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gtar100

(4,192 posts)
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 03:40 PM Aug 2018

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez torches CNN's Chris Cuomo for slamming Progressive Agenda (VIDEO)

I don't normally start threads here but I didn't see this on DU and thought this was a brilliant exchange that highlights the *major, major* difference between republicans and democrats. It's the kind of thing you don't typically hear in the mainstream.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EgbertoWillies/status/1027587160491401216?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1027587160491401216&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailykos.com%2Fstory%2F2018%2F8%2F9%2F1787063%2F-Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-torches-CNN-s-Chris-Cuomo-for-slamming-Progressive-Agenda

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez torches CNN's Chris Cuomo for slamming Progressive Agenda (VIDEO)

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Ocasio states it brilliantly. This is a message that can get people off their asses and vote - it matters and Democrats have *great* ideas and plans to make our system of government work for as many people as possible, not just the rich. The republican said, "...my tax dollars...". No, OUR tax dollars.

Great point she makes - Why do we only have empty pockets for the things that are morally right to do - education, health care, environment - but seem to have limitless funds for military spending, tax cuts for the rich, etc. I'll add a few more examples here - subsidies for big businesses, and endless loopholes for people to hold their money offshore, free from taxes while the workers of this country are nickled and dimed for everything they earn?

As she said in the end, "it belies the lack of moral priorities people have right now, especially [in the] republican party."

Damn straight.

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez torches CNN's Chris Cuomo for slamming Progressive Agenda (VIDEO) (Original Post) gtar100 Aug 2018 OP
Her response was fantastic! PADemD Aug 2018 #1
He floated her a softball and she knocked it out of the park. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #2
Softball or not, it's the most common argument I hear from the right. gtar100 Aug 2018 #5
That's why he lobbed it to her like that. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #7
Not really relevant to the content in my opinion. gtar100 Aug 2018 #9
It's the topic line of your op. NCTraveler Aug 2018 #10
Yea, I debated whether or not to use it but decided to pass on the original. gtar100 Aug 2018 #13
It's not overstated. It's dishonest. Nt NCTraveler Aug 2018 #14
I wouldn't go that far. It was a scorching response to a typical repug argument.(n/t) gtar100 Aug 2018 #15
Egberto Willies himself posted it yesterday. Caliman73 Aug 2018 #3
I appreciated that about Cuomo. We need to listen to each other. gtar100 Aug 2018 #4
True. Anyone who thinks we are the same is lazy, dumb, or deluded. Caliman73 Aug 2018 #6
That's really well stated. Thanks! (n/t) gtar100 Aug 2018 #11
I would love to see her debate a rethug AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #8
That's a good point. gtar100 Aug 2018 #12
Sigh, I do so like her wonkwest Aug 2018 #16
Me too. Strong voice, clear arguments. So not like me. gtar100 Aug 2018 #17
Nice to see the question asked and then allowed to be answered fully eleny Aug 2018 #18
I'd say Ocasio-Cortez hit this one out of the park. PatrickforO Aug 2018 #19
She also said this (starting at about 55 seconds: "Why aren't we incorporating... George II Aug 2018 #20
That makes so much sense...to include all these other costs into picture. gtar100 Aug 2018 #21
Makes sense? Healthcare or not, good vs. bad, rich or poor.... George II Aug 2018 #22
priorities bitch. more of her. pansypoo53219 Aug 2018 #23
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
2. He floated her a softball and she knocked it out of the park.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 03:49 PM
Aug 2018

I suggest going to different links to watch the video. It’s not as commercial spammer EW sells it at the link.

EW has a history of normalizing Trump and attacking Democrats. He commercial spams this board directly.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
5. Softball or not, it's the most common argument I hear from the right.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 04:06 PM
Aug 2018

"My tax dollars"... OUR tax dollars. Can't be stated enough. We matter, our votes matter. I know you're not arguing against that but this answer that Ocasio gave is a very clear rebuke of such a common republican screed.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
7. That's why he lobbed it to her like that.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 04:11 PM
Aug 2018

He gave her his platform, lobbed her a softball, and people like commercial spammer EW are trying to make it divisive.

As I said, she did well with it. There is such little hostility I’m sure she knew how the run-up was going to go beforehand.

Shady as fuck how EW is promoting this. Then again, EW has repeated on multiple occasions that Trump want single payer and is going to deliver.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
9. Not really relevant to the content in my opinion.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 05:18 PM
Aug 2018

Typically Dems are not given the time to answer clearly and without interruption. Your points though are not what I find important in this. But your focus is your choice. It is what it is and others may appreciate it. If you want to work on "lobbed" questions, there's full time work on Fox and a depressingly large numbers of conservative hate-talk radio stations around the country.

Egberto is not our enemy. He's doing a hell of a lot more than I am to support progressive values. If you've got better ideas on his self promotion, I suggest you take it up with him. He and his methods are hardly the most important point to be made here.

Bottom line (for me) is this clearly shows the difference between Dems and repubs and why our progressive values *and* platform are imperatives to the survival of this country and our personal freedoms. They need to be out in the open, clearly stated and discussed.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
10. It's the topic line of your op.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 05:20 PM
Aug 2018

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is extremely obvious.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
13. Yea, I debated whether or not to use it but decided to pass on the original.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 05:30 PM
Aug 2018

It is overstated like so many headlines.

Caliman73

(11,641 posts)
3. Egberto Willies himself posted it yesterday.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 03:52 PM
Aug 2018

Yes the response was a good one, but as I said in my response to Egberto's post, the headline is misleading and falsely pits Cuomo, who has been pretty good about holding everyone accountable, against Ocasio-Cortez. He asked a valid question, with I might say, an intonation that was not the best, and Ocasio-Cortez gave a good answer. I did not see any hostility from Cuomo or from Ocasio-Cortez. To characterize it that way just propagates the conflict narrative.

Cuomo has a platform from which he let Ocasio-Cortez give her passionate answer.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
4. I appreciated that about Cuomo. We need to listen to each other.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 03:59 PM
Aug 2018

Missed the post yesterday...busy board. But main point is the content and the contrast between repubs and dems. I think would get some people who normally sit out on elections to see how important it is they get out and vote.

Caliman73

(11,641 posts)
6. True. Anyone who thinks we are the same is lazy, dumb, or deluded.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 04:08 PM
Aug 2018

The way I usually frame the difference between Democratic Party and Republican Party is that Democrats believe that government has a role to play and a responsibility in helping the most vulnerable people in the country to have equitable access to the opportunities and benefits this country has to offer. Democrats see government as a way to curb the excesses of the wealthy and powerful, a counter weight. Republicans see government as the guardian of the status quo, where the owners of capital and property have the protection of their right to accumulate. They use government to enforce the old social order where for the most part, White, Christian values are promoted and other viewpoints are excluded or minimized.

Of course you will never hear a Republican state that, but they throw around phrases like "Personal Responsibility", "Family Values", "Religious Liberty" and others which are basically code for the exclusion of populations that are non-conforming.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
8. I would love to see her debate a rethug
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 04:49 PM
Aug 2018

She seems talented; smart, articulate, fearless, knowledgeable and willing to learn. On top of all that she is stunning which easily makes her media magnet (an asset in todays environment). However, I have not yet seen her debate any repub opponents.
I don’t know for a fact if medicare for all is the best option, are there any alternatives? I’ve always thought that ACA was a great start and could have been improved by adding a public option, state mandates, etc. The premise was that the cost would start to go down after 10 years. This makes sense because initially there would be a lot of sick people in the system who were denied coverage before. ACA also had a competition component that stimulates private hospitals to become more efficient. I don’t know what is the pathway for Medicare For All to replace ACA. I think dems need to figure out how to articulate proposals concisely yet with enough detail to be able to defend this.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
12. That's a good point.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 05:27 PM
Aug 2018

It's sad that republicans don't even want people to have affordable health care. Simply callous. So it makes it difficult to even get to a point where we can consider improvements. Instead they want to kill the ACA before it even has a chance. Version 1.0 is never the best in anything.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
17. Me too. Strong voice, clear arguments. So not like me.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 05:54 PM
Aug 2018

Looking forward to seeing her in congress especially when we win the majority.

PatrickforO

(14,465 posts)
19. I'd say Ocasio-Cortez hit this one out of the park.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 06:33 PM
Aug 2018

Home run!

I've made this quote my signature line because it is the BEST.

George II

(67,782 posts)
20. She also said this (starting at about 55 seconds: "Why aren't we incorporating...
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 06:47 PM
Aug 2018

...the cost of all the funeral expenses of those who die because they can't afford access to health care."

Access to healthcare or not, EVERYONE is going to die and need a funeral. No one AVOIDS dying because they have healthcare.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
21. That makes so much sense...to include all these other costs into picture.
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 08:05 PM
Aug 2018

Funeral costs is a perfect example. Also emergency room costs when there is no other choice except to die. The rich will always be able to afford better health care but the current system is so damn lopsided toward the interests of money that the poor and working classes are generally left to the mercy of charity or they risk facing insurmountable debt. If charity were enough, these kind of problems would have been solved a long time ago.

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. Makes sense? Healthcare or not, good vs. bad, rich or poor....
Fri Aug 10, 2018, 09:03 PM
Aug 2018

...who among us will not ever have funeral costs? Will the quality of anyone's healthcare affect the COST of that funeral?

No.

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