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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 07:36 PM Aug 2018

"Obamacare has been ruining this country for 17 years"

Yes, he said that.

I'm not interested in the wrong part. Trump doesn't make things up, he mixes things up. Somebody recently told him about something that's been going on for 17 years. The question is who and what.

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"Obamacare has been ruining this country for 17 years" (Original Post) Recursion Aug 2018 OP
His dementia is progressing vlyons Aug 2018 #1
Maybe someone should just tell him the wall was built 9 years ago and hope for the best. dameatball Aug 2018 #2
trDump has strangled ObamaCare to death... magicarpet Aug 2018 #3
Naw, Repubs did that... Wounded Bear Aug 2018 #6
Oh... I am sorry... I thought I read otherwise... if I could only locate it.... magicarpet Aug 2018 #16
More info trDump is damaging Obamacare... magicarpet Aug 2018 #17
He mixes and makes stuff up Orangepeel Aug 2018 #4
Does he think "Obamacare" is an alternate term for "War on Terror"? What else matches 17 years? RockRaven Aug 2018 #5
I can't think of anything else (nt) Recursion Aug 2018 #8
Perhaps NCLB? jcgoldie Aug 2018 #18
Could've maybe just meant to say 7 years? oberliner Aug 2018 #7
Or he confused years with people (aren't there 17 people on the Mueller team?) fierywoman Aug 2018 #9
of course jcgoldie Aug 2018 #19
What I love about them, apart from their obvious passion, is that they're clearly wicked smart! fierywoman Aug 2018 #23
"Obamacare for 17 years", "17 angry Democrats" BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #10
(wow!!! ... great minds & all that -- and in the exact same minute !!!) fierywoman Aug 2018 #11
Good old-fashioned JINX!!! BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #12
I think you two may have a point Recursion Aug 2018 #13
IMHO BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #15
Maybe he saw a copy of "17" magazine DFW Aug 2018 #21
LOL BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #22
Perhaps he overheard it in line at the grocery store, while trying to dig out his ID to buy food? The Genealogist Aug 2018 #14
"17" is supposed to signal a clue being dropped to the Qanon group. salin Aug 2018 #20

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
3. trDump has strangled ObamaCare to death...
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 07:44 PM
Aug 2018

.... ever since he came on board... it is no wonder it is gasping for breath.

Where is the better/much cheaper trDump care he promised America ? Is he waiting for Mexico to pay for that too ?

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
6. Naw, Repubs did that...
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 07:51 PM
Aug 2018

Trump doesn't really care, other than rhetoric for his rallies.

It's Repubs in Congress that are starving it.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
16. Oh... I am sorry... I thought I read otherwise... if I could only locate it....
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:57 PM
Aug 2018

(begin snip)

The Trump administration said Saturday that it is temporarily halting billions of dollars of payments designed to help insurers meet the Affordable Care Act requirement that they provide coverage regardless of whether a person is healthy or sick.

The administration said it was withholding $10.4 billion in the so-called "risk adjustment" payments, citing a district court ruling from earlier this year in New Mexico. While the administration says it is required to stop payments because of the court decision, insurers say the move could result in higher premiums for millions of individuals and small businesses.

(end snip) - more at link below...

https://www.npr.org/2018/07/08/627042776/trump-administration-freezes-payments-required-by-the-affordable-care-act

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
17. More info trDump is damaging Obamacare...
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 08:15 AM
Aug 2018

(begin snip)

An office that is key to evaluating and implementing U.S. health care policy has been repeatedly pushing out bad information to aid Trump's attack on Obamacare.

Trump administration officials running a key office within the health department have been caught manipulating studies and reports in an effort to undermine Obamacare, support the administration’s anti-refugee stance, and push an anti-abortion agenda.
(end snip)

More at link,
https://shareblue.com/trump-health-and-human-services-aspe-health-care-lies-fake-reports-data/

RockRaven

(14,974 posts)
5. Does he think "Obamacare" is an alternate term for "War on Terror"? What else matches 17 years?
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 07:48 PM
Aug 2018

What else started in '01?

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
10. "Obamacare for 17 years", "17 angry Democrats"
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:11 PM
Aug 2018

(previously "13 angry Democrats" )

Is there something with the #17 that suddenly got lodged into the comb-over for some reason?

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
15. IMHO
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:36 PM
Aug 2018

It's been "advanced" for some time. The off-script rambling word salad of disjointed utterances that suddenly stop short, pivot to a completely different subject, then eventually come back to the initial subject, have been going on for several years now.

August 17th is a Friday. I wonder if that is when he will "officially" go on vacation (outside of his weekly vacations at his resorts).

DFW

(54,405 posts)
21. Maybe he saw a copy of "17" magazine
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 08:25 AM
Aug 2018

And he got turned on by some swimwear ads?

(I'm assuming there still is a 17 magazine and that they run swimwear ads)

BumRushDaShow

(129,096 posts)
22. LOL
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 09:02 AM
Aug 2018

Yeah, that could be it too. No one "17" would be caught dead with that magazine (that age group used to prefer Cosmopolitan although nowadays they have the internet)... so 17 would be the 'zine for the 'tween set whose age he most behaves like.

salin

(48,955 posts)
20. "17" is supposed to signal a clue being dropped to the Qanon group.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 08:25 AM
Aug 2018

Whether he means to do it, or not (guessing the latter) - they have certainly been 'baking' the crumb/message into some crazy thread to their muddled conspiracies.

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