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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 09:51 AM Jul 2018

Warren is Preparing for 2020. So Are Biden, Booker, Harris and Sanders.

By Alexander Burns and Jonathan Martin
July 15, 2018

RENO, Nev. — During a campaign-style tour of the West late last month, Senator Elizabeth Warren did not announce she was running for president. But in private events and public speeches, her message about 2020 was as clear as it was rousing.

In Salt Lake City, Ms. Warren urged Democrats to turn out in force for the midterm elections to build momentum for the next presidential race, and in Denver, she told a meeting of state legislators and trial lawyers that she wanted to be a tribune for lower-income Americans, according to people who attended the events. And in a speech to the Nevada Democratic Party in Reno, Ms. Warren said Democrats must do more than “drive Donald Trump and his enablers out of power.”

“I want a party strong enough to take on the hard job of cleaning up the mess they’ll leave behind once they are gone,” Ms. Warren declared, all but volunteering for the task.

Before the trip and since, Ms. Warren and her emissaries have been reaching out to key Democratic officeholders in Iowa, Nevada and South Carolina — three states early in the presidential primary calendar — making introductions and offering help in the midterm campaign. Altogether, her moves are among the most assertive steps taken by any Democrat to prepare for 2020.

Ms. Warren, 69, now leads a small advance guard of Democrats who appear to be moving deliberately toward challenging President Trump. Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., wielding a political network cultivated over decades, has been reasserting himself as a party leader, while Senators Cory Booker of New Jersey and Kamala Harris of California have emerged as fresher-faced messengers for the midterms. And Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, the runner-up in the 2016 primaries, has been acting like a candidate as he considers another race.

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Warren is Preparing for 2020. So Are Biden, Booker, Harris and Sanders. (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2018 OP
I am more impressed with Cory Booker Chipper Chat Jul 2018 #1
He's not bad... I like his passion. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #11
Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertRat Jul 2018 #26
I like him a lot minus one or two differences KPN Jul 2018 #31
Sounds like a lot of good choices lining up NickB79 Jul 2018 #2
Sanders Booker and Harris LakeArenal Jul 2018 #3
Franken apologized for how he treated women mythology Jul 2018 #7
Mythology...literally and figuratively. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #10
Yup, yup, I hold Gilli primarily responsible. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #13
Well you certainly wouldn't ever hold Bernie responsible, so I can understand you primarily blaming MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #23
No, Bernie had a small role to play by jumping on the bandwagon... not happy about it either. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #40
Um, Sanders is the first one mentioned. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #46
The feeling for Gilli that a lot of folks have is ridiculous. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #50
Always a good sign for open dialog is throwing out the word ridiculous LakeArenal Jul 2018 #53
Lolololol. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #60
Ridicule. Nice. Keep laughing. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #61
Personal attacks. Nice. Keep doing you. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #62
You are resorting to snarky. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #63
You are resorting to personal attacks. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #64
I can have an opinion of you. It's not being a bully. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #65
You don't have an "option" of me. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #66
Ridicule of a typo. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #67
#facknews ! stonecutter357 Jul 2018 #14
That is a misinterpretation of what he said. Crunchy Frog Jul 2018 #32
A convenient misinterpretation. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #47
A very willful misinterpretation emulatorloo Jul 2018 #54
I'll support the Dem candidate 100% in the General. MoonRiver Jul 2018 #9
Same here. I just want the right candidate. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #12
Agreed. MoonRiver Jul 2018 #15
Honestly, as far as Gillibrand goes, the Franken thing is the least of it... vi5 Jul 2018 #39
Oh I believe it. Political opportunist LakeArenal Jul 2018 #43
TAMMY DUCKWORTH! Squinch Jul 2018 #4
" " " " n/t MBS Jul 2018 #42
I keep hearing "Dems have no one " mountain grammy Jul 2018 #5
We need a winner, that's for sure... they all fit the bill. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2018 #16
My good friend told me Trump might win Capperdan Jul 2018 #6
I would give him a four out of ten shot. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #18
DU will be a fun place in the lead up to 2020 oberliner Jul 2018 #8
Hope admins will shut down the rightwing sources, cartoons, memes and slobbering over Joe DiGenova emulatorloo Jul 2018 #56
Adam Schiff would do a great job IMO...n/t monmouth4 Jul 2018 #17
Let's get through 2018 first. Golden Raisin Jul 2018 #19
Exactly. Thank you. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #24
YES, please! MBS Jul 2018 #44
What Warren DID announce was that she would serve her full Senate term..... brooklynite Jul 2018 #20
I like the junior senator from the Garden state followed by the former vice president... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #21
Me too... Zoonart Jul 2018 #34
Booker could have done anything he wanted with his newly minted J.D. from Yale DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #36
I'm 78. IMHO Sanders, Biden, Warren are too old bobbieinok Jul 2018 #22
I agree ghostsinthemachine Jul 2018 #27
I'm 83 and agree. Sanders, Biden & Warren are too old. Thirties Child Jul 2018 #28
Please - No Warren, no Sanders, no Biden TheCowsCameHome Jul 2018 #29
Agreed. n/t MBS Jul 2018 #45
All are good, but the best speaker of the bunch Qutzupalotl Jul 2018 #30
Good people all, but none would be my first choice Persondem Jul 2018 #33
I'd throw in Jeff Merkley MurrayDelph Jul 2018 #35
I like him, too. potone Jul 2018 #57
My first choice would be Al Franken, TheCowsCameHome Jul 2018 #37
Yes. And that's why he's gone. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #48
Sanders and Biden are definitely too old. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #38
I would love to see a Harris/Booker ticket. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #41
Not me. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #49
Lol. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #51
I wish Adam Schiff would run!!! ananda Jul 2018 #52
Good Choice, post it after Nov and a lot of us may just be on board with that. LakeArenal Jul 2018 #55
Post removed Post removed Jul 2018 #58
whoever can win AlexSFCA Jul 2018 #59
We need to survive midterms....period! Heartstrings Jul 2018 #68

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KPN

(15,670 posts)
31. I like him a lot minus one or two differences
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:56 AM
Jul 2018

but I don’t see him carrying the nation. Maybe I’m wrong. We’ll see. I do think he’ll help our party overall with his presence in the primary.

LakeArenal

(28,863 posts)
3. Sanders Booker and Harris
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:15 AM
Jul 2018

All on the Franken Railroad.

Just reminding. So Gilli lovers can’t say it’s only her.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
7. Franken apologized for how he treated women
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:26 AM
Jul 2018

8 different women from different times and different places had stories. He didn't get railroaded.

LakeArenal

(28,863 posts)
10. Mythology...literally and figuratively.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:30 AM
Jul 2018

Franken asked for due process.

Gilli later suggested due process for others but not Franken.

That’s history.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
23. Well you certainly wouldn't ever hold Bernie responsible, so I can understand you primarily blaming
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:27 AM
Jul 2018

Gillibrand.

LakeArenal

(28,863 posts)
46. Um, Sanders is the first one mentioned.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jul 2018

And InABL was agreeing but just adding the feeling for Gilli that a lot of folks have.

You don’t agree. So be it.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
50. The feeling for Gilli that a lot of folks have is ridiculous.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jul 2018

As is the minimizing the roll of Bernie and the other 36 politicians who signed on.

If the argument is that she made them do it, well then what does that say for their leadership abilities?




LakeArenal

(28,863 posts)
53. Always a good sign for open dialog is throwing out the word ridiculous
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:06 PM
Jul 2018

Nobody is saying she made anybody do anything. That's the point of not always blaming Gilli.

Nobody is suggesting you shouldn't support whomever you want. As can the rest of us. Calling our opinion ridiculous is not really going to change anyone's opinion. Just the opinion of you.

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)
60. Lolololol.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:43 PM
Jul 2018

"Just the opinion of you."



I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion, but thank you for the laughs.





LakeArenal

(28,863 posts)
65. I can have an opinion of you. It's not being a bully.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:54 PM
Jul 2018

You are the name calling ridiculer. If you want to continue all night, I will. But don’t you have better things to do. I really do. But you seem upset. And we wouldn’t want that.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
9. I'll support the Dem candidate 100% in the General.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:29 AM
Jul 2018

What happened to Franken will factor in, big time, regarding who I support in the Primary.

LakeArenal

(28,863 posts)
12. Same here. I just want the right candidate.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:32 AM
Jul 2018

Right now it’s not any of those who signed that letter.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
39. Honestly, as far as Gillibrand goes, the Franken thing is the least of it...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jul 2018

.....but that shouldn't have been surprising to anyone who has known the Blue Dog Gillibrand for years and watched her do and say whatever is expedient to her own career.

And obviously LOTS of politicians do this so there are instances of that in everyone's closet as far as the political game goes. But she has always been way more craven than most when that is concerned.

Her former blue dog status should be more of a deal breaker than anything.

LakeArenal

(28,863 posts)
43. Oh I believe it. Political opportunist
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jul 2018

Which is fine. But don’t cry when folks call you out if you grab an opportunity that turns out to be unpopular.

Capperdan

(492 posts)
6. My good friend told me Trump might win
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:26 AM
Jul 2018

Yesterday, after all the Russian indictments, he says, doesn't matter, he still might win.

emulatorloo

(44,245 posts)
56. Hope admins will shut down the rightwing sources, cartoons, memes and slobbering over Joe DiGenova
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jul 2018

this time.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
21. I like the junior senator from the Garden state followed by the former vice president...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 10:49 AM
Jul 2018

I like the junior senator from the Garden state, followed by the former vice president, followed by the former governor from Massachusetts. followed by the junior senator from the Golden State.

Zoonart

(11,890 posts)
34. Me too...
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:00 PM
Jul 2018

I have followed Corey Booker's careeer since he was mayor of Newark and he is Superman.
Love Uncle Joe too. I think we need someone who knows how the ENTIRE government functions...every department...on granular level, because it will be a smoking crater by 2020.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
36. Booker could have done anything he wanted with his newly minted J.D. from Yale
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jul 2018

He chose to live in a tenement and be mayor of Newark.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
22. I'm 78. IMHO Sanders, Biden, Warren are too old
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:19 AM
Jul 2018

The campaign itself, if done well, is very physically taxing.

Actually doing the job of being president (unlike 45, who just plays president on tv) is even more so.

ghostsinthemachine

(3,569 posts)
27. I agree
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:50 AM
Jul 2018

The Orange shitgibbon is too old as well. Id really like someone younger, more vital than TRump. Someone he cant mock about age as he did with HRC.

Biden would not let him do that, he can give it too, but his age is a HUGE drawback for me.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)
29. Please - No Warren, no Sanders, no Biden
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:54 AM
Jul 2018

Warren is much more effective in the Senate, (picture her as majority leader ) and the other two are much too old.

Time for some new blood in this party.

Qutzupalotl

(14,340 posts)
30. All are good, but the best speaker of the bunch
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 11:56 AM
Jul 2018

and the clearest framer of the issues and their solutions is Elizabeth Warren. Biden’s candid nature of speaking makes him a close second.

We need someone in the #1 or #2 spot who can frame pocketbook issues in a way that makes people realize they’ve been robbed for decades.

Moral outrage is contagious.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
33. Good people all, but none would be my first choice
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:00 PM
Jul 2018

I hope Jay Inslee, Gov of Washington, gets into it.

A governor with experience leading an executive branch and experience as a legislator in D.C. He has a great, progressive record.

MurrayDelph

(5,302 posts)
35. I'd throw in Jeff Merkley
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:03 PM
Jul 2018

I've been to several of his town halls and spoken to him directly. He was the first Senator to bring Trump's Kiddie Koncentration Kamps (my term) to the news.

potone

(1,701 posts)
57. I like him, too.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:16 PM
Jul 2018

I'm not sure that he will sell nationally. I don't want Biden or Sanders. They are too old. Elizabeth Warren seems very energetic despite her age. I don't know enough about Booker. I hope some more people in their 40s and 50s will run.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,919 posts)
38. Sanders and Biden are definitely too old.
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jul 2018

Warren probably is also, but she looks and behaves like someone at least ten years younger, so I'd support her if she chose to run.

However, we absolutely need much younger people running for President. As well as for the Senate and House.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
59. whoever can win
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jul 2018

Warren is popular among bernie crowd that are now desi franchised but she could reignite them and bring 2016 levels of enthusiasm. She doesn’t have socialism attached to her and as a former repub may sway some trump voters who are economically hurt. I was gonna say she lacks charisma but it seems that really is not all that important anymore. People are more than ever before are voting on issues.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
68. We need to survive midterms....period!
Sun Jul 15, 2018, 05:07 PM
Jul 2018

If we don't, we're done.

So please just stop the debates about 2020! It's futile and destructive within the party.

MIDTERMS......GOTV.....

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