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Thu Jun 28, 2018, 12:48 AM

Soledad O'Brien finishes Bernie's sentence


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Reply Soledad O'Brien finishes Bernie's sentence (Original post)
EffieBlack Jun 2018 OP
Poiuyt Jun 2018 #1
Adrahil Jun 2018 #8
awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #2
stonecutter357 Jun 2018 #3
Cha Jun 2018 #4
emulatorloo Jun 2018 #6
Cha Jun 2018 #7
JHan Jun 2018 #13
Cha Jun 2018 #14
NurseJackie Jun 2018 #18
Cha Jun 2018 #19
NurseJackie Jun 2018 #21
Cha Jun 2018 #22
trueblue2007 Jun 2018 #5
BlueSea Jun 2018 #9
trueblue2007 Jun 2018 #15
C Moon Jun 2018 #10
Hekate Jun 2018 #11
JHan Jun 2018 #12
Voltaire2 Jun 2018 #16
JCanete Jun 2018 #17
Cha Jun 2018 #20

Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 12:51 AM

1. There are no moral victories in elections

You win or you lose.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 01:41 AM

8. Exactly. Too many forget or don't understand this. NT

 

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 12:57 AM

2. Funny.

Prepare for the onslaught from the candidate before country crowd in 5....4....3....2.....1

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 01:02 AM

3. wow

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 01:05 AM

4. Yeah, WE LOST in some really Big Ways, BS..



Mahalo for Soledad, Effie

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 01:28 AM

6. Lol at those two tweets! n/t

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 01:38 AM

7. I wish it were hyperbole, emulatorloo..

a today

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:18 AM

13. rofl

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Response to JHan (Reply #13)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:21 AM

14. True

JHan

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Response to Cha (Reply #4)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 06:43 AM

18. Those are perfect! Mahalo for sharing them, Cha!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #18)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 06:52 AM

19. I know right, Jackie.. and they wouldn't be

so riveting if they weren't dead on. I'm wondering if he even has a clue what getting trump rigged in has unleashed on the World. His political wins are nothing compared to the ungodly vengeance Fraud is raining down on the world.

Thanks to Soledad for finishing that sentence for him

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Response to Cha (Reply #19)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:14 AM

21. It all sounds like fundraising "happy talk" to me...

I'm wondering if he even has a clue what getting trump rigged in has unleashed on the World.
It all sounds like fundraising "happy talk" to me! As with everything else he promises, it's all a fantasy.

His political wins are nothing compared to the ungodly vengeance Fraud is raining down on the world.
Again, more fantasy. Many seem to think that a change in an single area's local demographics is the same thing as a "groundswell" or "seismic shift" in the national political scene.

I've even read the comments of one person online who thinks a Vermont-style politician can win a statewide race in West Virginia. How stupid! It's a total fantasy. Completely ignorant of reality.

All I'm trying to say is that it serves no good or useful purpose for anyone to try and characterize an actual loss as a "win" ... nor does it help to pretend that a local win means more than it does.

There is no "revolution" when people willingly give power to the GOP in order to "send-a-message".

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #21)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:40 AM

22. I saw that.. smh.. Nate Silver agrees with us..

Nate Silver's take on Ocasio-Cortez's victory.

Looks like soon we’re wrapping up for the evening, so I’d like to reiterate one last time the not-so-hot take that primaries are extremely idiosyncratic and one ought to be cautious about global conclusions from local events. On the one hand, Ocasio-Cortez’s win was extremely impressive in New York 14 tonight against the establishment Democrat Joe Crowley; on the other hand, Chelsea Manning received only 6 percent of the vote in her challenge to establishment Democrat Ben Cardin in Maryland’s U.S. Senate primary. (Cardin won with 81 percent.)

I think pundits might do better to focus on the particular combination of attributes that Ocasio-Cortez brought to the table: young, Latina, from the community, media-savvy enough to draw a lot of coverage from lefty outlets (but not very much from mainstream outlets, which she may not have wanted anyway), ran some good ads, very openly and proudly a progressive Democratic socialist, but also running against an old white dude who, while mostly a party-line Democrat, was asleep at the wheel in a district that had undergone a lot of demographic change. And the race was maybe in an in-between zone whereas it was just competitive enough that her voters were excited and turned out, but also enough to the periphery of the radar enough that Crowley’s voters didn’t.

Which of those elements were most essential to her success? Which of those factors might be replicated elsewhere? It’s hard to say. My personal bias is to think being cut from the cloth of the district is pretty important, whereas candidates who are famous for other reasons, such as Cynthia Nixon (who hasn’t made up her deficit with Andrew Cuomo in the polls) aren’t going to resonate in the same way and won’t have the same underdog quality. But maybe the combination is pretty unique — and will be hard to replicate — given that she’s the first challenger to defeat a Democratic incumbent for the U.S. House since 2014.


https://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/june-26-election-results/

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210793760

Latino shift in the demographics helped her a lot. We'll see how trendy this is.


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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 01:22 AM

5. we won the election??? Was that in the Twilight Zone Bernie.

what in the hell is he talking about?

WE LOST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:04 AM

9. Hey Bernie, go have a beer with Jill Stein the shut the fuck up.

 

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Response to BlueSea (Reply #9)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:31 AM

15. i was just gonna say that

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:11 AM

10. Strange thing to say!

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:13 AM

11. He is going to end up as a parody of himself, writing one-liners & sketches for Larry David. nt

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:18 AM

12. loooooooooooooooooooool

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 03:49 AM

16. I've read the same claims here repeatedly.

That because we won the popular vote we in some sense had some sort of “win”.

So like wtf?

By the I disagree no matter who is saying it. We lost, and that loss was a disaster.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 05:24 AM

17. so what, she said something snarky. Sanders, who certainly couldn't have expected the

 


success he had, ran with the purpose of pulling the party and its leadership to the left. In that capacity, he appears to have had an impact. Idealistic progressive ideas(which are not un-pragmatic) are being championed by main-stream candidates. It was obvious what he was talking about. Soledad was trying to make what point that we don't already know?

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu Jun 28, 2018, 07:00 AM

20. Good on Soledad O'Brien finishing BS' sentence for him..

he should have talked about it himself.. instead he was being the civility police by supporting SHS and not having a clue why Stephanie Wilkinson asked her to leave her restaurant.

"Bernie Sanders Defends Sarah Sanders: People Have a Right To Go to a Restaurant for Dinner"

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On MSNBC on Wednesday, former democrat presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders defended White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on the currently dominant political topic of civility in politics.

“Look, as I’ve said before, yeah, I think people have the right to go into a restaurant and have dinner,” said Sanders (Bernie) about Saunders (Sarah) being kicked out of a restaurant with her family over political differences.

Host Kristen Welker was asking the Vermont senator about the lack of civility in general at first, and he said he’s “not a great fan of shouting down people or being rude to people,” but that people have a right to be angry.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/bernie-sanders-defends-sarah-sanders-people-have-a-right-to-go-to-a-restaurant-for-dinner/

Only it wasn't over "political differences" as BS asserts.








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