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Black women become most educated group in US

Black women become most educated group in US

The percentage of black students attending college has increased over the last 30 years

Samuel Osborne
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Friday 3 June 2016 08:37

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/black-women-become-most-educated-group-in-us-a7063361.html

Black women are now the most educated group in US, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

Between 2009 and 2010, black women earned 68 per cent of associate's degrees, 66 per cent of bachelor's degrees, 71 per cent of master's degrees and 65 per cent of all doctorate degrees awarded to black students.

The percentage of black students attending college has increased from 10 per cent to 15 per cent from 1976 to 2012, while the percentage of white students fell from 84 to 60 per cent.

By both race and gender, a higher percentage of black women (9.7 per cent) is enrolled in college than any other group, including Asian women (8.7 per cent), white women (7.1 per cent) and white men (6.1 per cent).

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marble falls Aug 2018 OP
secondwind Aug 2018 #1
lindysalsagal Aug 2018 #2
d_r Aug 2018 #9
Victor_c3 Aug 2018 #46
ehrnst Aug 2018 #3
Hortensis Aug 2018 #4
marble falls Aug 2018 #5
Hortensis Aug 2018 #10
marble falls Aug 2018 #12
Hortensis Aug 2018 #25
marble falls Aug 2018 #33
Hortensis Aug 2018 #45
Post removed Aug 2018 #17
marble falls Aug 2018 #21
Name removed Aug 2018 #24
marble falls Aug 2018 #26
rzemanfl Aug 2018 #27
vi5 Aug 2018 #6
marble falls Aug 2018 #13
Squinch Aug 2018 #7
2naSalit Aug 2018 #8
RobinA Aug 2018 #11
marble falls Aug 2018 #14
Pope George Ringo II Aug 2018 #39
lpbk2713 Aug 2018 #15
smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #58
lpbk2713 Aug 2018 #59
Name removed Aug 2018 #16
uponit7771 Aug 2018 #18
Name removed Aug 2018 #22
uponit7771 Aug 2018 #29
Name removed Aug 2018 #30
WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2018 #19
marble falls Aug 2018 #34
marble falls Aug 2018 #20
FailureToCommunicate Aug 2018 #28
marble falls Aug 2018 #31
uponit7771 Aug 2018 #36
marble falls Aug 2018 #40
uponit7771 Aug 2018 #42
Name removed Aug 2018 #55
Pope George Ringo II Aug 2018 #47
marble falls Aug 2018 #48
malaise Aug 2018 #23
MuseRider Aug 2018 #32
calimary Aug 2018 #35
marble falls Aug 2018 #41
dlk Aug 2018 #37
IronLionZion Aug 2018 #38
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Soxfan58 Aug 2018 #43
Politicub Aug 2018 #44
marble falls Aug 2018 #49
KentuckyWoman Aug 2018 #50
uponit7771 Aug 2018 #51
smirkymonkey Aug 2018 #52
MichMan Aug 2018 #60
Captain Stern Aug 2018 #53
JustAnotherGen Aug 2018 #54
marble falls Aug 2018 #57
appalachiablue Aug 2018 #56
Tarheel_Dem Aug 2018 #61

Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 07:46 AM

1. WHOA!!! This is fabulous news!!

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 07:52 AM

2. This does not surprise me, and bodes well for the future of our country.

On average, the only significant predictor of a student's success is the education level of the mother.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jora.12182

This is established fact: No other indicator comes close to predicting a student's success level.

Ok, no need to post your exceptions: This is how to look at populations, not individuals.

So, that means that in about 10-15 years, the minority education performance gap may start to narrow to a degree. Good news for society and the democratic party.

Let's hope that the same effect may be operating in the hispanic population.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:23 AM

9. while mother's educational level

is certainly critical for a child's educational success, for a variety of reasons including everything from level of verbal stimulation given to infants and toddlers to attitudes towards the importance of education for high schoolers, I think it is cavalier to say "the only significant predictor," "established fact" and "no other indicator comes close." There are a host of variables that contribute to student success in complex, interacting ways, there are multiple theoretical models of student success with varying degrees of empirical support, and, for that matter, there is not even consensus on a definition of "student success."

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:08 AM

46. Interesting thought / comment

Also, when you look at the bigger picture and look at things like fertility rates and whatnot, there is a correlation between increasing female literacy rates and a declining birth rates. As our global population is projected to hit 11 billion by 2050, this is a very important thing.

Educated women, and more of them, are the best thing for this country and the world - for so many reasons.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 07:52 AM

3. Makes sense that they are the most reliable voting base in the Democratic Party. (nt)

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 07:52 AM

4. Wow! That is impressive.



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Response to Hortensis (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 07:54 AM

5. Its why the woman of color gets my first look in an election, the man who looks like me doesn't.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:23 AM

10. Interesting thought. I understand that. We all have our criteria.

For sure, with these educational achievements, more black people will be moving into positions of authority in future, a genie the knucklegraggers can't stuff back in the bottle. In a democracy, anyway...

After electability, I look for the individual person I believe will make the best, most competent and principled administrator for our nation. I'm an issues person myself, drawn to enthusiastic, idealistic policy wonks.

Mistrust of demagoguery, candidates who campaign on getting crowds all worked up over them as saviors, and not bothering them with a lot of detail, is the form my aversion takes.

So I voted happily for both Hillary and Obama, but for me their being our first woman and our first black man were always secondary to bringing the internal right stuff to the job. My vote would have been the same, if not my pride in these great advances for equality, if the package was white male.



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Response to Hortensis (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:35 AM

12. Guys who look like me are 90% of Congress and the White House ....

I really do not think that resulted purely from voting for the "best" candidate, do you?

I will always vote for the best candidate, but anyone not a white male over fifty gets my first consideration. We really need Congress to look a lot more like the population. If there are two candidates equal to the job I'm voting for the one who does not look like me. Guys who look like me are who got us where we are. Its time to make a serious change and this my own personal affirmative action plan to get us on track to become a truly representational democracy.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:03 AM

25. Didn't result from MY choices, and we're actually

together on voting to advance equality, just obviously giving different weights to it. If two candidates really seemed to be good choices, like you I would consider diversity of skin color, gender, ethnicity, religion, or ? that advanced equality to be an important factor. For me it'd be additional, for you more primary.

But all candidates I have to choose from get careful consideration, at least until I learn enough from research to realize I will not be voting for them. I'm guessing it's probably the same with you.

Have a nice day.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #25)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:12 AM

33. We're good, we're part of the Blue wave.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #33)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:51 AM

45. You bet!

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Response to Post removed (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:55 AM

21. Stay right there, the pizza truck will pick you up very shortly.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #24)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:05 AM

26. These are facts and figures and just because you deny them doesn't mean you're ...

engaged in any kind of conversation dumb or otherwise. But please: continue to think we're fucked.

Too bad you have no talking points of your own. You and Trump both need to learn just because you say it doesn't mean its true.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #24)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:05 AM

27. Bye. n/t

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 07:59 AM

6. Awesome!

 

This middle aged white dude thinks this is amazing and bodes well for the future of this country if we can just wrest it away from the fascists.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:36 AM

13. This old white dude agrees: women and PoC can get us back on track.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:17 AM

7. Another reason why black women and not white men should be the leading voices in our party.

Along with their proven loyalty.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:18 AM

8. And the RWNJ racists are going to get even uglier when they hear this...nt

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:32 AM

11. Uhh...

Not sure you can get that conclusion from those statistics, but I could be wrong.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:41 AM

14. White male stupid, of which we are 'blessed' in aces and spades is the mire we're in now.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:21 AM

39. That was my thought.

I'm not sure the comments on percentages of students are worded well, but I can parse it in a way that it supports the headline.

However, counting relatively recent college graduates at all levels is one thing, but 60 year olds count too. Over all ages of the total general populace, I'm sort of assuming it's still a white man's game. For the moment.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:43 AM

15. 71 per cent of master's ...




Now that's impressive.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:57 PM

58. It's 71% of Masters degrees awarded to black students, not of all degrees awarded.

It is confusing the way it is written.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #58)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 05:05 PM

59. OK thanks.




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Response to Name removed (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:52 AM

18. Sounds like you've not been exposed to many non whites who are educated or the

... statistics that outline how an A student that's poor has a harder time getting through college than a C student that's well off.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #22)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:06 AM

29. You need to understand America has changed a lot since the 60s and 70s

You do understand that there's a percentage of blacks and Hispanics that come from affluent... areas also right?

I know black and Hispanic kids that go to 9 and 10 schools throughout K-12 that run circles around red lined schools that were predom white which are now run down because of their stupid state laws.

You need to get out more, stick around ... we can help here

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Response to Name removed (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:53 AM

19. What the fuck is this shit right here.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:13 AM

34. You called it right: shit.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:53 AM

20. Isn't the library open yet?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:05 AM

28. +1

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #28)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:08 AM

31. Some folks think they're invisible.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #31)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:17 AM

36. Not only that but educated black women are the biggest agro to Americas socialy

... entitled.

Even more for Latina non white

I don't understand it yet but for some reason a-holes blow up when educated WoC appear

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #36)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:24 AM

40. They hate being caught while stupid publicly, particularly by an "inferior" person ...

with our 2018 slate they had better get used to more of that experience. I want smart people in Congress.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #40)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:26 AM

42. +1

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Response to marble falls (Reply #31)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:24 AM

47. At the moment, it's hard to argue they're not.

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Response to Pope George Ringo II (Reply #47)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:29 AM

48. ***snort***!

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 08:56 AM

23. Great news

Rec

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:11 AM

32. Congratulations!

Well done.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:15 AM

35. That's gotta hurt the white (mostly male) supremacists.

Just watch: they’ll deny it. Or try to pretend it doesn’t exist.

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Response to calimary (Reply #35)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:25 AM

41. They've already tried to parse it. Not very well. Dumb people have trouble impeaching fact.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:18 AM

37. Wonderful! Black Women Get It and Are Hip to What's Real

They can't afford to buy into any BS and understand a good education is their ticket to ride.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:19 AM

38. Ooh yeah, this will piss off the white supremacists!

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:36 AM

43. .

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 09:45 AM

44. Great to read some good news!

Black women led the way in Alabama to crush Roy Moore. They’re going to lead the blue wave, too!

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Response to Politicub (Reply #44)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:32 AM

49. Make our elected officials more like ALL of us. I'm way over represented as a 60+ ...

white male. Its just plain got to stop.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 10:43 AM

50. I'm an old white woman who thinks the math does not add up to the OP title

"Between 2009 and 2010, black women earned 68 per cent of associate's degrees, 66 per cent of bachelor's degrees, 71 per cent of master's degrees and 65 per cent of all doctorate degrees awarded to black students."

This whole thing makes me happy and doesn't surprise me in the least. But black students still make up such a small portion of college students nationwide that "most educated group in America" is not even possible.

White males from rich families are still holding most of the advanced degrees. This needs to change.,

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #50)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 11:01 AM

51. The article was grouping by gender then race not total students. I don't read the OP

... or article title being wrong.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #50)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 11:06 AM

52. Yes, I think it is good news, but the headline is misleading.

What would be more relevant would be to post statistics that show what percentages they are of TOTAL degree earners, not just black students.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #50)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 05:55 PM

60. Those numbers would also tend to indicate that the % of black men earning degrees is much lower.

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That also needs to change

Those % were not listed in the article for either Black or Asian males.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 11:23 AM

53. Good news, but bad headline.

The numbers show an encouraging trend, but it takes some pretty torturous reasoning to say that those numbers show that "Black women become most educated group in US".

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 11:33 AM

54. Not surprised

We were trending towards this a few years ago.

Now - how to translate this into HIGHER pay. At least as high as our white female peers . . . .

That's the question.

It's the best way to equal paychecks for all.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #54)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:56 PM

57. Pay equality is a BIG issue.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 04:54 PM

56. Bravo!

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Wed Aug 15, 2018, 06:12 PM

61. K&R!

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