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PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 05:46 PM Jul 2018

Awful heat wave in PNW. I hate it.

I’m trying to save the trout in my pond from dying due to elevated water temperatures. I have a sprinkler going 24/7 into the pond. I also have a compressor for aeration for oxygen. Hoping for relief but I don’t see any in the near future. High pressure has got us by the throat. No floating fish bodies...YET. This Northwest girl is happy with partly sunny skies and 70 degrees!

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Awful heat wave in PNW. I hate it. (Original Post) PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 OP
well, you gave us all your damn rain .... kwassa Jul 2018 #1
Not only did we have yet another big storm tonight, but we just lost power here Rhiannon12866 Jul 2018 #56
Yeah, we usually get SOME rain in July! This is one of the longest dry spells I can remember! PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #60
You and me both. Aristus Jul 2018 #2
Yes, from what I read the worst heat is from Everett south. PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Akacia Jul 2018 #32
The pond is 150 feet long, 100 feet wide and... PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #3
Send a thermometer down eight, ten feet - the water may not be near as warm as you think it is Brother Buzz Jul 2018 #16
I hate it, too. Give me back my clouds and marine breeze and drizzle to rain. suffragette Jul 2018 #4
What's a PNW? procon Jul 2018 #5
You do know there's more than one species of trout, right? Mariana Jul 2018 #6
Right. The OP doesn't mention the temp. Guess it's a minor detail. brush Jul 2018 #11
That's not very helpful, but thanks anyway. nt procon Jul 2018 #14
Person of Natural Whatever (PNW) Achilleaze Jul 2018 #7
Pacific North West. Doreen Jul 2018 #8
Oh... I never would have figured that regional acronym on my own. procon Jul 2018 #15
Thank you for the offer but I am misrable enough. Doreen Jul 2018 #23
Pacific Northwest. We're having a heat wave. Most of us don't have air conditioning. Shrike47 Jul 2018 #17
Once you get through this, install yourself a few of the big ceiling fans. Blue_true Jul 2018 #31
About six years ago, my wife and I finally sprang for air conditioning. Aristus Jul 2018 #61
I just got an air source heat pump to replace our AC NickB79 Jul 2018 #67
In Kansas in the early 60s, it was 103 when I walked home many times. demigoddess Jul 2018 #27
PNW, Pacific Northwest appalachiablue Jul 2018 #54
Sorry, PNW refers to Pacific Northwest. My home is in the very Northwest corner of Washington State. PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #62
If you have some skills and a bit of money lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #9
Ground loop! That's an interesting idea! PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #63
You would think we would be happy with the vitamin D. Doreen Jul 2018 #10
This isn't a heat wave. It's just Summer. maxsolomon Jul 2018 #12
Willamette Valley has been in the 90's. Not good, but at least no smoke (yet). Shrike47 Jul 2018 #19
81 right now in Seattle. 90 degrees prediction by Saturday. PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #28
Right, because it's largely unneccesary maxsolomon Jul 2018 #36
Seattle and the Bay Area, best summer weather. Blue_true Jul 2018 #33
Except it is 90 now. Again. This is not our old summer weather or even old heat waves of a couple suffragette Jul 2018 #43
We must be in different Seattles. My thermometer hit 87. nolabear Jul 2018 #51
when i was out at noon on wed, it was still 69 downtown maxsolomon Jul 2018 #57
Crazy, isn't it? I've been here 30+ years and it's very different the past 10. nolabear Jul 2018 #58
Thanks for the best wishes on the trout! PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #64
If all my trout go belly up, the bright side will be... PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #18
You have any idea of how much trout you have in the pond? nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #34
I have about 50 large trout from years past and PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #39
You have a good sized pond. Blue_true Jul 2018 #44
Yes, occasionally the pond freezes over in the winter. PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #45
So you already have one in the pond? Do you get into a boat and see whether fish are grouping Blue_true Jul 2018 #46
Sorry, I don't understand your question. The trout tend to congregate n PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #50
Ok, make sense. No better attractive device than food. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #52
Yes, what I have is a compressor in my garage. It runs 24/7. PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #65
90's here. Plants and trees are stressed. This isn't normal weather. jalan48 Jul 2018 #20
Yes, I'm pouring water on my Rhododendrons and Maples. PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #24
I have some supposedly drought tolerant plants that I have to water. jalan48 Jul 2018 #25
It's humidityFest here in New England. NutmegYankee Jul 2018 #21
123 at my house today. Coventina Jul 2018 #22
OMG. That's lethal. jalan48 Jul 2018 #26
Where are you? Phoenix maybe? Nt raccoon Jul 2018 #40
Yes. n/t Coventina Jul 2018 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue_true Jul 2018 #29
And in midwest, St. Louis MO, it's been relatively nice, ... SWBTATTReg Jul 2018 #30
114 in Tucson grantcart Jul 2018 #35
118 Mesa, AZ - OMG - asiliveandbreathe Jul 2018 #37
92 degrees MFM008 Jul 2018 #38
OMG! Take care! Look out for neighbors too! PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #41
I know MFM008 Jul 2018 #66
My daughter moved to Oregon to get away from hot Midwestern summers Cairycat Jul 2018 #42
In Medford been in 100's for weeks now marlakay Jul 2018 #48
Right? I'm working hard to keep the plants alive and am worshiping my little floor unit AC. nolabear Jul 2018 #49
Still 91 GP6971 Jul 2018 #53
Unfortunately, more to come. suffragette Jul 2018 #55
Does tRump have any conentration camps in the PNW? yortsed snacilbuper Jul 2018 #59

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
1. well, you gave us all your damn rain ....
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 05:48 PM
Jul 2018

here on the east coast it has been raining for a week. We were having a drought, and now we are having up to a foot of rain.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
56. Not only did we have yet another big storm tonight, but we just lost power here
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:39 AM
Jul 2018

And this is a fairly new area so that doesn't happen often, the last time was in 2011 during Hurricane Irene. Tonight's outage didn't last long, but I'm hoping that other areas are as lucky. There have been times recently when some areas have been out for a few days.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
60. Yeah, we usually get SOME rain in July! This is one of the longest dry spells I can remember!
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:59 PM
Jul 2018

Curious about your "all your damn rain" comment, I did a search to get exact numbers!

I live in a relatively unique, low rainfall area of Washington State due to geographic features.

Primarily because of being in the lee of the Olympic Mountain Range, there is a significant "rain shadow" effect.
Where I live gets an annual average of 24" of rain and 4" of snow. Besides referred to as "The Rain Shadow", this small area is also dubbed "The Banana Belt"! lol

Good luck to you and may the water spigot soon be turned off!


Aristus

(66,328 posts)
2. You and me both.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 05:49 PM
Jul 2018

I was speaking with a colleague about the heat this morning. We both agreed we couldn't wait for gray skies, cool winds, and pouring rain.

I commented: "There's something wrong with both of us, you know..."

I would have though things would be a little better out there on the islands, but I guess not.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
13. Yes, from what I read the worst heat is from Everett south.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:11 PM
Jul 2018

Usually we get a sea breeze here in the Islands but it’s perfectly still right now. I can occasionally smell smoke. I think it’s drifting up from Mason County. A bunch of suspicious fires there last week.

Response to PearliePoo2 (Reply #13)

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
3. The pond is 150 feet long, 100 feet wide and...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 05:51 PM
Jul 2018

at its max in the winter, 17 feet deep. It’s losing water due to evaporation at a rapid rate now. Hoping for cloudy skies!

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. What's a PNW?
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 05:54 PM
Jul 2018

Why can't trout withstand 70 degrees?

It's 107 here today. There's a small lake down the road where my DH sometimes goes to fish in the mornings and its stocked with trout that seem to manage the heat.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
6. You do know there's more than one species of trout, right?
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jul 2018

Also, the OP didn't say it's 70 degrees there, she said she likes the temperature to be 70 degrees. Clearly it's much hotter than that there now.

brush

(53,776 posts)
11. Right. The OP doesn't mention the temp. Guess it's a minor detail.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:06 PM
Jul 2018

It would help to know though.

procon

(15,805 posts)
15. Oh... I never would have figured that regional acronym on my own.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:17 PM
Jul 2018

Wanna trade for some desert heat in sunny you-know-where?

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
17. Pacific Northwest. We're having a heat wave. Most of us don't have air conditioning.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:21 PM
Jul 2018

It’s miserable and not what we’re used to. We’re gray for months every year.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
67. I just got an air source heat pump to replace our AC
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jul 2018

Amazing tech: it will cool just like an AC in summer, but come spring and fall I tap a button and it switches to pulling and condensing heat from the air!

It can heat my whole house down to 0F, below which I have both propane and a wood stove to heat with.

My utility company gave be a fat rebate and an off-peak meter for installing it, so it will save me thousands over it's 20-yr lifespan.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
27. In Kansas in the early 60s, it was 103 when I walked home many times.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:42 PM
Jul 2018

But in PNW we do not have air conditioners all over the place and few basements to cool off in. Our house has a cool basement but the majority of houses here are built without basements below ground level. IN other Word HOT.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
62. Sorry, PNW refers to Pacific Northwest. My home is in the very Northwest corner of Washington State.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:18 PM
Jul 2018

I can drive 5 miles from my house and actually see Victoria, British Columbia.

As for water temperatures, trout prefer water in the high 50s or lower 60s. They're pretty much belly up at 77F.
As the temperature rises, trout will go down to the bottom of the pond or lake where the water is colder.
My pond is pretty shallow so there's not much relief for them. It could be that the lake your DH fishes in has significant depth and that's where they will hang out in the heat.





lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
9. If you have some skills and a bit of money
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:00 PM
Jul 2018

consider using ground loop cooling system next to your pond.

I'd use a coil of copper tubing buried 4 to 6 feet deep (depending on average ambient summer temperatures under that much soil).

You don't want a large diameter tube or high rate of flow... just enough to give the pond water a chance to cool off under ground.

depends on the size of your fish pond too.

Also, how much shade can you create over the pond surface... outdoor patio umbrellas or a pool shade can provide some relief to the sun for the fish plus keep the water a bit colder. The only drawback is the amount of manual labor to raise and lower during wind events.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
10. You would think we would be happy with the vitamin D.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:03 PM
Jul 2018

Not being used to it and not being much prepared for it as a way of life takes the fun out of it.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
12. This isn't a heat wave. It's just Summer.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:09 PM
Jul 2018

Highs in the 80s, low 60s at night, no humidity, no fires. It wasn't even 70 in Downtown Seattle at noon today. 68.

FFS, we have the best Summer weather on Earth. Particularly this year.

Good luck with your fish pond.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
28. 81 right now in Seattle. 90 degrees prediction by Saturday.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:46 PM
Jul 2018

Seattle is the LEAST air conditioned metro area in the United States.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
36. Right, because it's largely unneccesary
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jul 2018

81 is perfect.

The only drawback to today is that I'm not outside.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
43. Except it is 90 now. Again. This is not our old summer weather or even old heat waves of a couple
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:21 PM
Jul 2018

hot days, then a quick return of westerly cooling breezes.

This is yet another year with above average heat. And for extended times.

Yes, it’s not as hot as other places, but far fewer of us have air conditioning.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
51. We must be in different Seattles. My thermometer hit 87.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:22 PM
Jul 2018

I agree we have the best summers in the country but we could use a good rain and about ten degrees off. It's supposed to break records this weekend.

Seafair should be a scorcher!

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
57. when i was out at noon on wed, it was still 69 downtown
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:13 PM
Jul 2018

it went up to 89 at my house by dinnertime.

the record we'll break is the hottest july. not the hottest temp for any given day.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
58. Crazy, isn't it? I've been here 30+ years and it's very different the past 10.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jul 2018

I bitch about the rain a lot so I don't hate the heat per se but the difference is disturbing. At the same time, we seem to be the most comfortable place in the country for the most part. My water bill is going to be nuts this month as I try to keep things alive though.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
64. Thanks for the best wishes on the trout!
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:27 PM
Jul 2018

They are still alive this morning!
I think if they can make it until Monday, we'll be ok. It's going to cool off back to more normal temps!

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
18. If all my trout go belly up, the bright side will be...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:21 PM
Jul 2018

the Eagles, Osprey and Turkey Vultures will have an “all you can eat” buffet.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
39. I have about 50 large trout from years past and
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:12 PM
Jul 2018

this spring I put in 200 baby Rainbow trout that were 5 to 7 inches. Right now I occasionally see a fish rise to take an insect. That’s good. Fingers crossed here! Hoping that the sprinkler introduces enough cool water to keep the pond from lethal warm water temperatures.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. You have a good sized pond.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:26 PM
Jul 2018

Have you considered putting several of the fountain type water aerators in it? The action of them cools the water in summer. You will need an electrician to help design the power feed to the pump. I assume that your pond does not freeze over during the winter.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
45. Yes, occasionally the pond freezes over in the winter.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:34 PM
Jul 2018

The aeration keeps an ice free circle! This is a nice ice free zone for ducks!

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
46. So you already have one in the pond? Do you get into a boat and see whether fish are grouping
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:46 PM
Jul 2018

around it?

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
50. Sorry, I don't understand your question. The trout tend to congregate n
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:20 PM
Jul 2018

near shore where they are used to getting fed.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
65. Yes, what I have is a compressor in my garage. It runs 24/7.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:38 PM
Jul 2018

I have buried poly pipe down to the pond and it's coupled to a weighted air line to a bladder type air dispenser that sits on the bottom.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
24. Yes, I'm pouring water on my Rhododendrons and Maples.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:31 PM
Jul 2018

My poor well pump is running non-stop. Sure hope it doesn’t burn out!

jalan48

(13,864 posts)
25. I have some supposedly drought tolerant plants that I have to water.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:36 PM
Jul 2018

We usually get a week of this weather and that's about it. We've had several already this summer and it's not even August which is usually the hottest month. It makes me wonder what kind of world we are leaving our grandchildren.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
21. It's humidityFest here in New England.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:25 PM
Jul 2018

And mid-Atlantic is re-building Noah's Ark. This weather pattern sucks!

Response to PearliePoo2 (Original post)

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
30. And in midwest, St. Louis MO, it's been relatively nice, ...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:14 PM
Jul 2018

we had the awful heat and heat indexes, and what seems like rain forever. Nice to have a break!

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
66. I know
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 06:45 AM
Jul 2018

My mom is in a nursing home in Puyallup, had air conditioning and fans and water.
I live close to the water.
Temp always cooler.

Cairycat

(1,706 posts)
42. My daughter moved to Oregon to get away from hot Midwestern summers
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:18 PM
Jul 2018

(well, okay, the cold and snowy winters too). But I kind of have to smile: tomorrow's predicted high in Eugene - 97. Here in NE Iowa - 74. I do note that it's less humid in Eugene than here. But, yeah, that heat isn't fun when you're not used to it. And I hope the heat doesn't lead to forest fires in the fall, like last year.

marlakay

(11,457 posts)
48. In Medford been in 100's for weeks now
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:16 PM
Jul 2018

and with air I can handle that, don't like it but can handle that, what I can't handle is being stuck in the house because I have the worst air quality in the whole nation right now!

I bought better masks for when I have to go out, but my poor golden retriever is not getting enough exercise. They need to make a indoor area for dogs besides classes where they don't get to run. I throw the ball down the hall but that doesn't do much. We have reservations starting next Wed for a week on the coast can't wait!

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
49. Right? I'm working hard to keep the plants alive and am worshiping my little floor unit AC.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:20 PM
Jul 2018

And we haven't even had big wildfire yet. The smoke last year nearly did me in, and I'm in the city! (Seattle)

GP6971

(31,146 posts)
53. Still 91
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 09:43 PM
Jul 2018

on the Pierce / Thurston County border. And I'm near the water. Thankfully I had central air put in when the house was built.

Bring back the clouds!!

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