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red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 06:24 PM Aug 2018

Manafort Trial Judge Wants The Lawyers' Eye-Rolling To Stop

Talking Points Memo
August 1, 2018


ALEXANDRIA. Va. (AP) -- The federal judge in Paul Manafort's financial fraud trial is trying to place limits on the court proceedings, warning lawyers not to roll their eyes at him or to introduce irrelevant evidence.

U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis lll pressed prosecutors to limit their use of an extensive trove of evidence, saying that some documents and photographs were not relevant to charges that Manafort tried to hide millions of dollars in income on his tax returns.

At one point in the trial's second day, Ellis also said he was told that attorneys on both sides had been seen rolling their eyes after leaving the bench or in response to his rulings.
The Lawyer's facial expressions, Ellis said, appeared to show them thinking "why do we have to put up with this idiot judge?'

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/manafort-trial-judge-lawyers-eye-rolling

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Manafort Trial Judge Wants The Lawyers' Eye-Rolling To Stop (Original Post) red dog 1 Aug 2018 OP
I am so sad this isn't televised. The judge sounds like such a character. Glimmer of Hope Aug 2018 #1
This judge sounds a little flakey. dameatball Aug 2018 #2
I agree red dog 1 Aug 2018 #4
Bravo!! :-) nt babylonsister Aug 2018 #3
Here comes the judge 2golddogs Aug 2018 #5
I do it too kcr Aug 2018 #11
He is also not allowing the prosecutors to show all the evidence of how lavishly BigmanPigman Aug 2018 #6
When you don't declare all your income and then spend more than you declare... eleny Aug 2018 #7
+ 1 red dog 1 Aug 2018 #14
I remember an old military judge - TomSlick Aug 2018 #8
Sounds like the judge wants to be the star of this drama Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #9
and as said before on here someplace.....he makes me very nervous..... a kennedy Aug 2018 #10
+ 1 red dog 1 Aug 2018 #15
K for a DUer who likes this judge!1 UTUSN Aug 2018 #12
Hey judge, when your grandstanding ceases, the eye rolling will cease. oasis Aug 2018 #13
This sounds like something from The Onion, or Andy Borowitz red dog 1 Aug 2018 #16
Eye-rolling, smirking, various facial expressions: things that annoy judges onenote Aug 2018 #17
That may be true, however, red dog 1 Aug 2018 #18

BigmanPigman

(51,610 posts)
6. He is also not allowing the prosecutors to show all the evidence of how lavishly
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 06:56 PM
Aug 2018

he lived. They need to make the point that even though he made $ 60 million, spent $1 million on suits in 4 years, etc he was greedy and didn't pay taxes since he feels he is above the law. This is part of their case and the judge is stopping the prosecutors. He sounds pretty biased to me.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
7. When you don't declare all your income and then spend more than you declare...
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:32 PM
Aug 2018

... seems relevant to me that the prosecution would try to show how much you spent back then. that goes hand in hand with his bank accounts and money transfers.

I have to guess that they weren't just trying to bias the jury against Manafort because of his wealth. But wanted to prove how much income he had. Hopefully they got that point across well enough and the judge only figured enough was enough. If he's being biased I hope the prosecutors have a way of letting the judge know that he's on thin ice with his putting the breaks on their approach.

TomSlick

(11,100 posts)
8. I remember an old military judge -
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:53 PM
Aug 2018

well, as a squeaky-new lawyer, I thought he was old - that had a rule: "Rule for the Defendant and find for the Prosecution."

It might be that the Judge is being careful to keep an appeal-proof record.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
9. Sounds like the judge wants to be the star of this drama
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:19 PM
Aug 2018

Judges don't normally inject themselves into what the prosecutor's decide to use as evidence as long as it is not totally irrelevant to the case. I think he wants a little press.

a kennedy

(29,673 posts)
10. and as said before on here someplace.....he makes me very nervous.....
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:22 PM
Aug 2018

IT ISN’T ABOUT THE JUDGE......

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
16. This sounds like something from The Onion, or Andy Borowitz
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 05:12 PM
Aug 2018

I have never before heard of a judge telling both prosecutors and defense attorneys to
"stop rolling their eyes"

onenote

(42,714 posts)
17. Eye-rolling, smirking, various facial expressions: things that annoy judges
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 05:22 PM
Aug 2018

Most of the time, a judge will let it go. But it's not unheard of for a judge to call out lawyers for such behavior.


https://www.upi.com/Judge-warns-attorneys-in-Anthony-trial/53581309706855/

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
18. That may be true, however,
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 07:34 PM
Aug 2018

in that case, the defense attorney obviously stepped over the line when he "loudly told jurors that [the prosecutor] was a 'laughing guy'," as the prosecutor barely hid a smile."

Also, more importantly, in this case, the judge "pressed prosecutors to limit their use of an extensive trove of evidence"....WTF?

Perhaps Robert Mueller NEEDED "an extensive trove of evidence" to make sure his case against Manafort was solid?

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