General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsOhio Special Election Shows a Blue Wave Coming
https://politicalwire.com/2018/08/08/ohio-special-election-shows-a-blue-wave-coming/Ohio Special Election Shows a Blue Wave Coming
August 8, 2018 at 5:37 am EDT By Taegan Goddard
In Ohios 12th Congressional District, which encompasses the northern suburbs of Columbus and rural expanses to the east, voters preferred President Trump by 11 points and GOP Rep. Patrick Tiberi by 37 points in 2016. But with the race too close to call late Tuesday night, those voters showed a marked shift away from Republicans.
Micah Cohen: Ohio 12 looks to have shifted by about 13 points towards Democrats relative to its partisan lean (how we would expect it to vote in a neutral political environment) Thats just about in line with Democrats average overperformance in these elections in the Trump era. Special elections have been a good sign for Democratic midterm hopes for awhile now, and Ohio 12 was no exception (even if Balderson hangs on).
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Demovictory9
(32,457 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)GetRidOfThem
(869 posts)Which means motivated voters, and I suspect may be more democratic...
LisaL
(44,973 posts)ananda
(28,867 posts)nt
This would be so good for the country if O'Connor wins.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)honest.abe
(8,679 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)The results in Ohio are a credit to the candidate, the Democratic Party and the voters in Ohio. I hope we contest every close election and demand participation in the recount.
I will never forget Diebold in Ohio, and bush vs gore in Florida. Do no surrender to the narrative that the Republican has won until every vote is counted and recounted. imo
Auggie
(31,174 posts)Botany
(70,522 posts).... to the east that is not in the 12th district you have >100,000 votes much of which would vote solid blue
That "green finger" also stops before Ohio State area too which is starts less 1/2 a mile to the south of
that "green finger."
This current form of the 12th district was put together by A.L.E.C. and the Ohio Repugs in 2011.
This district also cuts off over 1/2 of the city of Mansfield, OH to the west
which would vote blue too.
The district also cuts off the southern part of Westerville along I 270 which would vote blue too.
The way to win it in the fall is push republicans = Russia = treason 24/7 to the rural red voters 24/7.
*******
8,000 provisional and absentee votes that are yet to be counted just might put O'Connor over the top.
Auggie
(31,174 posts)it pains me to look at these districts. Repugs would lose if they didn't cheat -- and they know it.
Good luck in the fight. We're watching from California.
Botany
(70,522 posts).... in the newly drawn almost surely red 12th district. I also noticed that the district was
drawn so as that the area where blacks in live in Mansfield and the city of Marion were
also cut out of the district too.
FlightRN
(194 posts)right below Powell. So other side of 270 Dublin-Sawmill Rd area and Im boycotting my Powell neighbors, I forgot they have million-plus dollar homes and put money before Country.
Praying those absentee ballots are in Dannys favor. They sent out absentee ballots in my neighborhood literally seven days before the primary, which was confusing. Also, early voting has been going on all summer- which I wasnt informed of until the week before the actual primary. Some confusion for my parents when those ballots came so close to Election Day.
My father didnt trust them, he thought the Trumpies sent them out 😂
Botany
(70,522 posts)... and push that in the rural red areas. Now 1/2 those people are gone and no facts
or knowledge will change their minds but if treason is proven that might peel away enough
voters to swing the district blue despite how gerrymandered it is.
Fox News and hate talk radio really has poisoned many people's minds.
The provisional and absentee ballots should break to O'Connor too.
FlightRN
(194 posts)this would help to change those minds in Powell and other suburbs in Delaware County where the education is higher. Delaware is such a mixed bag of a County, with a massive income and education disparity throughout it.
One of the Rather Be A Russian than a Democrat t-shirt wearing bubbas was from there.
Lots of racism in Delaware County too, the deep-seated generational type. We need to appeal in some way to the new Powell. What was once fields and small farms, is now full of housing developments where the houses are McMansions...I dont know how to make them care about anything other than their insulated little bubbles they exist in. Id be more than willing to knock on doors over there but I have no idea how to make them care. If everything hes done and said has not made them scared for the future of their children what can flip them? Open to wisdom or ideas from everyone.
Botany
(70,522 posts)..... reach out to them. In Columbus in 2012 after the election I was told by a
really nice guy that we should be afraid now that Obama has won a 2nd term that
he was going to import Hamas fighters from the middle east in order to get a third
and take away the people's guns.
In the rural/red areas of the 12th district we need to hammer home the fact that
a republican vote now is a vote for Trump/Russia and that Russia is conducting
a war on America's foundations and our allies right now and in the past too.
BTW in the upper income college educated rich areas in Powell, Westerville, New
Albany, Powell, and New Albany how could any woman vote for R?
FlightRN
(194 posts)thats who Id love to hear from...I really want to know what message hes spouting that is speaking to them, and now keeping them seemingly as well.
Botany
(70,522 posts).... so how could they vote R?
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Yesterday, OConnor received 99,000 votes. Such a poor showing after two years of this crap is very depressing. In Democrats cant bring themselves to make the effort to vote this fall, then there will be no blue wave.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)So republican turnout was way down. If that keeps up there will be a blue wave.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)The Republican voter should feel depressed with the last two years. We have a reason to be motivated. Our low voter turnout is more unexplainable IMO.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)Relax.
mythology
(9,527 posts)It's 3 months until the regular election.
Botany
(70,522 posts)You don't know what you are talking about. O'Connor's narrow loss was the result
of gerrymandering and not a poor showing by the democrats.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Botany
(70,522 posts)3 blocks to the east of where I am sitting right now is @ least >+ 50,000 solid blue votes
and 1/2 a mile to the south of me is another block of blue votes too. To get that close in
such a gerrymandered district and then blame democratic run out is pure b.s..
I like pretty pictures.
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)IronLionZion
(45,463 posts)and make stupid mistakes
They really need to get more divided over Trump and fight amongst themselves
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)in a place that went for the orange Russian asset huge in 2016, fu**ing idiots!
The blue wave will drown those GOP rats in a few months!!
LiberalFighter
(50,953 posts)and it was still close. For the general they will have to decide how much effort and money will be expended in this race when they have 434 other house seats and other elections.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)Democrats cannot win if the elections are rigged. No matter how many people head out to vote. No matter how big the blue wave. If the republicans cheat, they will continue to win.
The legislature actually voted against providing funds to protect our elections.
We should all turn out. Be we should not be surprised when we nearly win.
dalton99a
(81,526 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)This election is just further proof. We will keep up the pressure and the grassroots will GOTV. Victory is in the winds for Democrats, let's make the most of it whenever we can, wherever we can, every election, in every state.
Balderson and Trump are trying to throw cold water on a recount and the potential of a defeat worse than the small margins reported. imo
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)However, it's up to Democrats in every state and district to actually make it happen. This is no time to relax.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Congressional elections are heavily rigged to favor the GOP. We need some major upsets. Narrowly losing is not good enough with American democracy on life support.
If we don't take the House and Senate back, this may be the last "free" election.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Nor any Republicans. They steal and cheat. Here's hoping that O'Connor pulls it out.
Brother Buzz
(36,444 posts)and we'll be reading all the glorious headlines.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to haul conservatives to the polls. This and other races does provide them with a template for possible wins, but the money poured into saving this district is enormous.
AND, in this case, they have to do it all over again in November. Trump had better not make 1% of these voters upset between now and then.
malaise
(269,067 posts)Just to laugh at the ReTHUG fools.