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babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 02:47 PM Jul 2018

Bush Ethics Lawyer Richard Painter Calls For Investigation If Kennedy Was Paid To Resign

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/02/bush-ethics-lawyer-richard-painter-calls-for-investigation-if-kennedy-was-paid-to-resign.html


Posted on Mon, Jul 2nd, 2018 by Leo Vidal
Bush Ethics Lawyer Richard Painter Calls For Investigation If Kennedy Was Paid To Resign


Richard Painter, the former White House Ethics Attorney for President George W. Bush, has come up with a way to delay hearings for a new Supreme Court justice to replace retiring Justice Anthony Kennedy. According to Painter, there should be no hearings on a replacement for Kennedy until there is a full and complete investigation into the circumstances surrounding Kennedy’s resignation.

In other words, if Kennedy was paid or bought off in some way by Trump or his family, then the American people need to know about it.
After Kennedy’s unexpected retirement announcement several stories appeared in the media claiming financial ties between Kennedy and his two sons and Trump and his family. Some people speculated that Kennedy was bought off in some way due to these extensive and longstanding financial connections.

Late last week Painter tweeted his novel theory for why Senate hearings for Kennedy’s replacement should be delayed:

“The circumstances of Justice Kennedy’s resignation must be investigated by the Senate Judiciary Committee before any replacement is considered. The Constitution does not give Trump the power to use underhanded means to induce Supreme Court resignations.”




As Painter points out it would be both unethical and unconstitutional for a president to “induce Supreme Court resignations” by using financial remuneration of some kind.

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https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/02/bush-ethics-lawyer-richard-painter-calls-for-investigation-if-kennedy-was-paid-to-resign.html
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Bush Ethics Lawyer Richard Painter Calls For Investigation If Kennedy Was Paid To Resign (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2018 OP
I bet it went through his son's bank so it can't be traced. redstatebluegirl Jul 2018 #1
Oops - that probably makes it more traceable. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #5
That would dumb actually it's first place people would look and big banks track mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #7
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTT ... You know these are Republicans you're asking to 'do the right mr_lebowski Jul 2018 #2
We speak out all the time on DU... lame54 Jul 2018 #4
The payoff might not be $ FakeNoose Jul 2018 #3
might be Roubles. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #6
THAT makes sense get the red out Jul 2018 #9
Hey, Anthony I was just looking Mr.Bill Jul 2018 #11
Somebody better investigate soon Achilleaze Jul 2018 #8
He makes a good point. geardaddy Jul 2018 #10
So the theory is the Kennedy's kid gave Trump's kid money mythology Jul 2018 #12
No. Theories include Trump gave Justin Kennedy a kickback. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #17
Agree with investigation, but doubt Kennedy's son dealing with trump before 2009 leads anywhere. Hoyt Jul 2018 #13
"The Constitution does not give Trump the power to use underhanded means to induce... Different Drummer Jul 2018 #14
we're never going to be 'done' investigating this admin if they dont stop the corruption TalenaGor Jul 2018 #15
When you're 79 you probably do what your kid says, gibraltar72 Jul 2018 #16
Novel idea? No - it should be done KT2000 Jul 2018 #18
IF true... then we have another distinguished career taken down by association with Trump. Marie Marie Jul 2018 #19
This has corruption written all over it matt819 Jul 2018 #20
Scream it Painter! triron Jul 2018 #21
Do you really think McConnell would allow that to happen? madinmaryland Jul 2018 #22
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2018 #23
Painter knows they are all crooks! BlueJac Jul 2018 #24
An emolument doesn't have to be a financial payment. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #25
I've been wondering whether Trump et alia "persuaded" Kennedy lapucelle Jul 2018 #26
That definitely could happen, coersion, blackmail. It would be exactly what Trump would do. n/t Judi Lynn Jul 2018 #27
Kick dalton99a Jul 2018 #28
IF we were smart, we'd push this idea. Kinda like THEY did with Hillary's emails and Benghazi. Tatiana Jul 2018 #29
And it would have the added benefit babylonsister Jul 2018 #30
Exactly. I'm going to write Durbin's office to suggest this. Tatiana Jul 2018 #31
I doubt there was any "PAYOFF". All the justices KNOW how bad that is. napi21 Jul 2018 #32
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. That would dumb actually it's first place people would look and big banks track
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 02:58 PM
Jul 2018

every cent.

I'd be thinking more like Cayman Islands ...

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTTT ... You know these are Republicans you're asking to 'do the right
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 02:52 PM
Jul 2018

thing', right Richard?

I mean, I agree whole-heartedly, but you ain't gonna shame the Pubbies into doing SHIT.

If journo's come up with more, and it has to be SOLID ... enough for the FBI to get involved despite the political danger to them doing so ... then MAAAAAYBE.

lame54

(35,310 posts)
4. We speak out all the time on DU...
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jul 2018

often it doesn't add up to anything - but it has to be said

Good for him

FakeNoose

(32,703 posts)
3. The payoff might not be $
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jul 2018

... it might be a promise to keep hands off the son, or something similar.

I don't have any insider's info, all I know is what I read on DU.


get the red out

(13,468 posts)
9. THAT makes sense
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 03:39 PM
Jul 2018

Working for a money laundering bank, Trump may well not be the only crook he has helped get "financing".

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
12. So the theory is the Kennedy's kid gave Trump's kid money
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:06 PM
Jul 2018

As a payoff to Kennedy? Isn't that backwards?

SunSeeker

(51,620 posts)
17. No. Theories include Trump gave Justin Kennedy a kickback.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:26 PM
Jul 2018

And promises to Kennedy that his son will be well taken care of.

Maybe Kennedy wants Trump to appoint a scumbag like Cavanaugh who will hold a President can pardon anyone, including himself. That way his son Justin, who works for a notorious money laundering bank and who personally resided over giving Trump $1 Billion, will be protected from going to jail with Trump. That way Kennedy does not get his own hands dirty. And Kennedy would most certainly have to recuse himself if his son had a case for him.

Different Drummer

(7,628 posts)
14. "The Constitution does not give Trump the power to use underhanded means to induce...
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:10 PM
Jul 2018

Supreme Court resignations."

Why do I get the feeling Trump doesn't care what the Constitution doesn't give him the power to do?

gibraltar72

(7,508 posts)
16. When you're 79 you probably do what your kid says,
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:13 PM
Jul 2018

except willingly give him the car keys. Doosh Bank pops up all too often in Trump world. I doubt cash involved. Favors I'm certain are involved.

KT2000

(20,585 posts)
18. Novel idea? No - it should be done
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:37 PM
Jul 2018

The Judicial is separate from the Executive so why was trump meeting with Kennedy? What we know is that trump is dishonest, does not know the Constitution, and makes deals to serve himself. Whatever was involved, considering the close relationships, should be investigated.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
19. IF true... then we have another distinguished career taken down by association with Trump.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:41 PM
Jul 2018

Why does anybody involve themselves with this criminal?

matt819

(10,749 posts)
20. This has corruption written all over it
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 04:49 PM
Jul 2018

Also,

Investigate all of Kennedy's decisions since trump took office. Compare them to previous decisions over his tenure, especially during the time his son was trump's banker.

Investigate all money to Kennedy's son while he was trump's banker - not only salary but also bonuses and one-time payments.

Investigate all transfers from the son to the father, at least over the past 18 months, and probably before that as well.

Yeah, yeah, I know. He's 81 and it's time to retire. His wife has has issues, and he wants to spend time with her. That's fine as far as it goes, but it also provides wonderful cover for corruption.

This whole thing smells.

lapucelle

(18,297 posts)
26. I've been wondering whether Trump et alia "persuaded" Kennedy
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 06:51 PM
Jul 2018

to retire because they have compromising information about some of his son's banking deals.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
29. IF we were smart, we'd push this idea. Kinda like THEY did with Hillary's emails and Benghazi.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 07:22 PM
Jul 2018

Only this supposition is probably true.

babylonsister

(171,079 posts)
30. And it would have the added benefit
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 07:27 PM
Jul 2018

of wasting time so no hearings would take place. I don't see the Dems getting behind it though.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
31. Exactly. I'm going to write Durbin's office to suggest this.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 07:29 PM
Jul 2018

Sometimes the responses from his office offer an idea of what the 'official' leadership position will be.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
32. I doubt there was any "PAYOFF". All the justices KNOW how bad that is.
Mon Jul 2, 2018, 11:41 PM
Jul 2018

But I heard (somewhere???) that the powers that be did have at least one meeting with Kennedy asking him to consider retiring soon to insure the SCOTUS remains it's majority Republicans for several decades. As soon as I heard that story I believed it!! I don't think there's any way to prove it though. Especially if the Kennedy & Trump families have been social friends in the past. Even stupid people would have kept everything verbal; no phone calls, no meetings in the WH, or anyone's office, thus no tapes, no papers, no record!

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