Obstruction of justice bombshell will explode before midterms

[honest.abe]

From The Hill..

Why is President Trump escalating his attacks against special counsel counsel Robert Mueller, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, the Department of Justice, the FBI and the free press to a fever pitch in recent days?

The reason is that the odds are very high that Mueller will offer a declarative public statement before the midterm elections, and very likely before Labor Day, that the president is guilty of obstruction of justice.

The Mueller declaration of obstruction of justice could be issued in the form of a letter to Congress and may or may not ultimately be issued in the form of an indictment if he believes that the Trump situation creates extraordinary circumstances that warrant his seeking approval for a formal indictment.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/400237-obstruction-of-justice-bombshell-will-explode-before-midterms

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Sounds right to me. The question is what will the Republicans in congress do.

[randr]

1. Republicons in Congress will do nothing

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Trump will rally Trumpets over the issue

[honest.abe]

2. The evidence may be too overwhelming for them to ignore.

We shall see.

[Cha]

3. We all fervently HOPE

so, abe!

[Kablooie]

7. Trump will say it's all fake...

And no matter how rock solid the evidence is his base will reject it and believe him.
Then any Republican who acts against Trump will lose their seat in Congress, guaranteed.

No I don't think it's possible for evidence to convict Trump in the eyes of his cult worshippers and therefore no Republican lawmakers either.

[Blue_true]

33. It does not matter what Trump's base believes or what Trump claims.

Or even what republicans in Congress do. If the information from Mueller is compelling, it hurts Trump and republicans with democratic voters and independent voters. The percentages in polls from independent voters are starting to near those of democrats, if information from Mueller push those numbers to equal, republicans are in for an electoral bloodbath.

The situation will be similar to 2006. In 2005, after Bush was reelected, republicans pushed really hard on abortion restrictions and the Terry Sciavo life suport debate down in Florida. Independents began to mirror democrats in polls and in 2006, republicans were hammered at the polls.

[randr]

17. If evidence were presented for treason it may be different

He has already inoculated his minions against obstruction charges

[Pluvious]

29. That fact GOP blocked funding election security tells us exactly what they'd do: JACK FUCKING SHIT

We know them by their actions.

They are complicit.

They've sold out their country.

[Cha]

4. So trump knows it's coming and he

must be suffering.. he needs to suffer MOAR.. like he's made the KIDS he Kidnapped and their Parents suffer

[NanceGreggs]

5. "odds are very high that Mueller will offer ...

... a declarative public statement before the midterm elections, and very likely before Labor Day, that the president is guilty of obstruction of justice."

Not a chance.

[Recursion]

8. Agreed

If anything Mueller's going to wait for the outcome of the midterms to see if a full report is even worth making.

[honest.abe]

11. Are you serious? He has to submit a full report..

considering the gravity of the situation and money, time snd effort put into this.

[Recursion]

23. The contents of the report will depend greatly on who is getting it

That's just reality. If there's no point building an impeachment case he won't do that.

[honest.abe]

25. I think he has to release a report and make recommendations before the elections.

There is simply too much at stake here. There are already signs of Russian interference in the midterms. I dont think he can wait until after the elections.. it might be too late.

[Blue_true]

34. I agree with you. My guess is Mueller releases something definitive.

The stakes are way too high and I think Mueller and Rosenstein realize that. If republicans take the midterms, we have no country left. My guess is something comes out in mid to late September.

[NanceGreggs]

38. Have to disagree with you.

Mueller is a meticulous, by-the-book investigator and his report will be thorough and fulsome regardless of who its recipients will be.

He's not the type who, after all of this effort and hard work, will do a half-assed job of it under any circumstances - nor would he even consider altering or abridging one word of his final report.

I've worked with lawyers like Mueller - they do what they do, and they never change their own high standards of perfection and completeness.

I guarantee you that if someone told Mueller that not a single person was ever going to see his final work product, he'd still produce the same report as he would if a million people were going to see it.

That may not be the reality where others are concerned - but for men like Mueller, you do something right or you don't sign-on to do it in the first place.

[honest.abe]

10. Which part?

The timimg?

[duforsure]

6. There will be indictments

And of republican members in Congress, and more exposing trump as probably broke and video's of abuse against others. His number is almost up , and republicans are scared to death , and ready to turn on him soon. He's getting much worse, and more unstable,and it will become clear to them he cannot stay in office anymore. Many in Congress I think will be in deep trouble for their russian and putin ties, and hiding money they received from him.

[Pachamama]

9. I'm hoping before the end of August

[Blue_true]

35. I am guessing mid to late September, after the second Manafort trial. nt

[DeminPennswoods]

12. Expect indictments of Americans for conspiracy

Honestly, I expect there will be indictments of Americans who conspired with Russia/Wikileaks to throw the election to Trump in 2016 before Labor Day, too.

[The Blue Flower]

13. The Dusty Rhoads moment is inevitable

In the past, the incapacity of presidents--FDR and Wilson come to mind--was hidden from the public. In this case, the incapacity is mental and is getting alarmingly worse with the entire world to witness. For someone so totally absorbed, he has no real self-awareness. He will lose the support of his rabid followers, and he will do it to himself.

[Blue_true]

36. He won't lose his rabid followers. Don't count on that.

He will likely lose independents and conservative democrats, that will be enough for us.

[Squinch]

14. I'm guessing march of next year.

[marble falls]

15. What will the Republicans in congress do? Panic. Half for Trump, half against.

[oberliner]

16. From the author of: "Hillary Clinton Will Win by a Landslide Against Donald Trump"

Here's what he wrote in June of 2016:

I try to minimize election predictions—especially long before the voting on election day—but I consider this prediction one of the easiest I have ever made.

Hillary Clinton will win by a landslide against Donald Trump. I expect her to win 46 states, and if I am wrong, it is equally likely she will win more than 46 states in November, rather than less.

FBI Director James Comey will announce that he is not recommending a criminal prosecution in the Clinton email case, which will give her a tremendous boost. To understand the full magnitude of Clinton’s coming victory consider the news over the last week, which is a sneak preview of the future.

After Trump attacked the judge in the case against him about Trump University, falsely saying the judge is a “Mexican” in terms that even some conservatives and Republicans condemned as racist, virtually every senior Republican across the landscape of the national GOP harshly criticized Trump’s attacking the judge.

(This is Brent Budowsky)

[honest.abe]

18. That mght had happened...

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had it not been for Russian interference among other things.

We all thought, including Trump, that she would win. A perfect storm of events changed all that.

[oberliner]

19. 46 states?

[honest.abe]

20. Yeah, that's a stretch and a bit of hyperbole on his part..

but the general notion that she would have easily won was not.

[oberliner]

21. Yes, I definitely thought she would win easily

I guess my point is that this writer has made predictions in very definitive ways (i.e. this will happen) that turned out to be completely wrong, so I think that is worth considering when looking at his current predictions presented with similar confidence.

[honest.abe]

22. Point taken.

But his points in the article seem sound to me.

[oberliner]

30. I think he might wait until after midterms

But we shall soon find out!

[BSdetect]

24. If nothing happens well before Nov we should expect some horrible reaction from rwnutjobs after Nov.

Should the drumph continue in office after Nov there will be really disturbing acts of hatred.

Its very bad now.

Children in cages? This is where we are already.

Mueller must have enough evidence already to charge drumph with treason and other crimes.

[honest.abe]

26. Indeed. Its only going to worse and worse.

I think Mueller has to come out with something significant soon or it may be too late.

[Timewas]

27. Not

They already have sufficient evidence to impeach the asshole why would more of the same make any difference

[Hoyt]

28. It's obvious and has been for some time. Sadly, don't think obstruction will bring trump down.

Maybe it will add to some of the other things he's done, but obstruction or even perjury is not going to touch trump.

President Obama would have been lynched long ago if he had done any of trump's junk. Fortunately, he was the cleanest Prez in history.

[precient]

31. What will the Republicans do?

Not a single thing unless "it's starting to look a lot like treason."

Many of the representatives are politicians without a party. Unless Trump endorses them, the base won't show up. If they accept his endorsement, they have to defend him.

They've earned their agony.

[Scurrilous]

32. K&R

[Garrett78]

37. I'm skeptical to say the least.

While I think there will continue to be indictments, I wouldn't expect any sort of 'report' from Mueller anytime soon. Far less complicated investigations have taken several years to complete.