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Brock Turner Appeals Rape Conviction With Argument He Only Wanted OutercourseA lawyer for convicted rapist Brock Turner attempted to overturn the former Stanford University swimmers assault conviction during an appellate court hearing in San Jose, California, on Tuesday.
Attorney Eric Multhaup argued to three appellate court justices that his client only wanted outercourse ― sexual contact while fully clothed, he explained ― not intercourse, The Mercury News of San Jose reported. Multhaup told the justices that Turner never intended to rape the woman, who was identified only as Jane Doe throughout the trial.
Turner filed an appeal to Californias 6th District Court of Appeal in December after being convicted in March 2016 of three felony sexual assault charges including attempted rape. At the time, his lawyers argued that the trial was a detailed and lengthy set of lies.
Now, Multhaup is trying to specifically overturn the felony charge of attempted rape. Mercury News reported that the panel of justices appeared skeptical of [Multhaups] argument.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brock-turner-appeals-rape-conviction-by-arguing-he-only-wanted-outercourse_us_5b588afae4b0fd5c73cabcc4
chowder66
(9,067 posts)Siwsan
(26,260 posts)As in "Is Outercourse the new Affluenze or just a fucking disgusting (ir)rationalization".
chowder66
(9,067 posts)brush
(53,776 posts)What the hell do his lawyers think this ridiculousness will accomplish?
mythology
(9,527 posts)Apparently their theory is he wouldn't have to register as a sex offender if he only molested her. Which if true is a loophole that should be closed.
irisblue
(32,971 posts)If you tap on the link, there is a long article, Turners picture, picture of the original judge who let him out after 3 months and many comments.
Solly Mack
(90,764 posts)People, some - and certain types - have always tried to claim if it wasn't a brutal rape with vaginal tearing and bruises over the body - then it wasn't really sexual assault...or that bad.
Dry-humping an unconscious person is sexual assault and it does make a person a sexual predator. So not even that argument changes anything.
But people who hate women have always argued that if it wasn't their idea of rape then is wasn't that bad.
Well, when they're not blaming the victim and they always seem to get around to both.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)The appeals court will be deciding on matters of law.
Better article that has more specific details on the appeal argument:
https://mv-voice.com/news/2018/07/24/appeals-court-hears-arguments-in-brock-turner-case
kcr
(15,315 posts)It says right in the article you linked that the judges rejected the argument that he was clothed, based on a Supreme Court ruling. In other words, this is going nowhere.
ck4829
(35,069 posts)Otherwise, it's sexual assault... like what Brock Turner did.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)...that would let him dry hump their leg???
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Journeyman
(15,031 posts)was to help her safely home, which for everyone's protection would involve the assistance of other people as soon as possible.
Seems something a Stanford student -- even one who's a jock -- could easily discern.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)Outercourse, my ass. My jaw literally dropped.