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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:38 AM Aug 2012

This must have caused apoplexy amongst the Florida wingnuts

A Tampa Bay Times Editorial
Numbers on health act debunk GOP claims


One of the chief Republican objections to health care reform is that it will add too much to the deficit and the nation can't afford it. The problem with this claim is that it's wrong. The Congressional Budget Office has consistently maintained that the Affordable Care Act reduces the deficit by tens of billions of dollars even as it extends health coverage to millions of Americans. Those who are calling for its repeal on the grounds of fiscal responsibility need to explain how they would do better.

The latest CBO estimate says the health care law will reduce the federal deficit by $109 billion over the next 10 years. The budget office factored in changes as a result of the recent ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court upholding the law but giving states flexibility to opt out of its Medicaid expansion provisions. The CBO estimates there will be 6 million fewer people insured under Medicaid, with half of those obtaining insurance on the new state exchanges, leading to a net reduction in cost to the federal government of $84 billion.

It also noted that it will cost the federal government about a third more per person to subsidize low-income people on the state exchanges than to provide them Medicaid coverage. But since fewer will be covered, there will be savings.

Republican leaders, such as House Republican Policy Committee chairman Tom Price of Georgia, say the law is unaffordable by noting that it requires public outlays of $1.7 trillion — a number from the CBO analysis. But he and others conveniently disregard the other side of the ledger where the law balances expenditures through cost controls, new taxes, penalties and fees. As the CBO has repeatedly found, overall there is a net savings to taxpayers. The Affordable Care Act is a deficit-reduction measure.

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http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/numbers-on-health-act-debunk-gop-claims/1244046

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This must have caused apoplexy amongst the Florida wingnuts (Original Post) n2doc Aug 2012 OP
explain how they would do better. Flashmann Aug 2012 #1
K and R for the Teabaggers to ponder Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #2
Teabaggers don't ponder Martin Eden Aug 2012 #7
You nailed it: Now they're saying surgery will be denied old people loudsue Aug 2012 #10
n2doc Diclotican Aug 2012 #3
Pleeease!! Vietnameravet Aug 2012 #4
Oh, I didn't assume that n2doc Aug 2012 #8
What ACA will save in Medicare fraud alone . . . siligut Aug 2012 #5
ACA's Focus on PREVENTION alone will greatly reduce cost. ErikJ Aug 2012 #6
Of course we're assuming two things here... FLyellowdog Aug 2012 #9
The FL teabaggers elected a felon as Governor Doctor_J Aug 2012 #11
republicans don't live in a fact-based world. spanone Aug 2012 #12
An unhealthy population unable to work using their gifts is the greatest cost to everything. freshwest Aug 2012 #13

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
1. explain how they would do better.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:55 AM
Aug 2012

Any explanation they might offer will almost certainly be more lies......It's what they do best...

Martin Eden

(12,870 posts)
7. Teabaggers don't ponder
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:00 PM
Aug 2012

Most of their beliefs are built on a foundation of lies, so they're not going to ponder anything that might cause their house of delusion to come crashing down.

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
10. You nailed it: Now they're saying surgery will be denied old people
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:39 PM
Aug 2012

in order to save money. My teabagger sister just told me this yesterday, since her husband needs shoulder surgery. They're now scaring all the boomers into believing that the "death panels" are only the tip of the iceburg.

These people are fucking NUTS!

 

Vietnameravet

(1,085 posts)
4. Pleeease!!
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:46 PM
Aug 2012

You assume right wingers are honest folks interested in facts..Your first mistake. . Dont you remember Jim DeMint of SC saying they wanted to make health care Obamas Waterloo? And Mitch McConnell saying their first priority was to insure that black man in the White House did not get a second term? And Boss Limbaugh saying he wanted Obama to fail?

You really think facts like these are going to mean anything to these clowns?? Opps!! I mean these "folks"?

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
8. Oh, I didn't assume that
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:06 PM
Aug 2012

I just assumed anything positive about "Obamacare" that appears in that part of the world will cause conniption fits. Haven't looked at the letters to the paper, I'll bet there are some doozys coming.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
5. What ACA will save in Medicare fraud alone . . .
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:46 PM
Aug 2012

Of course, this may be a good part of why reTHUGs are really against it.

FLyellowdog

(4,276 posts)
9. Of course we're assuming two things here...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:17 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:54 PM - Edit history (1)

1...that the Republicans can read
and
2...that they can understand what they've just read.


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