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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVery interesting POV on Slate "Accusing Trump of Treason Will Only Help Him"
The facts are coming. Theres no need to leap beyond them.By FRED KAPLAN
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/accusing-trump-of-treason-makes-him-stronger.html
A convincing case could now be made that President Donald Trump has abused his power, obstructed justice, violated the Emoluments Clause of the Constitutionall impeachable offensesand badly tarnished our national security. But he has not committed treason, and his critics should steer clear of such hyperbole, lest they play into his hands and invigorate his supporters.
The charge first took hold on Monday, after his press conference in Helsinki with Russian President Vladimir Putin, where Trump, among other outrages, sided with Putin and disputed his own intelligence agencies on whether Russia had meddled in our 2016 election. Former CIA Director John Brennan tweeted that Trumps performance was not only impeachable and imbecilic but also nothing short of treasonousa verdict that several commentators soon endorsed.
This is no trifling matter. By federal statute, treason is a capital crime, punishable by death. It is also the only crime that the founders chose to define in the Constitution, and they did so very carefully and very narrowly.
Treason against the United States, reads Article III, Section 3, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
Notice the word only. The founders, who had their roots in rebellion and foresaw more revolutions ahead, wanted to ensure the law wasnt expanded to cover other lesser crimes. Notice also the words levying war and enemies. In the few treason cases tried, mostly after World War II, the courts have ruled that enemies implies opposing armies in wartime. Jurists have also agreed that, while Congress doesnt have to declare war in order for acts of betrayal to be considered treasonous, there does have to be an open state of armed conflict between the United States and some enemy.
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Still, its time to snap out of it. Hard facts are coming, and its important to recognize, highlight, and act on their significance. Things are outrageous enough without getting dragged down in Trumps game and getting lost in empty rhetoric, like the loose, uninformed cries of treason.
not too long a read, good food for thought....what do you think, folks?
SHRED
(28,136 posts)Republicans, do what you want.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)The country is so divided and unhinged and the right wing noise machine froths up their base with anything that comes from the left.
Just an interesting way to look at things, I think. Not saying it is the correct way.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... if Red Don was officially found guilty MAGA Nationalist will find something to froth about.
Damned if we do damned if we don't might as we be damned correct and speak the truth
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)It does now.
Technically, Iraq wasn't a war. Afghanistan wasn't a war. Korea and Vietnam weren't wars. But we all know that's essentially bullshit.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Let's just keep on letting them punch us in the face and responding with a smile. Because that's been working out really well for us.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)oasis
(49,382 posts)The official evidence will just have to catch up.
DeminPennswoods
(15,286 posts)talking about a clip of Paul Ryan speaking. He said O'Donnell cut the clip short and what was left off was Ryan saying Russian interference did not affect the election results. Then Frum said more indictments are coming and Trump will be exposed as an illegitimate president or words to that effect.
qazplm135
(7,447 posts)and start worrying about working up ours.
His base is smaller than ours. Our base just didn't show up last time.