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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:31 PM Aug 2012

Romney Calls On Reid To Reveal His Source

Romney Calls On Reid To Reveal His Source

Mitt Romney on Tuesday called upon Harry Reid to reveal his source that claims Romney paid zero taxes over the previous 10 years, saying that the Senate Majority Leader has “lost a lot of credibility.”

“I don’t really believe that he’s got any kind of a credible source,” Romney told Fox News. “I don’t know who gave him this line of reasoning, whether it came from the White House or the DNC or a staffer, but he ought to say where it came from, and then we can find out whether that person has any credibility. I know they don’t.”

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-calls-on-reid-to-reveal-his-source


Worst. Candidate. Ever.

The ‘Missing Evidence’ In Romney’s Tax Records
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021084266

Mitt is trapped.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021073742


[font color="black" size="12" face="arial"]What is Mitt hiding?[/font]


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Romney Calls On Reid To Reveal His Source (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
The credibility lies in Mitt's tax returns CJCRANE Aug 2012 #1
Yup, and think ProSense Aug 2012 #5
True ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #31
Bingo!!! That's the best comment today! progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #44
K&R !!! Exactly! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2012 #52
There's a REAL easy way to solve this Mitt. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #2
Hey MittWit Reid and his Source aren't the only ones demanding your tax returns. PUT UP OR Justice wanted Aug 2012 #3
Wait...what? Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #4
oh my. the stupid. it hurts. I can't believe he said that. wow.. worst campaign, ever. nt progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #29
romney probably has a grudge against a co worker at Bain alp227 Aug 2012 #76
Keep talking, Willard. Gold Metal Flake Aug 2012 #6
I think the source should come forward too.... cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #7
The source might lose his/her job. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #10
+1, I've been considering the source would get retaliation. alp227 Aug 2012 #77
"the source" can't prove anything Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #12
But "the source" themselves is more reliable than second hand gossip. cbdo2007 Aug 2012 #25
Bad, bad move. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #36
True that. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #34
Big mistake, Mitsy, big mistake. n/t Raven Aug 2012 #8
Romney is admitting the possibility DearAbby Aug 2012 #9
Didn't he just hire the BP PR person? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #11
Jesus, ya think?! Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #15
She wasn't very good at the BP thing, either. Mitt is an 'oily duck" at this point. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #40
Romney's stupid cleduc Aug 2012 #13
There is only 1 way to know, nobodys word counts for anything 1-Old-Man Aug 2012 #14
best post ive read on this here nt arely staircase Aug 2012 #56
Oh Mitt !!!! russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #16
WilLIARd release your tax returns malaise Aug 2012 #17
Oh, I love what you've done to your subj. line darlin' nc4bo Aug 2012 #32
Yes bongbong Aug 2012 #47
Mitt is an idiot to keep this fight going. morningfog Aug 2012 #18
Lost credibility, eh? gollygee Aug 2012 #19
A Bain investor told me "Mitt paid no income taxes for a decade." Until Mitt disproves it, I belive. Scuba Aug 2012 #20
don't do it harry....call on romney to release his taxes. spanone Aug 2012 #21
Romney can't release his returns 33Greeper Aug 2012 #22
And I call on Rmoney to reveal his taxes WI_DEM Aug 2012 #23
"a Bain investor" Mister Romney KurtNYC Aug 2012 #24
+1 Historic NY Aug 2012 #70
If Romney paid 3 million in taxes in 2010 B2G Aug 2012 #26
Reid was referring to years prior to 2010. Cali_Democrat Aug 2012 #30
Was he? I've seen nothing in terms of years he's talking about. B2G Aug 2012 #38
for 10 years, not for THE LAST 10 years. maxsolomon Aug 2012 #55
Myth has been filing taxes for a long time. notadmblnd Aug 2012 #43
No mitt ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #27
missing is the journalists asking the correct follow up question.... TeamPooka Aug 2012 #28
Romney's dance Marymarg Aug 2012 #33
Tho Rafalca didn't win any medals, I believe that Romney is putting on a dance show right now. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #35
What - what? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #45
Mitt, you need Mary Anne to help dig that hole Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #37
Willard wants to send his goon squad out before Skidmore Aug 2012 #39
Why, so he can be "suicided" ? Incitatus Aug 2012 #41
Ha Ha! Keep responding Rmoney! RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #42
So does that mean Romney concedes that there is a source? In other words, Reid coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #46
Mitt's missing the logical gene, along with the ethical one. HE'S the one who has to come clean. Zen Democrat Aug 2012 #48
'Ole mittwit has fallen for that Hollywood canard: 'Any publicity is better than no publicity'.... Tikki Aug 2012 #49
Hey, maybe Charlie Sheen wants to party! Quantess Aug 2012 #71
Hey Mittwit, by making statements like this on Fox News reflection Aug 2012 #50
I think Romney should reveal his source Renew Deal Aug 2012 #51
Mitt just keeps PERPETUATING the story! grasswire Aug 2012 #53
Mitt still hasn't figured out that he's in a lose-lose situation. hay rick Aug 2012 #61
Holy Jeebus this guy is an idiot. liberalmuse Aug 2012 #54
It is astounding how stupid Romney is almost every time he opens his mouth. GardeningGal Aug 2012 #57
This is getting silly. He could prove it himself today. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #58
Mitt, if this level of privacy is so important to you, why did you run? JHB Aug 2012 #59
Let's compromise. kentuck Aug 2012 #60
No Mitt, that would be YOU that has "lost credibility"...release your returns and prove him wrong... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #62
Surprise rMoney!!! Pres. Obama will reveal the source's name in rebuttal SDjack Aug 2012 #63
LOL!!!! NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #64
. ProSense Aug 2012 #75
Mitt, you can prove he is wrong if you just release your tax returns... WCGreen Aug 2012 #65
Okay, it was me. I'm Sparticus. Patiod Aug 2012 #66
No fool, reveal your Tax Forms cause you've lost a lot of credibility SaveAmerica Aug 2012 #67
"and then we can find out whether that person has any credibility" colorado_ufo Aug 2012 #68
Look at what Rachel Maddow had to say about Harry Reid Quantess Aug 2012 #69
Why doesn't Mitt just show us that the source & Harry are liars... Historic NY Aug 2012 #72
Romney owns a couple of turnip trucks, actually JBoy Aug 2012 #73
Mitt, it's time to reveal the real Romney. magnifisense Aug 2012 #74

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Yup, and think
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:39 PM
Aug 2012

"The credibility lies in Mitt's tax returns not in the source or anywhere else."

...about what Mitt said:

then we can find out whether that person has any credibility

If he knows the person has no credibility, how will releasing the name of the source change that?

It's almost a tacit admission that the next part of his statement, "I know they don’t," is a lie.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
31. True ...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:35 PM
Aug 2012

What he is actually saying is:

"Once you disclose who told what, we will; then, attack that person's credibility ... But not by providing the only real proof, the tax filings."

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
44. Bingo!!! That's the best comment today!
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:42 PM
Aug 2012

You KNOW that is what they want to do. They want to rip that person to shreds, while still not releasing the returns.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
4. Wait...what?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:37 PM
Aug 2012

Romney said..."he ought to say where it came from, and then we can find out whether that person has any credibility."

Can't we simply find out if Romney releases his tax returns?

alp227

(32,029 posts)
76. romney probably has a grudge against a co worker at Bain
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:33 AM
Aug 2012

which is why he's desperate to know who this snitch is, hee hee

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
7. I think the source should come forward too....
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:39 PM
Aug 2012

if only for the fact that it would put the nail in Romney's political career.

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
10. The source might lose his/her job.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:42 PM
Aug 2012

...and would almost certainly get violence/death threats against them.

I wouldn't blame them for not wanting to come forward.

alp227

(32,029 posts)
77. +1, I've been considering the source would get retaliation.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:34 AM
Aug 2012

maybe the source will come out in a 60 Minutes exclusive interview the sunday after the election

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
12. "the source" can't prove anything
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:45 PM
Aug 2012

Unless "the source" is in possession of the actual filed returns.

Ten'll get you 20 that Rmoney bragged about his crackerjack tax team within his "inner circle" thinking they were all under the dome of silence and protected by the "we all do it" clause.

Only way to "prove" anything is to release the returns.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
25. But "the source" themselves is more reliable than second hand gossip.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:24 PM
Aug 2012

Right now we don't even know that a source exists and Romney can treat it like an attack. If you actually had someone on CBS Evening news with their voice changed and their face pixelated to hide their identity saying "I've seen his returns, he did this and this and this, and his UBS account, etc." then it would really put the pressure on Romney. I think this is coming eventually.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
36. Bad, bad move.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:37 PM
Aug 2012

Then it really becomes he said/she said and an accusation war as opposed to just letting the question, What is Mitt hiding, hang out in thin air and continue the Romney-endorsed speculation game.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
9. Romney is admitting the possibility
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:41 PM
Aug 2012

this source exists....WRONG MOVE. He should have just flat out denied the claim....but he opens the door...can't help himself. A good media would now have the scent, and onto a scoop of their careers...looking for Reid's source.

Reid doesn't have to do a thing. Just stand by the statement.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
11. Didn't he just hire the BP PR person?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:42 PM
Aug 2012

Seriously - is there no one available for this campaign to soundboard things off before they go on the air with them?

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
15. Jesus, ya think?!
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:52 PM
Aug 2012

Just in case this issue is starting to die down, let me make a completely gratuitous statement that is certain to keep in in the forefront of the new 3-4 news cycles.

On the other hand....

Go Mitt! You just go defend yourself some more!

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
40. She wasn't very good at the BP thing, either. Mitt is an 'oily duck" at this point.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:40 PM
Aug 2012

And some disasters just cannot be contained....

Has it occurred to anyone in the media or the GOP voters, that a Presidential candidate has hired a CRISIS specialist/PR person? not exactly inspiring confidence in their presumptive nominee. lol

 

cleduc

(653 posts)
13. Romney's stupid
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:46 PM
Aug 2012

It's like responding to a troll in an argument that can never be won

As Gibbs said, this is the only way Romney can win the argument:

and that's only if what is in his tax returns doesn't cause him more problems - which is apparently not the case.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
14. There is only 1 way to know, nobodys word counts for anything
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:46 PM
Aug 2012

Only the documents themselves can answer the question, it is the ink on the paper that is the only authority. It doesn't make a hoot in hell what Reid says, what Romney says, what anyone says, only what is written on the paper counts. And because the privacy of tax returns is only rivaled by the sanctity of the 2nd Amendment by our Government we can only see them if Romney himself discloses them. So the onus is on Mitt to bring the issue to and end.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
32. Oh, I love what you've done to your subj. line darlin'
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:35 PM
Aug 2012

it's extremely creative. Even his name gives him away!!!

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
47. Yes
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:48 PM
Aug 2012

I love "wilLIARd". Add it to Hood, and you get:

"wilLIARd Romney Hood"

For variety I like Flip-Flopper

"Flip-Flopper The Tax Cheat"

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
19. Lost credibility, eh?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:05 PM
Aug 2012

That's what they call projection. All anyone wants is to see his tax returns. That's all. It isn't an unusual thing - it is STANDARD. The fact that he won't, and is so incredibly stubborn about it, raises serious concerns. There has to be something awful in there if he's that afraid of it. And the more he talks about why he won't release them, the more people are going to wonder why he's so afraid to release them. This won't go away.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
20. A Bain investor told me "Mitt paid no income taxes for a decade." Until Mitt disproves it, I belive.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:05 PM
Aug 2012

33Greeper

(188 posts)
22. Romney can't release his returns
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:09 PM
Aug 2012

because the Mormon Church will find out just how much he's stiffed them over the years.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
24. "a Bain investor" Mister Romney
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:10 PM
Aug 2012

"a Bain investor"
"a Bain investor"
"a Bain investor"
"a Bain investor"
"a Bain investor"

Not: "the White House or the DNC or a staffer"

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
38. Was he? I've seen nothing in terms of years he's talking about.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:40 PM
Aug 2012

All I have heard is Romney has paid no taxes in the 'past 10 years', which given his 2010 returns isn't true.

Can you point me to that quote? My dad is driving me nuts over this.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
43. Myth has been filing taxes for a long time.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:41 PM
Aug 2012

Harry Reid didn't say which ten years he paid no taxes for.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
27. No mitt ...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:29 PM
Aug 2012

This is the turn. I raised your bet. In order to see the next card, you must put more chips in the pot.

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
28. missing is the journalists asking the correct follow up question....
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:32 PM
Aug 2012

"what if it is a credible source Gov.? What will you do then?

Marymarg

(823 posts)
33. Romney's dance
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:36 PM
Aug 2012

For a seasoned liar, Romney is botching this one.

It makes sense to me that since Romney knows the truth of the matter, he would also know about the credibility of Reid's source. Thus, Romney, if he were being factual would be outraged over the lie being perpetrated over him than continuing to focus on the credibility of his accuser's source. In addition to Romney's obvious guilt of having something to hide by refusing to release his tax returns, he compounds his appearance of dishonesty by acknowledging that it is reasonable to think the allegations are true if the source is a credible person. An honest person with nothing to hide would not even think this way. He is so obviously trying to change the focus--away from himself.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
35. Tho Rafalca didn't win any medals, I believe that Romney is putting on a dance show right now.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:37 PM
Aug 2012

Lame! They're trying SO hard to spin this, to turn it around that at this point? Unless someone is a huge fan of Romneys or hates the President that much, they're going to start saying "wait, he must be hiding SOMETHING."

He doth protest too much. In trying to turn it around, he's making even worse. "let's see if they have any credibility!" Ummm. No. Release the returns so we can see if they're telling the truth.

He's getting away with erasing everything from his computer and his staff computers, when they bought the hard drives after his time as Gov of Mass. He's getting away with making big claims about the SLC Olympics, though he donated the records and they are SEALED at a school in Utah. But this is not going away. It's getting much worse for him.

The only way to solve this is release the fucking returns.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
45. What - what?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:43 PM
Aug 2012

The Olympic records are sealed at a school in Utah?

How is that even legal given the taxpayer money the US Government spent on the games?

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
41. Why, so he can be "suicided" ?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:40 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:08 PM - Edit history (1)

Bad things happen to those who expose Republicans for the scum they are.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
42. Ha Ha! Keep responding Rmoney!
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:41 PM
Aug 2012

The more you do the more our conflict-crazed media will keep talking about your tax returns and why you won't release them.



Reid has really nailed him with this tactic. Who is controlling the narrative now?

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
46. So does that mean Romney concedes that there is a source? In other words, Reid
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:45 PM
Aug 2012

isn't a 'dirty liar'? Then why isn't Romney demanding that RNC Penis apologize for his slander on national televsion?

Tikki

(14,557 posts)
49. 'Ole mittwit has fallen for that Hollywood canard: 'Any publicity is better than no publicity'....
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:54 PM
Aug 2012




Tikki

reflection

(6,286 posts)
50. Hey Mittwit, by making statements like this on Fox News
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:57 PM
Aug 2012

you are only grandstanding for people that are voting for you anyway. Try it on another news channel. I use the word "news" loosely of course, since we are talking about Fox News.

hay rick

(7,624 posts)
61. Mitt still hasn't figured out that he's in a lose-lose situation.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:43 PM
Aug 2012

But he could be the next president. Sometimes you don't know whether to laugh or cry.

OK, I'm laughing.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
54. Holy Jeebus this guy is an idiot.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:04 PM
Aug 2012

Anyone who votes for him is out of their minds. This public display of utter stupidity is torturous to watch.

GardeningGal

(2,211 posts)
57. It is astounding how stupid Romney is almost every time he opens his mouth.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:20 PM
Aug 2012

I guess he's so used to yes people surrounding him that he has lost all ability to reason.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
59. Mitt, if this level of privacy is so important to you, why did you run?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:38 PM
Aug 2012

"My opponent will just use them to make hay.". Yeah, and so what? You're making hay about claims Obama never made.

You aren't even cherry-picking quotes! You're surgically removing slices of boilerplate and calling them cherries!


Either you're irrationally scared of hay, or else it's not making hay you're trying to dodge, it's a haymaker. What's in that haystack?

kentuck

(111,102 posts)
60. Let's compromise.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:39 PM
Aug 2012

Mitt, you show us your tax returns and then Harry can tell us who his source happens to be. Sound fair?

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
62. No Mitt, that would be YOU that has "lost credibility"...release your returns and prove him wrong...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:45 PM
Aug 2012

...see how simple that is?

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
63. Surprise rMoney!!! Pres. Obama will reveal the source's name in rebuttal
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:55 PM
Aug 2012

during your first debate. Next, ...

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
65. Mitt, you can prove he is wrong if you just release your tax returns...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:06 PM
Aug 2012

I notice that John McCain hasn't said anything either way and he saw the returns....

That leads me to deduce that he didn't pay or paid so little as to be harmful to the Romney construct.

Patiod

(11,816 posts)
66. Okay, it was me. I'm Sparticus.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:08 PM
Aug 2012


What a stupid question. Why should it matter if it's me, someone from Bain, or one of his kids?

Either he paid his fair share of taxes (and tithed 10% to the LDS, as claimed) , or he didn't.

End of story. Easy-peasy.

colorado_ufo

(5,734 posts)
68. "and then we can find out whether that person has any credibility"
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:17 PM
Aug 2012

Why? So you can then decide whether or not you actually paid taxes for those 10 years, based on their "credibility"? Don't you know whether or not you paid them?

What a stupid, nonsensical, illogical statement.

Oh - that's right - you said that you paid "taxes, lots of them." I assume you meant property, sales, etc. - you just can't seem to recall whether or not you paid INCOME taxes!

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
72. Why doesn't Mitt just show us that the source & Harry are liars...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:44 PM
Aug 2012

boy thats the easiest thing he could do.

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