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Breaking: Conor Lamb leads by 12 point in new PA-17 district (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2018 OP
That sounds promising. MineralMan Jul 2018 #1
lamb is a class act......... Old Vet Jul 2018 #39
I wish him victory! MineralMan Jul 2018 #40
Thanks for posting . DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #2
Yes, before polling came out. brooklynite Jul 2018 #3
I thought the realignment favored him... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #4
Waiting for the "Oh well, at least we tried" post gratuitous Jul 2018 #5
Perhaps OR could complain that he's not a "real Democrat"? brooklynite Jul 2018 #6
Is he in favor of Medicare for All, $15 minimum wage, free this, free that, free kittens? George II Jul 2018 #9
That's weak. We need a free unicorn for everyone IronLionZion Jul 2018 #14
He doesn't need to give me a unicorn. pazzyanne Jul 2018 #28
Blue Waaaaavvvvvveeeee FSogol Jul 2018 #7
That is fantastic news! blue neen Jul 2018 #8
Forgot something............ MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #12
Conor Lamb doesn't want to ban gun ownership in our state (deerhunter's paradise) FakeNoose Jul 2018 #15
I was referring to MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #19
OK, he did say that about Nancy Pelosi last winter FakeNoose Jul 2018 #21
Right. He should just say Pelosi is not a priority with him. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2018 #26
Pelosi understands when it comes to red districts JI7 Jul 2018 #29
I wouldn't take too much for granted... MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #36
Agreed - must take every possible seat; no other way to save the country at this point. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #17
The vote for majority is worth more than every other vote combined Recursion Jul 2018 #22
Yes, assuming a majority of the majority is Dem enough to support subpoenas. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #25
Tell that to New York State...... vi5 Jul 2018 #32
I really wanted to be a part of voting Rothfus out, but we were redistricted. blue neen Jul 2018 #27
Was that to spread the voters out better to counter gerrymandering? n/t theaocp Jul 2018 #35
It was. blue neen Jul 2018 #37
I'm glad to hear it, though it sucks to live in a more Republican district. theaocp Jul 2018 #38
I will be soooo happy when we see the last of Rothfus ebbie15644 Jul 2018 #10
UPDATE: Cook Political moves PA-17 to "Lean D" brooklynite Jul 2018 #11
I can only go by his positions edhopper Jul 2018 #13
We can only hope that no one from the OR gang shows up to bash him.. honest.abe Jul 2018 #16
But they will............... Old Vet Jul 2018 #41
Where are the Russian trolls? IronLionZion Jul 2018 #18
I live here and I can tell you that Keith Rothfus deserves to lose FakeNoose Jul 2018 #24
Excellent news! peggysue2 Jul 2018 #20
Wow great news! workinclasszero Jul 2018 #23
Thank you for the great news. samir.g Jul 2018 #30
Not a surprise. he seems like a good choice for that seat. nt 7962 Jul 2018 #31
There are a lot of reasons why Conor Lamb is ahead and one of them is... aikoaiko Jul 2018 #33
Great news. This is a VERY busy year for him. Hortensis Jul 2018 #34

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Waiting for the "Oh well, at least we tried" post
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:26 AM
Jul 2018

Isn't anyone going to pronounce doooooom? Or at least chip in with why Lamb is no better than Rothfus and it doesn't matter and why waste your time and the Republicans are invincible?

Come on, bots! Where are you?

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. Is he in favor of Medicare for All, $15 minimum wage, free this, free that, free kittens?
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:40 AM
Jul 2018

All things considered, he's a PERFECT Democrat for that district, I hope he holds on to that lead.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
14. That's weak. We need a free unicorn for everyone
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jul 2018

or we must throw him under the bus and let the repubs win another one.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
12. Forgot something............
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:56 AM
Jul 2018

Not only is he inept, he's an inept, incompetent idiot. I suspect that somewhere in a small room off of his office he has an autographed picture of Louie Gohmert hanging on an altar.

Congressman Lamb is the perfect example of what Democrats must do to take control of Congress. He may not be the ideal candidate for more progressive party members, but he is the man to put that district back into Democratic control. THAT must be our #1 objective!

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
15. Conor Lamb doesn't want to ban gun ownership in our state (deerhunter's paradise)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:10 PM
Jul 2018

...but the same can be said about virtually every PA politician on either side of the aisle. He's still an awesome US Representative and a perfect Dem. candidate.

Lamb is not a shill for the NRA, unlike other elected officials in our state, so please cool it with the talk about "not an ideal candidate."

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
19. I was referring to
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jul 2018

his comment in the last campaign about supporting Pelosi.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/26/politics/pennsylvania-house-race-conor-lamb-nancy-pelosi/index.html

I believe this will qualify for allowing me to mention the possibility of him as "not an ideal candidate."

( and yes, I did support him with donations to his campaign )



FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
21. OK, he did say that about Nancy Pelosi last winter
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jul 2018

...but he was running in a conservative district and he had to win conservative voters over.

My apologies if you are already aware of this, but his opponent Rick Saccone's TV ads last Jan-Feb-March were all criticizing Nancy Pelosi. His ads were (mostly) paid for by the RNC and they barely noticed who Saccone was running against. Apparently all they care about is unseating Pelosi. So the TV ads were really ridiculous here last winter (I live in Pittsburgh.)

I'm sure that Connor Lamb, now that he has won the special election and is on the way to winning in November, knows how to be a good party member when it's important to play along. We can't put too much importance on campaign rhetoric, is how I feel about it. He can support Nancy now, and it won't make a bit of difference.

DinahMoeHum

(21,784 posts)
26. Right. He should just say Pelosi is not a priority with him. . .
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:38 PM
Jul 2018

. . .and she's not running for Congress in his district.

MyOwnPeace

(16,926 posts)
36. I wouldn't take too much for granted...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 02:23 PM
Jul 2018

PA-12 is STILL an area that was won by IQ45 in 2016 (tons of MAGA signs everywhere - and still are!) and it will be important for Congressman Lamb to fight to the end - and present values that would mean something to his constituents.
Rothfus is bad - Lamb is good - but he has to be careful to keep his constituents contented with how he would represent them - and avoid being labeled as a "radical left winger" and all of the other nasty things the Tea Party would like to claim.
He ran his last campaign quite well - I have no doubt he will do so again this time.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
17. Agreed - must take every possible seat; no other way to save the country at this point.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jul 2018

I'd rather have somebody who will be with us on 80% than 0%.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. The vote for majority is worth more than every other vote combined
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:29 PM
Jul 2018

Because a Democratic majority can subpoena Trump admin goons

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
25. Yes, assuming a majority of the majority is Dem enough to support subpoenas.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jul 2018

Not a guarantee, if we expand the tent TOO much. e.g. Manchin

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
32. Tell that to New York State......
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 01:19 PM
Jul 2018

...and the "Independent Democratic Caucus" that voted to give control to Republicans even though they were Democrats and the majority of elected state reps were Democrats. Or the BS that state Dems are shoveling out to new Governer Phill Murphy.

Not saying it's a given that will or would happen at the national level, but as politics in the blue states of New York and my own state of New Jersey show, it's also not a given that full control means actual control.

The point is less that we shouldn't vote for the Dem and more that once we are elected and have control there needs to be some degree of party discipline and consequences for blocking Democratic control and/or the basics of the Democratic agenda.

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
27. I really wanted to be a part of voting Rothfus out, but we were redistricted.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:45 PM
Jul 2018

We are now in PA-14, which is even more Republican than the old PA-12. Can you believe that?

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
37. It was.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:22 PM
Jul 2018

The gerrymandered districts were ridiculous...spread across several counties, with little slivers of communities in different, unrepresentative districts. The new districts make more sense that way. It just so happens that our district became even more Republican than it already was. Other districts became more Democratic.

theaocp

(4,236 posts)
38. I'm glad to hear it, though it sucks to live in a more Republican district.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:33 PM
Jul 2018

You have my sympathies. We'll see what our horrifying SC will do with our MI proposal. These cheaters just never fucking give up, despite all our efforts to the contrary. There was a lot of support during the petition drives, but it could all go up in a puff of smoke.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
18. Where are the Russian trolls?
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:12 PM
Jul 2018

Surely some DUer will come by to tell us why there's no point voting and we must punish the Democratic party and let the Repubs win this one.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
24. I live here and I can tell you that Keith Rothfus deserves to lose
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:35 PM
Jul 2018

Even if his opponent were only HALF as good as Connor Lamb, Rothfus would still deserve to lose. I believe Rothfus ran unopposed the last few times because of the nasty PA gerrymandering. But all that is over now!

Bring on the blue wave in Pennsylvania!

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
20. Excellent news!
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jul 2018

Which underscores the idea that Dems can win in Republican strongholds when a candidate matches his/her district and constituency.

It's not rocket science.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
33. There are a lot of reasons why Conor Lamb is ahead and one of them is...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 01:24 PM
Jul 2018

...this.

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It makes sense in some states for Democrats to be pro-gun and pro-RKBA. Not everyone needs to pick up an AR and start blasting down range, but all they have to say is, "no new Federal gun bans," for this issue to be a non-issue for some moderate voters.



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