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graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:13 PM Aug 2012

Can we discuss Wayne Allyn Root, because this is all over fb.

You may need to exit the page once to avoid the popup and then go back into it. This is really bringing out the Obama haters at fb.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama%E2%80%99s-college-classmate-the-obama-scandal-is-at-columbia/

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If you could unseal Obama’s Columbia University records I believe you’d find that:

A) He rarely ever attended class.

B) His grades were not those typical of what we understand it takes to get into Harvard Law School.

C) He attended Columbia as a foreign exchange student.

D) He paid little for either undergraduate college or Harvard Law School because of foreign aid and scholarships given to a poor foreign students like this kid Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

If you think I’m “fishing” then prove me wrong. Open up your records Mr. President. What are you afraid of?

If it’s okay for U.S. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to go on a fishing expedition about Romney’s taxes (even though he knows absolutely nothing about them nor will release his own), then I think I can do the same thing. But as Obama’s Columbia Class of ’83 classmate, at least I have more standing to make educated guesses.

It’s time for Mitt to go on the attack and call Obama’s bluff.

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Can we discuss Wayne Allyn Root, because this is all over fb. (Original Post) graywarrior Aug 2012 OP
Anyone making an argument who says "prove me wrong" drops off my "take seriously" list. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #1
+1000000 Initech Aug 2012 #53
From Glen Beck's site? RandiFan1290 Aug 2012 #2
Is that really Beck's site? graywarrior Aug 2012 #4
Yeah RandiFan1290 Aug 2012 #8
Always keep track of the enemy. graywarrior Aug 2012 #11
don't worry the MSM is there to do it for us TeamPooka Aug 2012 #47
I might listen to Glenn Beck too Quantess Aug 2012 #21
Glenn Beckian nonsense arcane1 Aug 2012 #3
Man, I really need to stop posting cats and pay attention to these things. graywarrior Aug 2012 #7
Now you know, so keep posting cats! :) arcane1 Aug 2012 #15
k graywarrior Aug 2012 #31
College classes do not take attendance hifiguy Aug 2012 #5
Even if they did... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #23
Umm, yeah they do. a la izquierda Aug 2012 #29
Could well be. I got my B.A. at a large state university hifiguy Aug 2012 #34
No, certainly not on any transcript at schools large or small... a la izquierda Aug 2012 #37
I got both bachelors and masters at a large public university nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #64
they don't show up in your transcripts. n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #44
Now that I think of it when I have gotten copies of my transcripts there were no attendance Maraya1969 Aug 2012 #58
But do ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #66
Most don't, but some do RZM Aug 2012 #33
SUNY colleges I attended sure do. Automatic F with a given number of absences. RedCappedBandit Aug 2012 #45
That was my first thought as well! JoePhilly Aug 2012 #51
Ivies don't nichomachus Aug 2012 #62
College records != tax records uponit7771 Aug 2012 #6
lol! HappyMe Aug 2012 #9
First off Kalidurga Aug 2012 #10
I know, it never ends, does it?! graywarrior Aug 2012 #14
Yeah, like I'd believe anything that Tea Bagger says. Says he doesn't remember Obama! sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 #12
So he goes from not knowing him to knowing him well enough Fawke Em Aug 2012 #39
Is he the football game picker? Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #13
Has any politician ever released college records? RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #16
Wayne Allyn Root is a scam artist from Las Vegas. Ganja Ninja Aug 2012 #17
lol, thank you! graywarrior Aug 2012 #18
he must have figured out that football season is only a few months long but ... Ganja Ninja Aug 2012 #20
facebook in nothing more than the latest version of the chain email... Javaman Aug 2012 #19
But but...fb allows me to hide in plain site of certain family members! graywarrior Aug 2012 #26
President Obama's school transcripts are the "new" Birth Certificate? Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #22
Oh, they want his medical records released too!! HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #25
Ok I was kidding when I said that Obama should do a record dump. Kalidurga Aug 2012 #35
Somebody did make this comparison to me gollygee Aug 2012 #24
Did Root release his college records... IggleDoer Aug 2012 #27
To state the obvious, Obama has a bit of a track record after college... JHB Aug 2012 #28
Since when have their college grades been important? I don't remember any other southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #30
"Root claims that he does not have any recollection of having met or seen Obama at Columbia.." sinkingfeeling Aug 2012 #32
Why is this BS even posted here? TeamPooka Aug 2012 #36
Watch your step. graywarrior Aug 2012 #38
okay let's waste our time with paranoid right wing conspiracy theories TeamPooka Aug 2012 #41
Better watch your tone graywarrior Aug 2012 #42
your OP says "Can we?" so I'm answering/discussing that and all you do is Threaten/warn? TeamPooka Aug 2012 #43
. graywarrior Aug 2012 #46
you and I are on the same team TeamPooka Aug 2012 #48
I'm nicer graywarrior Aug 2012 #52
Probably because this is a political discussion group? jobycom Aug 2012 #56
! graywarrior Aug 2012 #65
Funny... sendero Aug 2012 #40
I hate giving these whackos more internet traffic Marrah_G Aug 2012 #49
Well, it educated me nichomachus Aug 2012 #63
I use this factcheck.org link to debunk all this college records bullshit. apnu Aug 2012 #50
Thanks for the link. Strega Ribiera Aug 2012 #54
Easy. The winner of who is going to be the Harvard Law Review's editor is chosen with just numbers Maraya1969 Aug 2012 #55
Romney needs to release his tax records and prove he actually paid taxes! Then we'll discuss Lex Aug 2012 #57
I went to fact check, such a hoax! watercolors Aug 2012 #59
D) Damn why dd anybody forget to inform me of these nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #60
His claims have been so debunked in the past there's not much need to do any more research. jobycom Aug 2012 #61

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
47. don't worry the MSM is there to do it for us
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
Aug 2012

all they will do is tell us what the RW thinks about everything.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
21. I might listen to Glenn Beck too
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:51 PM
Aug 2012

if he turned the crazy dial up just a notch. His entertaining moments are too few and far between for me to sit through all of it.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
3. Glenn Beckian nonsense
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:16 PM
Aug 2012

and childish "I know you are but what am I" bullshit to hide the fact that they have nothing

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
5. College classes do not take attendance
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:17 PM
Aug 2012

save perhaps on the first day of the term. I stopped reading after that.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
29. Umm, yeah they do.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:11 PM
Aug 2012

Not all professors, but many, many do, especially in small colleges where discussion is an integral part of the grade.
I don't take attendance, but some of my colleagues do.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
34. Could well be. I got my B.A. at a large state university
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:41 PM
Aug 2012

and the only time the roll was taken was in recitation or lab sessions. Not that it would have been on my transcript in any case.

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
37. No, certainly not on any transcript at schools large or small...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:32 PM
Aug 2012

and I should've written that.
Some profs at large universities take attendance, too. It really depends, nowadays. When I was an undergrad, in the mid-'90s, there was a 3 absence policy: 3 misses, and you automatically failed the class. Yeesh.
My policy is if you miss class, you're probably going to fail simply because you're not there to participate, and you won't get the nuances of discussion and lecture.
That, and you'll miss quizzes.
But I could give a rat's arse if my students don't come to class. Their loss. I really don't have an attendance problem, though. I have very good students.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
64. I got both bachelors and masters at a large public university
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:37 PM
Aug 2012

They did, most of my profs did...just for accuracy sake. One of them did it the HS way, everybody was assigned a seat in the grid. It was also a cass with very high demand and you could lose your spot in the first three weeks for ack of it.

My husband is currently attending a JC. All his profs take roll.

I suspect one reasons for that is increased demand.

In fact, mine was the largest in the system.

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
58. Now that I think of it when I have gotten copies of my transcripts there were no attendance
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:24 PM
Aug 2012

records on them from either school that I went to. And truthfully it would look a little silly. Maybe that might be a professor's way of deciding your grade but I doubt it would show up on your transcripts.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
66. But do ...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:40 PM
Aug 2012

the attendance reports of those colleagues that take attendance show up on college transcripts?

 

RZM

(8,556 posts)
33. Most don't, but some do
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:17 PM
Aug 2012

In a large class, it's rarely taken in lecture, but usually is in discussion section. That's been my experience, anyway. But as mentioned above, it's done informally and wouldn't be on any transcript.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
62. Ivies don't
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:29 PM
Aug 2012

When I taught at a state college, I found out the hard way that I had to. I actually had a student tell me, "if you didn't take attendance, I wouldn't come to class."

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
10. First off
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:20 PM
Aug 2012

It wasn't Obama that started this. I forget who she was that started it. Secondly this hasn't been a requirement before. Maybe it should be a requirement, but lets get the old requirements met before we move on to new ones. Thirdly, we already know Obama graduated with honors. Fourthly, are we back to that birther nonsense again, give me a break.

sinkingfeeling

(51,459 posts)
12. Yeah, like I'd believe anything that Tea Bagger says. Says he doesn't remember Obama!
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:21 PM
Aug 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Allyn_Root

He was the 2008 Libertarian Party vice-presidential nominee.

His political talk radio show,W.A.R: The Wayne Allyn Root Showis broadcast in New York City, Los Angeles and Chicago. Root is a frequent guest on several nationally syndicated radio shows such as Savage Nation, The Jerry Doyle Show, and Mancow's Morning Madhouse. He has also made numerous appearances on various programs on the Fox News Channel. He is a frequent speaker at Tea Party events across the United States.[3]

Root's political columns appear in the Las Vegas Review Journal[4] and at Newsmax.com.[5]

"Root claims that he does not have any recollection of having met or seen Obama at Columbia..[7]"

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
39. So he goes from not knowing him to knowing him well enough
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:33 PM
Aug 2012

to see that he wasn't attending class, getting great grades and on a foreign student scholarship?



What rubes!

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
16. Has any politician ever released college records?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:25 PM
Aug 2012

This is not a typical part of the vetting process for candidates. At least, not that I'm aware of.

Tax returns, however, ARE relevant and typically released by politicians - thanks to Romney's own father.

False equivalency. They're just digging for dirt because they have no legitimate arguments against Obama, what he's done as president and his proposed policies.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
17. Wayne Allyn Root is a scam artist from Las Vegas.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:26 PM
Aug 2012

A while back he was running a football betting scam. The kind you hear on the radio offering inside information and "stone cold locks" of the week if you subscribe to his service. He's scum and he's got nothing.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
20. he must have figured out that football season is only a few months long but ...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:50 PM
Aug 2012

You can scam Teabaggers all year long.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
19. facebook in nothing more than the latest version of the chain email...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:49 PM
Aug 2012

if you read it on FB take it with a pound of salt.

I can't wait till I get "friended" by someone from Nairobi wanting me to help them out with a sizable amount of money they just inherited.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
22. President Obama's school transcripts are the "new" Birth Certificate?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:54 PM
Aug 2012

Am I correct?


What exactly are these people trying to prove (except how little of a "life" they have)?

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
25. Oh, they want his medical records released too!!
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:03 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021020818

So now, in addition to "Birfers", we have "Healthers" and "Schoolers"!!



They all fall in the same box for me . . . the "President Ni##er" people. That's all they are, and this is their "politically correct" way of saying that. They all wish it was the 1950s, when everything was separate and "everyone else" knew their place and bowed to the white man's every whim.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
35. Ok I was kidding when I said that Obama should do a record dump.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:37 PM
Aug 2012

I said that Obama should release everything from his birth certificate, his grades from k-12, his college transcripts, if he ever got a ticket, his library card info and throw in a urine sample to boot. I was kidding about the urine sample. Guess someone takes those urine samples a little to seriously.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
24. Somebody did make this comparison to me
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:57 PM
Aug 2012

When I said that Romney was hiding something, he said, "Well what is Obama hiding about his college records?" And I said, and I'll stand by it, that a record of what Obama got in Philosophy 101 that long ago is not parallel to whether Romney paid the taxes he should have, or for that matter any taxes at all, especially in the very recent past.

IggleDoer

(1,186 posts)
27. Did Root release his college records...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:07 PM
Aug 2012

... Las Vegas betting scam artist. Show some credibility yourself!

It's like the swift boaters ... said they were with Kerry in Niet Nam but really they meant that they were in the same geographical area.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
28. To state the obvious, Obama has a bit of a track record after college...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:11 PM
Aug 2012

Romney's tax returns are his track record.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
30. Since when have their college grades been important? I don't remember any other
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:13 PM
Aug 2012

president having to do that.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
36. Why is this BS even posted here?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:05 PM
Aug 2012

this right wing wishful propaganda has no place on DU unless there is a "Bullshit" section.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
43. your OP says "Can we?" so I'm answering/discussing that and all you do is Threaten/warn?
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 04:05 PM
Aug 2012

where's the dialogue here?
Crushed by the OP who asked the question he doesn't want answered or only wants his answer.
Next time make a statement and don't ask a question you don't want answered.
Now go watch yourself and don't bother to try to intimidate me again if you can't discuss your own thread issue.



sendero

(28,552 posts)
40. Funny...
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 01:46 PM
Aug 2012

... I'm sure this guy thinks he's making a point. What he probably doesn't realize is that the point is "I'm a fucking idiot".

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
63. Well, it educated me
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:31 PM
Aug 2012

My Fox-addicted sister was going on the other day about Obama's college records. I didn't have the guts to ask her what she was talking about, but now I know.

Maraya1969

(22,483 posts)
55. Easy. The winner of who is going to be the Harvard Law Review's editor is chosen with just numbers
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:18 PM
Aug 2012

assigned to the candidates applying. The candidate who achieves the greatest score wins the position of Editor of The Harvard Law Review. No one knows who is applying or whose test they are reading.

He couldn't be stupid. He has to be a very very smart man or a man who studied and went to class and did everything a very successful man would do.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
57. Romney needs to release his tax records and prove he actually paid taxes! Then we'll discuss
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:19 PM
Aug 2012

whatever Obama may release.

watercolors

(1,921 posts)
59. I went to fact check, such a hoax!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:24 PM
Aug 2012

Family member posted it on my FB, so I put all of the items of fact check on her FB! Guess I'm gone from her page! She has posted so much hatred & lies, I try to ignore but today was a tipping point. So much hatred distrubs me.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
60. D) Damn why dd anybody forget to inform me of these
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:26 PM
Aug 2012

Non- existent beanies?

I will just point out that every grant/ aid I ever saw had the requirement of us citizen.

jobycom

(49,038 posts)
61. His claims have been so debunked in the past there's not much need to do any more research.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:28 PM
Aug 2012

Snopes has the truth on his allegations. Like, his roommates at Columbia have talked about him, he published a paper while there, etc.

Root is just trying to keep his name in lights.

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