

While it's heartening to see so much outrage over the recently separated children, it doesn't seem to extend to others facing similar imprisonment.

If there's any hope for change, it lies on a path beginning with exposure--but that will be a long slog.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
25. Our real "Ace in the Hole" is that there are way more of us than there are of them.
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:13 PM
Jun 2018

But, that card is useless if we don't mobilize, and if we don't vote in overwhelming numbers against them in November.

Clarity2

(1,009 posts)
26. We know for certain
Thu Jun 28, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jun 2018

that at least one particular detainee center was plying kids with multiple drugs, so yeah, there is confirmed abuse.

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