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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:06 PM Jul 2018

Considering/reconsidering a potential smoking gun: Rykov's Carter Page Facebook post.

Those who have known me on DU for at least the past year have known I have been focused on several particular individuals in the Trussia scandal. The most intriguing of these people arguably is Konstantin Rykov, a former Russian parliamentarian for Putin's United Russia who has also been described as one of the Kremlin's chief online propogandists.

A year ago, I stumbled upon a Facebook post from Rykov dated November 12, 2016, several days after the US election, where Rykov appeared to offer a stunning confession about running a four-year campaign from Russia--utilizing Cambridge Analytica data and Wikileaks--to influence US voters to elect Donald Trump. The post even includes the wild claim that Rykov personally interacted with Donald Trump on Twitter on Election Night 2012. (And while that can't be verified yet, he was indeed discussing Donald Trump on Twitter on Election Night 2012).

Reading further into Rykov's background--which includes apparent concerted attempts to influence other foreign elections, such as in France and Scotland--and his heavy advocacy for Trump (even throwing parties in Moscow for him on election night and inauguration day) I was immediately captivated and began to scour his Facebook and Twitter pages for other notable admissions on his part. Because Rykov wrote exclusively in Russian, I utilized the Google Translate add-on feature on my Chrome Browser to efficiently translate his claims.

Around March of this year, I found what looked to be yet another astonishing claim on Rykov's part. I found a Facebook post of his from July 2016--meaning it was during the campaign--discussing a speech that Carter Page, then-foreign policy advisor to the Trump campaign, was giving at that very time in Moscow. Here's the original Facebook post:

https://www.facebook.com/konstantin.rykov/posts/10209422386386902

Here's my post on DU referencing my discovery:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210385959

Rykov's original post, as I read via online translation, immediately set off red flags:


It is clear that the lecture at the NES was a cover and Carter Page came to Moscow for other reasons. The impression is still very positive. I can imagine how worried old Michael McFaul is .


This was important because Page had insisted he gave the speech in Moscow in an individual capacity and not as a representative of the Trump campaign. This clearly disputes that claim. Also notable is the fact that he actually tags in former US Ambassador Michael McFaul into the post, meaning McFaul was aware of his statements (and in fact acknowledges it in the comments.) Rykov had an ongoing online feud with McFaul--who he blamed for harsh policies against Russia from the US--and would frequently use his posts as attempts to antagonize or show off in front of McFaul.

But as amazing of a claim as that was on its own, even more astonishing was what I found in the comment section. Rykov has a conversation with one of his followers, Yulia Nikolaevskaya. This is what came out via the Google Translate add on via Chrome:



Yulia Nikolaevskaya Wow. How nice to hear that. I wonder if Trump will become president, will they keep such rhetoric towards Russia?

Konstantin Rykov He also came to the intelligence service to understand the reaction to Donald



My jaw absolutely dropped when I read that. If this was correct--and Rykov was relaying his actual knowledge (in front of Michael McFaul, no less)--he was admitting Carter Page, while a member of the Trump campaign, came to Moscow to meet with members of the Russian intelligence services.

This was not just a smoking gun, it was a smoking gun with a confession note tied to it written in the victim's blood and smeared with the perp's fingerprints. This seemed to directly correlate with the Steele Dossier's claim that Page met with Russian intel figure Igor Diveykin while he was in Russia in July 2016, a fact that would have certainly supported the FISA warrant later issued on Page. Either McFaul or anyone monitoring Rykov's postings could have plausibly relayed these claims to US intel.

I wanted to scream these facts from the mountain top, especially whenever the FISA warrant from Page was assailed by Trump supporters. I tried numerous times to notify media outlets/personalities about this, but to no greater success. Finally independent journalist Scott Stedman--who helped publicize Rykov's November 2016 "confession" on the media--did mention it in a tweet and it has received a small bit of attention on Twitter, but nothing yet from any major media sources.

This was all this week, when renewed attention has been focused on Page due to release of the heavily redacted FISA warrant on him.

Also this week, I have been appraised--and I do think it's genuine and not simply a matter of disinfo--that there could be another plausible translation for Rykov's second statement in his post, one that is somewhat more vague as to the scope of Page's activities.

The alternate translation reads something to the effect of: "He came to investigate to understand the reaction to Donald."

When you put the sentence in dispute directly into the Google Translate website feature (as opposed to the browser add on), it reads: "He came to explore to understand the reaction to Donald."

The Facebook translation service is a little more ominous, reading: "He and came to recon to understand the reaction to Donald." ("Recon" suggests a more covert and out of plain sight motive behind Page's actions.)

The phrase in original Russian that Rykov uses is: "Он и приехал на разведку, чтобы понять реакцию на Дональда."

So what is more likely to be correct, the Google Chrome translation app, or the more benign alternate translations? I ran it by several DUers who know Russian and there was no consensus as to whether or not Rykov was actually admitting that Page was communicating with Russian intelligence officers.

The key word of dispute here has to be "разведку" and whether that has a certain expected dual meaning when used by Russians. If you translate that word alone in Google Translate, you'll find that it could mean "Exploration". But it also could specifically mean "intelligence service."

Notably, if you go to Google Translate and ask for the standalone translation of "exploration", it will give you the Russian word "исследование." If you look up "investigate", it will give you "исследовать." Neither of these are the same as the word Rykov used, which is "разведкy." And the standalone translation of "intelligence service" via Google Translate is "разведка" which is a variation of the word Rykov used.

Could Rykov have attempted to been sly and used a word like "разведкy", which apparently has a dual meaning, and the Google Chrome translation app betrayed his motives?

Or was Rykov simply claiming that Carter Page went to Russia to simply investigate from Russians--even ordinary Russians--as to what their opinions on Donald Trump were?

But why would Rykov go to the bother of saying that? Who cares what Joe or Sally Russian thinks about Donald Trump, seeing that they're not Americans and they can't vote in our elections? Why would Carter Page go through the effort of trying to get the opinion of ordinary Russians on Donald Trump? That seems like a waste of time and rather silly, even for a silly guy like Carter Page.

The only Russians who seemed important enough to have an opinion on Donald Trump would be those connected to the Kremlin or FSB or GRU, and if Carter Page was in fact communicating with any of those persons in July 2016, it is indeed a very huge, enormous deal.

The known knowns (as Donald Rumsfeld would put it) about Carter Page were this:

1. We know he had been in contact with members of Russian intelligence services back in 2013
2. We know that in July 2016, while an active member of the Trump campaign's foreign policy team, he traveled to Moscow and delivered a speech at the New Economic School
3. We know that Rykov's post deeming this speech a "cover" for other activities of Page was written in July 2016 while Page was in Moscow, and we know that Michael McFaul was aware of this particular post
4. We know that the Steele Dossier--whether verified or not--contains a memo written in late July 2016 (right after Page's visit) claiming that Page met with Russian intel officer Igor Diveykin while Page was in Moscow in July 2016.

This dual/disputed translation and/or choice of words by Rykov might be something of a caveat, but notwithstanding, I still think his Facebook post is a whopper of a smoking gun.


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Considering/reconsidering a potential smoking gun: Rykov's Carter Page Facebook post. (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 OP
Screencaps of the Google Chrome translation, and the original Russian: Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #1
Ask Julia Davis lamsmy Jul 2018 #8
Thanks. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #11
breathtaking oldtime dfl_er Jul 2018 #2
I'm split as well. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #4
and yet oldtime dfl_er Jul 2018 #6
An idiot savant of sorts. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #7
yes oldtime dfl_er Jul 2018 #9
Thank you, that was very illuminating! donkeypoofed Jul 2018 #3
Good work. Its all pointing in the right direction to collusion or worse. aikoaiko Jul 2018 #5
Kick dalton99a Jul 2018 #10
Thank you for your work on this report. oasis Jul 2018 #12
You're welcome. Nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #13
Just out of curiosity, I did a search for "разведку" on Twitter. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2018 #14

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
1. Screencaps of the Google Chrome translation, and the original Russian:
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jul 2018
Translation via Google Chrome:




Original Russian:





Link to Facebook post (which knock on wood, is still up):


https://www.facebook.com/konstantin.rykov/posts/10209422386386902

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
2. breathtaking
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jul 2018

This is important work. There are so many threads to the Russiagate story that it's almost impossible to follow them all. Carter Page to me is something of an enigma. Is he a useful idiot or is he a smart person acting the useful idiot? Are his stupid hats sending signals, and if so, to whom? Russians? Trump? Both? Neither?

He is clearly, to my mind, a much more central figure than most people seem to think -- which tells me the useful idiot ruse is working. I can only hope he's been a double agent, or a triple agent or whatever, wearing a wire all this time.

If, as I'm becoming increasingly convinced, DJT is working directly with the Russians, it would make sense for the IC to have planted someone inside the campaign early on. 2013 was a pivotal year, that was the yr 45 went to Moscow. Is it possible the IC decided at that time to implant Page or at least get him started on contacting Russians?

What is your sense of all these disjointed questions of mine?

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
4. I'm split as well.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jul 2018

I'm leaning towards him being both an idiot and a Russian agent, because I think if he were a double agent for the US given his contacts with Russia he would have probably met a rather unfortunate demise by now. Unless he has super strong security that we don't know about.

I think Russians are intrigued by his apparent stupidity but use it to their advantage.

I also think the FBI and CIA feel likewise.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
6. and yet
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:32 PM
Jul 2018

When I read his resume he appears to be quite intelligent and successful. I know these things can be deceiving, but Wikipedia states:

5 years in the navy, at least part of which was spent as some kind of intel officer
MBA from NYU
PhD from U of London
Investment banker at Merrill Lynch

There are a number of citations in the Wikipedia entry that imply he's not bright, but how does a guy like that manage to move in the circles he did, if he's so stupid?

In some ways, I'm reminded of the "3 hoboes" of JFK assassination fame. These were the guys that made stupid faces so that any photos of them would be unrecognizable. Stupid is smart sometimes. But you could be right as well. Stupid could just be stupid.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
7. An idiot savant of sorts.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jul 2018

Bright in certain departments, but clueless in others.

Consider world re-known Brain Surgeon Ben Carson as another example.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
14. Just out of curiosity, I did a search for "разведку" on Twitter.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 02:15 PM
Jul 2018

Almost all of the findings either translate to "reconnaissance", "scouting" or "intelligence service."

So it appears the word clearly infers a degree of covert activity as opposed to ordinary fact finding.

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