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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 09:56 AM Jul 2018

What do people think of Michael Cohen? Is he a former liar, now coming clean?

Last edited Fri Jul 27, 2018, 01:18 PM - Edit history (2)

It's hard to get a grasp on what is going on here.

If he knew that Donald Jr. told Donald Sr. about the meeting, did he tell that to Congress? It doesn't seem like he did.

Do we still think Cohen lied about visiting Prague and about paying Stormy Daniels out of his own pocket (and not being reimbursed for it)?

If he is now realizing the error of his past ways, why wouldn't he just agree to cooperate with Mueller and share everything with him?

Everyone in Trump-world seems to lie so easily (including Cohen, and especially Trump himself) that it's hard to sort out the truth.

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What do people think of Michael Cohen? Is he a former liar, now coming clean? (Original Post) oberliner Jul 2018 OP
I imagine they have cornered him with some pretty serious crimes. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #1
Yup. A rat in a trap is neither inherently honest or dishonest -- just desperate. Girard442 Jul 2018 #3
Think of Alec Guinness in The Bridge on the River Kwai. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2018 #2
He is a former and current liar, trying to save his own ass. Orsino Jul 2018 #4
Michael Cohen is a liar who understands his current predicament. Jim__ Jul 2018 #5
ROFL markses66 Jul 2018 #6
While a snake will shed its skin, it's still a snake. peekaloo Jul 2018 #7
Unlike Trump and Cohen good citizens don't routinely break the law. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #8
Every single day. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #9
Who was the liar ? DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #12
Even if Cohen was very honest there still needs hard proof on claim that Trump knew about the mee uponit7771 Jul 2018 #10
A corroborating witness would be helpful oberliner Jul 2018 #15
Don't mind me gratuitous Jul 2018 #11
Wasn't he a registered Democrat for many years? Roland99 Jul 2018 #13
Yes oberliner Jul 2018 #14
This is from Guiliani's interview on CNN, right? .99center Jul 2018 #16
Huh? oberliner Jul 2018 #17
My mistake. .99center Jul 2018 #19
No problem oberliner Jul 2018 #20
He and the orange wanker are birds of a feather. Tipperary Jul 2018 #18
"A dilemma! Him? Or me? Tough call! Him? Or me? Dunno. How to decide? struggle4progress Jul 2018 #21
It's impossible to slur the lying crooked mobbed up long time lying lawyer of dRump, Mc Mike Jul 2018 #22
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
1. I imagine they have cornered him with some pretty serious crimes.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 09:58 AM
Jul 2018

Self preservation. It's the Republican way.

The truth is not hard to figure out if it comes with mountains of evidence. We just aren't privy to all of it.

Girard442

(6,070 posts)
3. Yup. A rat in a trap is neither inherently honest or dishonest -- just desperate.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 10:05 AM
Jul 2018

It's reasonable to believe that Cohen can't find a lying strategy that has any hope of success.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
2. Think of Alec Guinness in The Bridge on the River Kwai.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 09:59 AM
Jul 2018
The Bridge on the River Kwai

He's having a "what have I done?" experience. He's been helping the Japanese build a bridge that will enable them to take and mistreat more prisoners and extend the war. He got so wrapped in up in seeing the trees (his engineering expertise) that he overlooked the forest (the war).

Cohen is not going to live forever. What will his legacy be?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
4. He is a former and current liar, trying to save his own ass.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 10:09 AM
Jul 2018

I'm not much interested in anything he says. The proof will either be in his documents and tapes, or it won't be credible.

The good thing is that we mostly just need him to answer the question: "Is this your signature?"

Jim__

(14,076 posts)
5. Michael Cohen is a liar who understands his current predicament.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 10:25 AM
Jul 2018

In his predicament, telling the truth is his best option. He knows that.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
13. Wasn't he a registered Democrat for many years?
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jul 2018

Perhaps the recordings were intentional to one day undo the diaper don?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. Yes
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 01:04 PM
Jul 2018

Cohen in a CNN appearance disclosed that he could not vote in the primary because he was not registered as a Republican.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
16. This is from Guiliani's interview on CNN, right?
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 01:13 PM
Jul 2018

You may want to edit your post with a link to the interview and give Guiliani credit for the quote.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
19. My mistake.
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jul 2018

I thought this was part of the transcript from Guiliani's attempt on CNN to discredit another witness.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
20. No problem
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 02:29 PM
Jul 2018

That Giuliani appearance was pathetic - I caught some of the highlights. Cuomo made the great point of how prosecutors always have people who have lied in the past put on the stand against other criminals - and, of course, not only does Rudy know that, but he himself has done it!

What a joke he is.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
22. It's impossible to slur the lying crooked mobbed up long time lying lawyer of dRump,
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 06:02 PM
Jul 2018

without it also being a slur of dRump.

Years and years of being his right hand lawyer, fixer. Cohen only had one and a half other clients, and had 14 old blackberries worth of data generated from his lawyering.

He knows where all dRump org's bodies are buried.

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