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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't know whether to laugh or cry at this meme I saw on twitter:
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lunatica
(53,410 posts)madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)Complaining to me that Trump is an idiot and then tells me he voted for him. When I asked why he voted for him this was the answer: "I thought he was a good businessman. And I didn't like Hillary."
He couldn't tell me exactly what it was that he didn't like about Hillary.
The Genealogist
(4,723 posts)They just know the TeeVee and the AM radio told them they hate her, so they must. I say this a little facetiously, but honestly people sometimes just do what they're told.
catbyte
(34,376 posts)Bettie
(16,095 posts)was a vague feeling of unease she gave him.
Why? 25+ years of marketing, of propaganda carefully designed to make people internalize a feeling of distrust.
It had nothing to do with anything she had ever done with one exception: she frightened some people way back when she first came on the scene as the wife of Gov. Bill Clinton...someone who had power saw her as a threat and began working on tearing her down.
That's why she has been under investigation over and over for things that are not even marginally her fault, for made-up things.
That's why they paid huge sums of money to broadcast toxic RW talk radio on air to criticize her 24/7 (Rush Limbaugh anyone?).
And I guess they were right to be afraid: she still won. (I'll never accept that this was a legitimate election.)
JI7
(89,248 posts)And they are assholish types.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Good for you for following through and not just letting the vague statement stand. For everyone else, you don't have to adversarial, just inquisitive: "Oh, you didn't like Hillary. Why was that?" Probe a little deeper and see what's beneath the antipathy. In this case, apparently nothing; no deep thought went into it, it was just a feeling this person had, and he didn't know why.
MAYBE (maybemaybemaybe) it gets someone thinking instead of just absorbing.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I'd say ignore it.
BECAUSE --
Hillary didn't lose because she was less POPULAR. She lost because of James Comey's letters and because of some even more important factors -- more important because they're not going away. They will be used against us in every election going forward, unless we can stop them.
The big problems are voter suppression, Russian meddling, and targeted voter propaganda through Twitter, Google, Facebook, and other forms of social media. There is no question that the Trump campaign, through Cambridge Analytica, did this -- and that the Russians did this. The only question is how much they conspired together in the propaganda campaign.
We need to figure out how to defend the democratic process from fake news and micro-targeted AI propaganda -- or lose our democracy. https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029576691
Here is how they stole the election, well this and KGB operatives V Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922
Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824
Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/
23:00 6/25/2017
PALMER: Rigged election: Donald Trump won every surprise swing state by the same 1% margin
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/rigged-election-donald-trump-won-every-surprise-swing-state-by-the-same-1-margin/118/
The most commonly posited explanation of Donald Trumps shocking election victory was that every professional pollster in the nation despite each working independently and using differing methodologies somehow managed to overlook the same pockets of Trump voters in these states. If such pockets did exist, they would have existed in varying sizes in each of the four states, thus resulting in different sized wins in each.
Ask any statistician and theyll tell you that a reasonable distribution of the results would have been Trump winning one of the states by one percent, won one of them by perhaps three percent, won one of them by two percent, lost one of them by one percent, or something along those lines. But instead the voting tallies looked startlingly different from any natural distribution. In fact they looked startlingly the same.
According to the New York Times, the voting results broke down like this: Trump won Florida by just over one percent of the vote. He also won Pennsylvania by just over one percent. He won Michigan by just under one percent. And he won Wisconsin by precisely one percent. Thats not how numbers tend to work in the real world.
On its own, this kind of suspiciously consistent numerical dispersion across the four states that decided the election would be something that could be written off as a mere fluke. But when you put it within the context of the numerous other ways in which the voting tallies make no mathematical sense, it points to the numbers having been rigged or altered.
MikeFarb @mikefarb1
#unhackthevote
Did Trump win Michigan? I don' think so.
Won by 10,704 but wait
75,355 Ballots Thrown Out
87 Machines Broke Down in Detrioit
Link to tweet
Ron Baiman (Ph. D.): U.S. 2016 Unadjusted Exit Poll Discrepancies.... (Affadavit)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210343625
Updated, Expanded and Corrected Affidavit Version: U.S. 2016 Unadjusted Exit Poll Discrepancies Fit Chronic Republican Vote Count Rigging, not Random Statistical, Patterns https://www.researchgate.net/publication/319205877_Updated_Expanded_and_Corrected_Affidavit_Version_US_2016_Unadjusted_Exit_Poll_Discrepancies_Fit_Chronic_Republican_Vote_-_Count_Rigging_not_Random_Statistical_Patterns
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magicarpet
(14,145 posts).... in tossing Nixon from the White House. She did a lot of back ground legal research for the Senate committees.
The right-wing was determined to fuck up any chance she might have of ever occupying the Oval Office. They relentlessly and ruthlessly cast aspersions on any effort or move she made to work for social good in Washington DC. For decades upon decades the right wing hammered, demonized, and pulverized Hillary's best efforts. In consort with the Russians the American Fascist Party (GOP) succeeded in that hope to deny her of the White House.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)who at election time said "neither one is worth voting for" and she has two young daughters. So sad.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)After years of bashing and investigating, their RW heroes could not make any real charges stick to Hillary. We on the left, of course try to point out that the reason for that is that she didn't really do anything wrong. There's no there there. They, however, after decades of bad press perpetrated by the RW echo chamber are convinced that Hillary is a cross between Cruella DeVille and the evil queen in Snow White and they hate that Hillary is free while their own hero has to bear the slings and arrows due to his own indiscretions.