Currently in San Diego (week vacation). Discovered something that makes me very sad.

[Coventina]

When my husband and I arrived at our rental, there was a note on the fridge that said that the San Diego city council just passed a rule/law that forbids short-term rentals, effective next July 1.

She states in her note that this will ultimately make her have to sell the property, as long-term rentals are much harder to get. (The house is separated from the beach by only a walkway).

In her note, she said the movement was by residents who want the community all to themselves, to create, in essence and "economically gated" community.

All I can say is, as a "Zonie" (the local term for Arizonans who visit SD in the summer to escape), I will stop coming to SD if this thing actually happens. There are VERY FEW hotels on the beach, and their prices will go up so high there's no way I could come here for a week.

I'm not going to come for a week to stay in their hotel district, which is miles away. The beaches don't have anything like adequate parking.

I wonder how SD will like it when all the tens of thousands of Zonies stop coming? I guess the uber rich won't care. They'll just enjoy their empty beaches. But all the people who depend on the beach economy will suffer.

*grr*

On Edit: Forgot to mention the note was from the property owner, who lives in Ca.

[Recursion]

1. Now hold on there

She states in her note that this will ultimately make her have to sell the property, as long-term rentals are much harder to get.

Long-term rentals at the level of money she wants are harder to get. These short-term rental bans are an attempt to keep short term rentals from eating up a lot of the housing stock. The city is trying to keep rents down.

[Coventina]

2. Well, I'm sorry I didn't type out a duplicate of the note!

She does say that she will try to do long-term rentals, but that it is much more difficult to find people who want to live there longer term. It's not an easy place to commute in and out of.

This is not about rent control, this is about eliminating a type of renting situation. If they wanted to keep rents down, they could regulate the short term and the long term rentals both.

[FreeState]

3. San Diegan with an AirBNB here - she left a lot out of that note

When my husband and I arrived at our rental, there was a note on the fridge that said that the San Diego city council just passed a rule/law that forbids short-term rentals, effective next July 1.

Not true. If you live on the property you can rent it (even if you live in a different building on the same property). It appears where you are staying is someone who purchased a home for the sole purpose of using it for short term rentals.

In her note, she said the movement was by residents who want the community all to themselves, to create, in essence and "economically gated" community.

WTF - there is nothing like this going on - this is fantasy land talk. That will never happen, businesses would not allow it to happen.

See: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/tourism/sd-fi-airbnb-mission-beach-20180717-story.html

[Coventina]

10. As I said above, I didn't quote the entire note.

It is true that she lives nearby, but not on this particular property.

Is that evil, somehow?

Well, time will tell on what the effects of this will be.

As for myself, it looks like I will probably start taking my vacations elsewhere.

[FreeState]

12. Not seeing the note, from what your saying its not a truthful representation of what is happening

Not seeing the note, from what your saying its not a truthful representation of what is happening from what you have shared.

Its not evil at all. I have a rental I dont live in, I rent it month to month with no problem. San Diego has around a 2% vacancy rate - its extremely easy to rent here. Most people want short term in the beach area because they make more, not because they cant find the renters.

[Coventina]

14. OK, please let me know what actually IS happening, because

the articles I've read, including the one you linked to, don't seem to contradict what she said in her note.

[snowybirdie]

4. Perhaps

people who thought they were buying a private home found that constant neighborhood turnover with many partiers vacationing and causing a ruckus were too much? Been there, done that. The homeowners want peace and freedom from those who don't care about what they do in a neighborhood.

[FreeState]

5. In San Diego the vast majority of those complaining are new residents

Its the equivalent of moving next to a bar and complaining there is a bar there. Anyone in the beach areas know what its like, its been that way for a very long time.

[Bantamfancier]

6. Or like building a house on 5 acres in the country.

And then complaining about the farmer spreading manure.

[FreeState]

8. Exactly n/t

[Coventina]

13. My favorite example in Phoenix is people who buy next to Luke Air Force Base.

And then complain about the airplane noise.



They have been trying for years to shut down the base. Seriously.
Even though they chose to live there.

[snowybirdie]

9. So?

We bought a lovely cottage on a beach. Surrounded by five similar other cottages. Most owners were related to each other A family friendly compound. That's why we purchased there. A year or so later, one by one new owners started short term rentals. Partying vacationers made weekend sleeping impossible. Trash was left all over with overloaded bins full of bottles. One renter knocked on my door demanding clean towels. They drove us out of a lovely home we paid a lot of money for. We miss it still. Good for San Diego!

[Coventina]

11. So, it appears you are the living embodiment of FreeStates' point.

You moved to a beach expecting that you would be isolated in your "family compound".

[snowybirdie]

15. No

Please don't label people. If you define a compound as a neighborhood where folks like to live their lives without the disruption of those who have no ties whatsoever and who forget other's rights, that's your choice. But it lacks civility

[Coventina]

16. I apologize, I misread "family friendly compound" as

"family compound."

So I do apologize for that.

I would argue, though, that use of the term "compound" indicates a desire to be exclusive rather than inclusive.

[snowybirdie]

19. We had a bad experience.

Not everyone does. I guess my point is the bad make it harder for the good

[moriah]

20. I pity the fool who would have dared to knock on my door for new towels.

I'm not a mean person, but when I get angry my mouth gets away from me.

"Towels? I'll be happy to go to *insert store* and BUY you some, with your money, but not until all this trash is GONE. This isn't a fucking hotel and I'm not the fucking manager, there's no maintenance crew to pick up after your parties. Clean up your goddamn shit."

Would have been the luckiest they got off.

[Coventina]

7. Your name makes me laugh. "Snowbird" is a term we Arizonans use

For the people who come to OUR communities in the winter, just as we Zonies go to SD in the summer.

However, the difference is that, aside from the added traffic, we are actually pretty happy to host them, because ultimately, they are a benefit to us.

I've been coming here (Mission Beach) for years, and there has never been anything like a rukus. It gets busy, for sure as EVERY BEACH COMMUNITY DOES, but sound, traffic, littering, and other violations are strictly enforced. I don't come here to party, I come here to relax, just the same as all the other folks do.

[snowybirdie]

17. I guess

it depends on who rents in a place. Respectful people can be a great way to make new friends. However our experience with tequila filled vacationers who partied all night wasn't positive.

[TeamPooka]

18. Come to us in Ventura county California we welcome you

Come to us in Ventura county California we welcome you With open arms and beautiful beaches

[Coventina]

21. Good to know!

Thanks!