Should the GOP actually WANT to delay SCOTUS hearings until after the election?

[Takket]

Wouldn’t it vastly improve their turnout in November if they say “we want to hear from the people first”? They could retain both or one house by using SCOTUS to keep a few seats red that might have gone blue.

And even if they still lose both houses... so what? The lame duck Senate can still ram through drumpf’s pick anyway.

[onecaliberal]

1. Repukes will win this round. We need to settle in and prepare for the war.

[radius777]

2. Agree, should've gone w/Mueller angle.

ie, that 'we can't allow a potentially illegitimate president, who may be impeached, whose campaign is under investigation for collusion w/a foreign power to appoint anyone to SCOTUS, and we must wait for Mueller's investigation to conclude.'

The whole 'wait for the voters to decide' thing is lame and could back fire, as unfortunately conservative voters seem more motivated to vote on the SCOTUS issue than liberal/Dem voters are, and as it is we have low odds of retaking the Senate.

then if GOP agrees to wait and does better than expected (ie they retain the Senate and lose less than expected in the House), we're truly fucked and Trump will put up an even farther right justice.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Absolutely ! Your first paragraph spot on. That's what worries me about

our side - if there are savvy people fully analyzing the pros and cons it isn't apparent to me. But, with every good point, like yours, there's an opposite to it - that support for the Mueller probe is waning.

This whole thing is a chess match. Unfortunately, Dems may be in a better position by the numbers to stop a nutcase appointment now vs. after next year given so many Dem senators up for reelection. But, you can't really count on everyone on our side to vote nay. But - so we stop them before Nov - it would happen next year anyway.

The only way to figure it out is to make a list of all the pros and cons

[radius777]

8. Mueller's investigation has already found

some level of collusion (Flynn, Manafort), then you have the Cohen situation.

There's enough 'smoke' to this thing, and Dems from the beginning should've been pounding the 'illegitimate/stolen election' angle in order to paralyze Trump/GOP and prevent them from doing anything.

Dems rolled over and now Trump is about to appoint two justices in less than two years...

...because ultimately politics is much more about the court of public opinion that legalistic or parlimentary x's and o's... Dems don't seem to get this and Trump does.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

9. True - but - we have a vast group of people that hear zero news - just propaganda.

If everyone heard as much as we have/know - he'd be close to zero popularity. That is what is so tremendously frustrating.

[lame54]

3. SC pick is the ultimate prize...

they will not let it go w/o a fight

[regnaD kciN]

4. Not if they think the choice will be unpopular...

If they're convinced most Americans oppose the Trump/Heritage nominee, delaying the election will only encourage people to come out and vote for Democrats in November, possibly costing them the Senate (and a few of their own jobs). Better, from their point of view, to ram it through now; even if people are angry about it, no vote they can cast this autumn will be able to change it, and they will figure that Democratic turnout will be depressed by people figuring "what's the use?"

[EndGOPPropaganda]

5. Nah they want confirmation vote right BEFORE the election

That way they can use it to rile up the base.
And still have their pro-billionaire judge in place before he election.

[Orsino]

6. Men this close to orgasm are not noted for their patience.

This is a grab for power, not for approval. They are going to steal everything they can before Dems can take over, so that the Dems have to spend the entire next swing of the pendulum fighting to undo some of what the Republican Party has done.