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Mon Jul 30, 2018, 07:46 PM

It's just math.





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Reply It's just math. (Original post)
kpete Jul 2018 OP
Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #1
saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #2
CatMor Jul 2018 #3
Towlie Jul 2018 #30
no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #4
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #11
progressoid Jul 2018 #21
D23MIURG23 Jul 2018 #23
no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #24
Takket Jul 2018 #5
lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #6
7962 Jul 2018 #10
Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #13
D23MIURG23 Jul 2018 #19
RockRaven Jul 2018 #7
blugbox Jul 2018 #29
bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #8
7962 Jul 2018 #9
progressoid Jul 2018 #22
dalton99a Jul 2018 #12
bitterross Jul 2018 #14
LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #16
cstanleytech Jul 2018 #15
JHB Jul 2018 #17
defacto7 Jul 2018 #18
0rganism Jul 2018 #20
Renew Deal Jul 2018 #25
Permanut Jul 2018 #26
lunasun Jul 2018 #27
Gothmog Jul 2018 #28

Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 07:48 PM

1. Like they know math figuring.

They can barely count money. dt is an Adderal addict.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 07:50 PM

2. Thanks kpete, this was funny.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 07:50 PM

3. God is really f**ked up.

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Response to CatMor (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:25 PM

30. Hitler was a vegetarian. Hitler was evil. Therefore, vegetarians are evil.

Or, in its more commonly seen form:

"Hitler was an atheist (he actually wasn't). Hitler was evil. Therefore, atheists are evil.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 07:54 PM

4. This is an exercise in bad logic. This kind of syllogism* to arrive at the truth of a matter

is patently false and used the first week of Logic 101 to illustrate how NOT to come to factual conclusions.


* An instance of a form of reasoning in which a conclusion is drawn (whether validly or not) from two given or assumed propositions (premises), each of which shares a term with the conclusion, and shares a common or middle term not present in the conclusion (e.g., all dogs are animals; all animals have four legs; therefore all dogs have four legs ).

Deductive reasoning as distinct from induction.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:20 PM

11. Yup. Was about to post about the obviously bad logical fallacy in idiot Bill Mitchell's tweet. . .nt

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:58 AM

21. Woosh.

That's the sound of your fancy pants liberal edukashun going over the heads of Mitchell and his followers.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:38 PM

23. Its actually a deductive syllogism with a missing premise.

I can fix it by adding the bolded premise:

P1: God favors America
P2: God favors everyone who favors America
P3: Donald Trump favors America
C: God favors Trump

The above syllogism proves that if premises 1 - 3 are true then the conclusion has to be true. In fact you don't need premise 1. I included it because Mr. Bill included it, and I think he meant for premise 2 to follow from it (it doesn't).

Now that the syllogism is corrected the problem is merely that every premise is ridiculous gibberish with no basis in reality. Premise 2 is especially bad because even if you believed premise 1 as an article of faith, there is no reason for premise 2 to follow from it, or to be true in general. I might favor Michigan State University, but that doesn't mean I would favor everyone else who felt the same way. I wouldn't favor Larry Nassar or John Engler if it turned out that they also favored MSU.

This whole thing smacks of some cheap apologist trying to be William Lane Craig and doing a really bad job of it.

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Response to D23MIURG23 (Reply #23)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:32 PM

24. I'm impressed with your analysis.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 07:54 PM

5. hahahahaha that's great!!!!!!!!!!

kicked!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 08:19 PM

6. Bad Math

bad symbolic logic actually

He is trying to use "favors" as "equals" whereas the word is more of a "contains"

So his stmt is A is contained by B
C is contained by B

Therefore A and C are either equal or a proper subset of each other (A is contained by C)

But that is demonstrably false. One can easily draw a Venn diagram that shows B with both A and C as distinct subsets or overlapping subsets.

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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:19 PM

10. Annnnnnnnnnd I'm out!!

 

Never was good at that stuff

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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #6)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:24 PM

13. Worse than that.


Trump adores ice cream.
Hitler adores ice cream.
Trump adores Hitler.

It's neither containment (subsets) nor logical inference. It's not deductive nor inductive.

It's RubleCon emotionality.

Putin grabbed a pussy.
Trump grabbed a pussy.
Putin grabbed Trump's pussy.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:05 AM

19. Penguines wear black. Melania wears black. Therefore Melania is a penguin. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 08:23 PM

7. The level of derp in some people is beyond parody. If someone had tweeted that 1st tweet as a joke,

it would have gone over like a lead balloon. I'm honestly surprised people who have this much trouble with logic and cause-and-effect survive to be middle-aged. Between gravity and electricity alone something should have gone horrible wrong for this guy before today if this is representative of his brain processes.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:14 PM

29. I just had to comment to say I love your post!

Your words are exactly how I would have phrased my own response, and this being representative of your brain processes... I approve!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 08:59 PM

8. It ain't even math. It's invalid logic.

It's instantiation, but without tangible facts for testing.

Simply, Baloney!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:18 PM

9. I first read that as "its just meth". Whoops!

 

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Response to 7962 (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:59 AM

22. Potato Potahto

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:21 PM

12. You love guns, your enemy loves guns, therefore you love your enemy? FAIL

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:25 PM

14. God clearly does not favor America.

Not sure where dufus got that idea. Oh right, God is a white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, Heterosexual, Male. Therefore, he must love America.

ON EDIT:

I'd like to remind him that Mexico and Canada are in America too.

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Response to bitterross (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:23 PM

16. Yeah...funny how you guys scooped that one up for yourselves.

There isn't one other South, Central, or North American country that refers to themselves as "America" only the USA. Granted The United States of America doesn't sound that catchy. But come on, you could've invented some other name, maybe taken from your native heritage, like we did in Canada. Even the old USSR reverted back to their old name Russia.

Reminds me a bit of how IBM and Microsoft appropriated the term "personal computer" or PC in the computer world.

Oh well, that's ok, you can have it. Its not that important in the grand scheme of things.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:17 PM

15. So Bill, if God hates adultery God must hate Trump right?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:34 PM

17. It's not even math. It's fallacious logic, which means it's not even logic.

It is shit-for-brains dumbassery, so he does have that.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:02 PM

18. Human devolution... the proof.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:11 AM

20. lol something faulty in that syllogism

it's just towering idiocy

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:33 PM

25. Bill Mitchell knows that what he's typing is not true as he types it

Bill Mitchell knows that Trump doesn't favor America.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:50 PM

26. Wait, I'm getting a different conclusion.,

- Trump IS God.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:54 PM

27. But it's not math

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:01 PM

28. I love the Hoarse Whisperer

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