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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/megyn-kelly-agrees-trump-elizabeth-warren-take-dna-test-prove-native-american-heritage-191938577.htmlbitterross
(4,066 posts)Is she still on TV? Has a show? Has viewers?
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)Megyn and Donald should each take an IQ test to see if ANYTHING registers!
meadowlander
(4,395 posts)Warren should tell them to sit and swivel.
nolabear
(41,960 posts)I dont typically watch her but do watch Today sometimes and it came up while I was doing things. I was pissed enough about that part and then the discussion switched to his #MeToo snark and it devolved into how the movement has widened out so much its lost credibility. There was one woman and two men with her and I got the feeling the woman was uncomfortable with the men getting victimy over it.
JDC
(10,127 posts)She can go F right off back to irrelevancy. What a hack.
Siwsan
(26,260 posts)I know a whole lot of people who have been told they have a degree of Native American heritage. For some reason, most of them identify it as Cherokee. I used to think this a bit strange, and I wasn't alone. The late comedian Charlie Hill, who was Oneida-Mohawk-Cree, used to refer to them as 'Generokees'. Some may be proved out by DNA testing, some may not. So what.
My paternal grandmother's family has been here since the early 1700's. Who knows what might show up in my DNA. And I'm sure that goes for any of use whose families have been here for as long, or longer, than this land has been declared 'The United States'. It can be interesting, but does nothing to change who we are.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)I was told I had NA in me because I had dark hair and high cheekbones.
Would it show up in a DNA? Who knows.
But being told this was not uncommon. I certainly wouldnt be compelled to want to prove it to anyone.
Siwsan
(26,260 posts)I've always counted a number of Native Americans in my group of friends and acquaintances - Charlie Hill was one of them. Quite often, when we were at Pow Wows, I'd be the only Caucasian in the group. More than once, someone would let loose with a 'white joke' and when someone else would get that worried look, and try to quietly point me out, for fear I'd be offended, my friends would laugh. 'Oh, don't worry about her. She's tribal, too!' - referring to my Welsh heritage.
That was just more proof that what joins us as comrades is what's in our mind and heart - not our DNA.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)When Trump is bloviating about himself he creates villains where there arent any. He already knows his Pocahontas smear is a pre-set Pavlovian utterance that his rabble respond wildly to. His audience are trained to respond to these statements on cue.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)one way or another. A few things:
- Warren needs to not be on the defensive. She needs to go on the offensive with this topic.. She should simply dismiss it by saying "Hey, this is what I was told growing up, a lot of people were told that they were a certain ethnic mix growing up and turned out to be wrong. So what? It's not a big deal. More importantly, where are your tax returns?"
- Trump making fun of her by calling her Pocahontas is and should be insulting to Native Americans, because it is not meant in a flattering way.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)people claim Cherokee ancestry.
Most of them, if they get their DNA done, discover they don't have any noticeable Native American genes. I had a recent conversation with someone who supposedly had a great great grandmother who was Cherokee, and could not understand why it didn't show up
when he had his DNA done, as he was absolutely convinced the story was true.
My personal guess is that the claim of Indian ancestry is a way of explaining why someone in the family doesn't look much like the siblings.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)are accurate enough to pick up everyone who has 1/16 or 1/32 Native American Ancestry.
Also, different full siblings inherit different sets of DNA, obviously. So my brother tested for 8% Scandinavian and I had ZERO. And I had a trace amount of Native American (at a "low confidence" level) and he didn't. It was just a throw of the genetic dice. But we both have same ancestors. He just happened to inherit genes of some Scandinavian and I inherited more of other genes.
Plus, one of the most common haplotypes among NA's is also shared by people in Western Europe, so that would make the determination difficult.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,853 posts)when there's a large genetic mix on both sides.
And yes, it's always a throw of the genetic dice. I cannot convince a friend of mine to do his own DNA testing, because he assumes that results his brother got will be identical to his own. I probably ought to order a kit for him, since the cost is actually a bit of an issue for him.
PeacefulPeavey
(24 posts)The repugs claim Warren claimed minority status to gain an advantage when applying to Harvard and Penn state.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elizabeth-warren-wealthy-native-american/
bdamomma
(63,845 posts)Obsessed.
librechik
(30,674 posts)to prove she's human and not a cyborg Stepford Wife.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Many, many of us with families who have been here over 200-300 years have been told the same thing.
She was repeating family lore, and that is all.
Sometimes those stories are accurate and sometimes they are not
Over several generations here it is a strong possibility.
Trump is what? Second generation immigrant fond of immigrant wives?
He is mocking many of us really.
PCIntern
(25,541 posts)Trump not only denigrated her by referring to her bloody menstruating vagina but he would also say shes past her sell by date.
This is who shes defending. Once a Faux, always a a Faux.
Girard442
(6,070 posts)...when Trump agrees to a full psychological evauation -- by a team of real doctors.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)as proof of his beyond staggering wealth he claims to have.
We wanna know. Are you really THAT rich?? Or just all hat, no cattle???
TeamPooka
(24,223 posts)bdamomma
(63,845 posts)FOX.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Freethinker65
(10,017 posts)Trump's full complete verified medical records?
C_U_L8R
(45,001 posts)to prove he doesn't have a spongy syphillitic brain
JHB
(37,159 posts)Please remind me what she's done to deserve anyone caring.
Her years acting as a vandal to political discourse argue against paying her the slightest bit of attention. Or salary.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)who, after she was hung out to dry by the right wing, sexually degraded by a fat pig like roger ailes, still obediently defends the same men that used her, and still cries about why we do not, cannot, and will not accept her. This is PATHETIC, save that I do not waste pathos on fools, especially those that would gladly cheer and assist killing us.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)I hate Kelly by the way.
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)White people need to shut the fuck up about other peoples ethnicity and race. Megyn Kelly is educated enough to know the ugly history of white culture defining the racial content of other individuals in colonized, apartheid, and fascist regimes.
These people make me sick.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)I think Warren maybe do one too. Deal?
DinahMoeHum
(21,784 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)wishstar
(5,269 posts)They wouldn't accept Barack Obama's official short form BC or even the official statement from the Sec. of State of Hawaii, so I don't understand why anyone would ever expect that DNA test results reported by Warren would be accepted as legitimate proof. So it would be pointless.
gulliver
(13,180 posts)I wasn't impressed with her last tweet response to Trump. Yes, she did call him incompetent. That much is good. But bringing up the kids being "ripped" from their parents arms in that context wasn't great. I'm sure it actually made the Trump "audience" feel Trump won.
I would rather she had just defended herself. Something like, "I've been afraid to take the DNA test. What if I'm related to you @realDonaldTrump." Or, "Let's both do a 23andme and post it." Or, "You still haven't aswered Bill Maher's question about your own ancestry."
I don't know. I know there's a chance that ridiculing Trump gives up some dignity points...gets childish...whatever. I just feel like we should be doing it anyway, though.
radius777
(3,635 posts)like when the school bully disses another kid about his mother .. it's a test to see how/if the kid will respond.
Hillary really took him down in the debates, especially the first one.
She humiliated him about his fake wealth, his fake status, low intelligence etc.
That is the way to do it.
Attack him and change the frame so he's on the defensive.
Rubio's 'little hands' meme also worked .. it got into Trump's head and he kept talking about it for weeks.
Hekate
(90,674 posts)Note it and move on. Engaging the thought in any way, shape, or form only encourages it.
Everybody is entitled to their family stories from their childhoods. European Americans started coming to this continent 500 years ago, African Americans as well. Unless your family was a very recent arrival -- well, at this point we are all related.
spanone
(135,830 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)Clarity2
(1,009 posts)but it would not matter anyway. Anyone that has done a dna test knows that just because a parent is say italian, doesnt mean youll inherit that italian blood. And genetic influences get diluted with generations. Its all about the family tree, not the dna test!
Different Drummer
(7,614 posts)you can't take Fox out of the show hosts. Greta Van Susteren proved that on MSNBC and Megyn Kelly is further proving it on her NBC show.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)kskiska
(27,045 posts)used to say we were part Kickapoo Indian. We mostly accepted it, but she later admitted she made it all up. People say these sort of things in families. Big deal. At any rate, my DNA test showed no American Indian.