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Former prosecutor appearing on "The Beat" says Trump has moved from being a subject (Original Post) triron Aug 2018 OP
It does appear that the noose is tightening. tonyt53 Aug 2018 #1
tick ... tick ... It's Mueller Time .... erlewyne Aug 2018 #19
Well.. Hallelujah, Finally! Cha Aug 2018 #2
That's funny, Trump never acts guilty. dubyadiprecession Aug 2018 #3
lol Hamlette Aug 2018 #12
He knew he was a target long before mueller did unblock Aug 2018 #4
The same person doesn't think Mueller is negotiating with the Trump lawyers anymore triron Aug 2018 #5
I don't think Mueller ever was negotiating with them. janx Aug 2018 #6
He has to negotiate if he wants to talk to Trump and he knows it. former9thward Aug 2018 #7
Well if he's just moved from "subject" to "target", Mueller's never going to get a conversation hughee99 Aug 2018 #8
True, but I have never believed the never ending rumors about this investigation. former9thward Aug 2018 #9
This information most likely came from the WH, which does leak, continually. That doesn't mean pnwmom Aug 2018 #10
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Aug 2018 #13
re: "Mr. Mueller would have to inform Trump's legal team" - Are you sure? thesquanderer Aug 2018 #14
As per your article, he is not legally required to but grantcart Aug 2018 #15
:) Well, routine and procedure are shields and weapons Hortensis Aug 2018 #20
Trump's past behavior might predispose Mueller not to notify. triron Aug 2018 #16
Thanks for the clarifying last statement. I did not know that and that is not what the prosecutor triron Aug 2018 #17
Mueller has offered to reduce the questions by half More_Cowbell Aug 2018 #11
Given his track record with the truth..... Red Mountain Aug 2018 #18
republican TRAITORS to America targeted by truth Achilleaze Aug 2018 #21

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
19. tick ... tick ... It's Mueller Time ....
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:16 PM
Aug 2018

Mueller is not panicking ... Trump is.

Take Mueller for his word ... he will keep it.

But I'm anxious ... a hate suspense (my weakness because of impatience).

EW

triron

(22,007 posts)
5. The same person doesn't think Mueller is negotiating with the Trump lawyers anymore
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 06:39 PM
Aug 2018

for the same reason. Another reason I don't believe the stories today about Mueller wanting to talk
to Trump.

janx

(24,128 posts)
6. I don't think Mueller ever was negotiating with them.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 06:42 PM
Aug 2018

"Negotiate" is a word that the Rudes likes to use, but I doubt Mueller is doing or has done any such thing.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
8. Well if he's just moved from "subject" to "target", Mueller's never going to get a conversation
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 07:00 PM
Aug 2018

with him.

former9thward

(32,023 posts)
9. True, but I have never believed the never ending rumors about this investigation.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 07:09 PM
Aug 2018

And so far that has not failed me. We are told over and over again "Mueller doesn't leak". But then we are told "unnamed sources" have given information which could only come from Mueller. BS.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
10. This information most likely came from the WH, which does leak, continually. That doesn't mean
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:04 PM
Aug 2018

we should believe it.

H2O Man

(73,559 posts)
13. Respectfully disagree.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:19 PM
Aug 2018

If Trump has indeed transitioned from a subject to a target, Mr. Mueller would have to inform Trump's legal team. If it has been leaked by anyone, it would be Trump's team.

Admittedly, I have not seen the show in question (yet). But I know that Paul Butler explained in July on MSNBC why there is some reason to suspect that this has happened -- though not claiming it definitely had. If Trump was a target now, that prevents him from being subpoenaed to testify in front of the grand jury. It would not, however, prevent him from being interviewed by prosecutors.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
15. As per your article, he is not legally required to but
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:40 PM
Aug 2018

It is policy to do so unless it would compromise a source.

Mueller would almost certainly notify as he is a slave to routine and procedure.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. :) Well, routine and procedure are shields and weapons
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 06:07 AM
Aug 2018

in this investigation. After all, neither the president and executive branch (including its attorney general), nor congress working separately and together, have been able to stop the routines and procedures of justice from grinding on.

Will Mueller feel a need to inform, though? Trump and congress have committed many huge ethical breaches, and probable legal ones as well, and forced many irregularities into the investigation. Informing may not be considered necessary or desirable under these very extraordinary circumstances. As Triron suggests.

But one thing we do know, of course, is that Mueller doesn't ever have to interview Trump. Mueller only has to offer Trump the chance to be interviewed so he can speak up for himself. And Mueller has already checked that box repeatedly and very due-diligently.

triron

(22,007 posts)
16. Trump's past behavior might predispose Mueller not to notify.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:50 PM
Aug 2018

Trump would probably immediately fire Rosenstein and get rid of Mueller.

triron

(22,007 posts)
17. Thanks for the clarifying last statement. I did not know that and that is not what the prosecutor
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:56 PM
Aug 2018

who made the remarks, I alluded to, said. That was my mistake.

Red Mountain

(1,735 posts)
18. Given his track record with the truth.....
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:58 PM
Aug 2018

I doubt much is expected from this 'interview'.

He'll probably refuse to answer or not recall most questions.

It's a formality and also a fishing expedition. Never know what he will bite.

Final phase.

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