Trump mansplains Vietnam War to Vietnam War veterans.

[DetlefK]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-and-omarosa-had-a-fcking-weird-fight-with-vietnam-vets

During this White House meeting, certain details of which have not been previously reported, the president managed to again annoy and confuse U.S. war veterans, this time by getting into a bizarre, protracted argument with Vietnam War vets present about the movie Apocalypse Now and the herbicide Agent Orange.

...

During the course of the meeting, Weidman brought up the issue of Agent Orange, an extremely notorious component of the U.S. herbicidal warfare on Vietnam. Weidman was imploring the president and his team to permit access to benefits for a broader number of vets who have said they were poisoned by Agent Orange.

Trump responded by saying, “That’s taken care of,” according to people in the room.

His reply puzzled the group.

Attendees began explaining to the president that the VA had not made enough progress on the issue at all, to which Trump responded by abruptly derailing the meeting and asking the attendees if Agent Orange was “that stuff from that movie.”

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Source present at the time tell The Daily Beast that multiple people—including Vietnam War veterans—chimed in to inform the president that the Apocalypse Now set piece he was talking about showcased the U.S. military using napalm, not Agent Orange.

Trump refused to accept that he was mistaken and proceeded to say things like, “no, I think it’s that stuff from that movie.”

One clue belying the president’s insistence is that the famous Robert Duvall line from the scene in Apocalypse Now, “I love the smell of napalm in the morning,” is not “I love the smell of Agent Orange in the morning.”

He then went around the room polling attendees about if it was, in fact, napalm or Agent Orange in the famous scene from “that movie,” as the gathering—organized to focus on important, sometimes life-or-death issues for veterans—descended into a pointless debate over Apocalypse Now that the president simply would not concede, despite all the available evidence.

Finally, Trump made eye contact again with Weidman and asked him if it was napalm or Agent Orange. The VVA co-founder assured Trump, as did several before him, that it was in fact napalm, and said that he didn’t like the Coppola film and believed it to be a disservice to Vietnam War veterans.

According to two people in attendance, Trump then flippantly replied to the Vietnam vet, “Well, I think you just didn’t like the movie,” before finally moving on.

[Girard442]

1. If this were in a movie scene, it would have ended up on the cutting room floor.

Too unbelievable, right?

[brush]

18. It would have to be a comedy.

Can't wait for SNL and Alec Baldwin get a hold of this.

It writes itself. Their writers won't even be needed for this skit.

[PatSeg]

35. Yes

But it would be a really bad comedy, a slapstick farce that would barely appeal to a ten year old. Really mean, stupid people just cannot be made to appear funny, no matter what color their skin or goofy their hair. Trump is an abomination and though some impersonations may come close to capturing his stupidity, they can't quite get the true ugliness of the man's soul. Alec Baldwin is almost endearing in comparison.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

51. He is like Admiral/President Benson from the Hot Shots movies

Although Benson was much nicer

[PatSeg]

91. Almost all such characters

have at least one or two redeeming qualities, even if it is just they are good to their dog or children. Trump has absolutely none. He is more like a Saturday Morning cartoon villain.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

92. More like a horror movie villain

The scariest thing about this whole situation is not just that Trump is an ignorant doofus who doesn't know thing #1 about being POTUS and the GOP is oblivious/indifferent but also that we potentially have a President and an entire political party compromised by a foreign power and nobody knows exactly to what end and/or what that could literally mean for the future of American democracy.

[olegramps]

46. This has been trait that he exhibited since childhood.

There was testimony by one of his classmates that he would insist that he was right when the entire class and the teacher told him that he was wrong. He was and remains to be the classical petulant spoiled child. He has such a fragile ego that he is impossible to admit that he is wrong. This is a trait of people who a wrapped since of right and wrong. He is just like many dictators who have plagued mankind who have no conscience. This is what makes them so dangerous. They will do anything, lie, cheat, steal and even murder to win without any regard for their victims. They are totally abnormal and have no capacity for compassion for those they destroy and are able to justify even the most atrocious actions with the delusion that they were justified because they are being attack by the enemy. They are only fighting back against unfair condemnation. This is his signature trait, he blames his victims for his immoral actions. He is the thug who justifies a brutal rape with the delusion that the victim has provoked them and they were victimized. Trump repeats this same scenario over and over again. He is totally beyond reform.

[Scarsdale]

116. This is why Putin

chose to put him into the WH. He is a big joke on this country. He is so ignorant, the entire world lost respect for the USA. Thanks, Vlad.

[SayItLoud]

83. And yet,

how many votes did he get from Vets and serving military.

I don't understand. #VOTEBLUE or we deserve what we have and will get a lot more of this crap.

[progressoid]

93. Stanley Kubrick is facepalming in his grave.

Satire has become reality.

[Jack from Charlotte]

96. Why is that? This was a Francis Ford Coppola movie.

Was the screenplay writer, directer, and made via his studio, I think.

[progressoid]

102. Yes. I was thinking about the absurdity of this situation.

Like in Dr. Strangelove.

[BigmanPigman]

95. I hope this is how "The trump Movie"

ends...like the beginning of Apoc Now and "The End" by The Doors

[Beaverhausen]

2. what the fuck?

Every day we find out he's said or done something so ridiculous we don't think he can be any more ridiculous.

But then he does.

[MineralMan]

3. Trump, Like Honey Badger, Don't Care!

[tavernier]

8. Doesn't give a shit.

[LonePirate]

82. Did somebody say Honey Badger?

[HeiressofBickworth]

115. Hmmm. Reminds me of a book

I read a long time ago. The Honey Badger by Robert Ruark. Published after he died in 1965. I remember that I liked the book -- I'll have to read it again to see just how many fucks a fictional Honey Badger don't give. I'm betting the asshole in the White House gives even fewer.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

4. Trump believes Education is too expensive, so he tried IGNORANCE.....

My Brother-In-Law suffers from Parkinson's Disease attributed to his 2 tours in Vietnam with the US Marine Corps to Agent Orange. It is not pretty to watch him shake, even on meds to control it somewhat.

[rainin]

31. Has your BIL tried medical marijuana? This clip is dramatic if it's true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=58&v=rAdDdTZuNA8

I've wished it were legal for pain relief. We need dems in control of our government.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

110. Find a State where it IS legal

There are now 30 states and The District that have some form of medical marijuana laws in place.

In some states (you're going to need to check), the VA has a program for limited usage when all else has failed.

We are now past the tipping point. 30 States and D. C. In 10 years, it will be recognized as treatment everywhere.

P/S There are "purge" remedies available all over the place (especially on the Internet). Used as recommended, the good ones work.

[Eyeball_Kid]

33. My brother has multiple diseases from Agent Orange. Trumpy is an ignorant bastard and doesn't care

about any of it. He may as well be a Reptilian for all I care. The evil bastard can die screaming in agony, and I'd be privileged to piss on his grave.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

111. You are going to have to get in line for that.

I know lots of vets (including myself) who can't wait for him to croak (Yeah, that's right Spanky, keep eating your BigMacs. You want fries with that ?) so that we can go "water" or fertilize his grave. At this rate, they're going to have to hide it or put it in a really remote place.

[eggplant]

97. You have my deepst sympathies. Parkinson's is a fucking evil disease.

My dad died from complications from it six years ago. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

[Achilleaze]

5. The republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief has his cowardly head up his cowardly ass

Mansplaining war to veterans. Only a republican draft dodger would insult our veterans in this way. Disgusting.

[Stinky The Clown]

6. Fucking Asshole

[Laf.La.Dem.]

7. The man is a true leader!!

[Arkansas Granny]

9. Trump is approximately the same age as me. We came of age during the Vietnam war. I can't think of

another person in that age group who would not know the difference between napalm and Agent Orange. The effects of both were reported and shown on the nightly news for months and years on end. That war was literally broadcast into our living rooms in living color, up close and personal. Most people I knew had friends or family who fought in that war.

Which makes me wonder if he was that far out of touch with current events and the controversy about the use of those chemicals at the time of the war or is he suffering from memory loss.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

14. The smell of Napalm in the morning DOES NOT smell like Victory...

As one Veteran said to me at a workshop I attended back in 1987 for a story I was working on. He said it smelled like "living death." I cried I was so shaken by his words.

[yardwork]

54. I had the impression that that was the point of that scene.

Apocalypse Now was not a pro-war movie in any way.

Robert Duvall's character is a sociopath. It figures that Trump would identify. Trump likes sociopaths.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

112. Well, really

Napalm is just jellied gasoline. You can't put it out, it has to burn itself out. And the smell is atrocious.

[brush]

22. He's just not smart. Doesn't retain info.

[yardwork]

52. Trump doesn't care. He can't be bothered with details.

He's not going to do anything to help veterans anyway, so why would he bother to find out details?

It's all a game to Trump.

[Pacifist Patriot]

74. I'm the daughter of a Vietnam vet and know the difference.

The description of this meeting was thoroughly chilling to me. I think the two options in your last sentence are not mutually exclusive. I think both apply to him.

[peekaloo]

10. I'm surprised he didn't point out how Boo Radley rose up from impoverished beginnings

to become a war hero.

The horror, the horror!

p.s. perhaps he likes that Agent Orange nickname.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

79. I'm wondering if he thought someone was busting his chops...

bc he's been called agent orange many times. He insufferable. One thing is good about all this...VETERANS seeing someone who really doesn't care about them and is ignorant of most things. Meanwhile he was fighting HIS Vietnam screwing w the glut of girls due to the men going when they were called. Avoiding STDs and if you believe he won that war...I have a bridge to sell you. Most likely he has been spreading STDs his entire life. Real cherub that guy.

[peekaloo]

84. The old "who you going to believe, me or your lying eyes".

I'm surprised he didn't start humming 'The Ride of the Valkyries' while play acting a pilot.

Nixon had his Spiro Agnew, Hair Furor has his Spirochetes.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

85. Heh heh.

I laugh, so I don't cry.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. If it didn't happen in a movie it didn't happen.

[sarge43]

48. When Indiana Jones and Han Solo corrects you.

[Bayard]

90. Like that!

[yonder]

100. +1. Thanks, that was good to see. nt

[Scurrilous]

12. K&R

[Ohiogal]

13. He is such a disgusting, shameful, train wreck

on so many levels. Obvious that he forms all his twisted opinions from simply watching TV. He shames our country and pisses on our veterans every day.

[smirkymonkey]

19. This!

Every single DAY he does something that makes me hate him even more!

[2naSalit]

15. A narcissist

believes they are of supreme knowledge and nobody has license to challenge or correct them.

[Blue_true]

106. Yes, exactly. He can't ever admit to being wrong, even when he is CLEARLY wrong.

I heard Duvall is a rightie, wonder whether he will wade in to defend Trump, only to be blown up by Coppola.

[angrychair]

16. Seems a little on the nose for trump's presidency

It is an apocalypse now.

[DavidDvorkin]

17. Trumpslaining, not mansplaining.

[robbob]

20. Reminds me of this classic Kids In The Hall sketch

[Mc Mike]

44. I love those kids. rec, nt.

[geardaddy]

62. I loved Kids in the Hall

and I remember that sketch! LOL

I saw their live show once. Friggin awesome.

[thucythucy]

21. This reminds me of a story about Stalin

who got into an argument at the Kremlin with leaders from Yugoslavia. Stalin insisted that the Netherlands was not a part of the Benelux group (which is a trade treaty consisting of Belgium, the Netherlands, and Luxembourg, hence the name). The Yugoslavs tried to argue with him, and he shouted, "When I say 'No!' I mean it!"

It's that totalitarian frame of mind we're coming to know so well.

[Blue_true]

107. I bet those Yugoslav leaded creamed their pants.

Stalin was the real deal despot, arrogant, brutal and murderous and he had a long memory in regards to his perceived enemies, he had his once rival Trotsky brutally murdered in Mexico, even as Trotsky was powerless and running for his life.

[democrank]

23. I'm going to let it rip....

So that POS Trump used up time with these veterans to argue about a movie, even "polling them" about napalm vs. Agent Orange. Trump knows NOTHING about this subject, and even less about sacrifice. He doesn't know an effing thing about history or the Constitution....or honor. He's an empty, shallow, narcissistic nothing held up by fake bone spurs and treachery.

He doesn't deserve to be in the same room with those vets.

If Trump thinks the issues with Agent Orange are "taken care of", he should skip golf for a couple days and go visit some VA hospitals. He'd find plenty of veterans poisoned by Agent Orange and deadly sick after begging for help for decades.

My beloved died from this shit. Agent Orange brain cancer, among others. You know, the kind Senator McCain is suffering from that Trump can't even bring himself to acknowledge. The kind that takes a man from using complicated tools for precision metal work to staring at a ruler, confused as to where the 1-inch mark is. That kind.

I try to not hate, but Trump is testing me. I can't even find the words to describe what a sickening excuse for a human being he is.

[Eyeball_Kid]

36. You've got it right. And remember: Trumpy is loved by 85% of Republicans.

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

[luvtheGWN]

47. We know what is wrong.

1. Everyday Repubs put party over country. And the trumpcultists in particular are racists, misogynists and just about every other negative and hateful -ist you can think of.

2. GOP Congresscritters know that if they speak out about Dolt45, he will use every means possible to slander them and they're too wrapped up in getting re-elected and getting their salary, their health insurance and all the other perks.

It makes my head hurt (and my heart ache) at what he has turned your country into -- by the very fact that he gets to keep doing what he's doing every goddamn day. He really is the personification of evil.

[Grins]

73. And a crap-ton of veterans! NM

[olegramps]

49. I have no trouble hating him just as I hate Hitler, Mao, Stalin ... He is the same cut.

[Racerdog1]

24. This fuck tard

Does not belong anywhere close to any veteran.

[angrychair]

25. In trump's defense

He was really busy during the Vietnam War “feeling like great and very brave soldier” during the Vietnam War...












...At not getting STDs from all the sex he was having

[nolabear]

26. My father died from Agent Orange exposure.

Took almost thirty years but during those years he got cancer after cancer. It was a lousy way to go.

FUCK that war and that asshole-if nobody told him half of us call HIM Agent Orange they lost a great opportunity.

[democrank]

28. So very sorry about your Dad, nolabear.

He's not suffering any more.

~PEACE~

[nolabear]

34. It's been many years, but everything about that war still makes me mad.

[tonyt53]

41. Lost my oldest brother to agent orange related heart disease. Pisses me off to no end.

My mother had to see her first born child dead. His death certificate state agent orange related cardiovascular disease as the cause of death. I have several friends that have agent orange -related health issues. I think most people have no idea about what that crap did to hose exposed. On top of that, I think they would rather forget Vietnam War veterans. THAT also pisses me off to no end. I'm really sorry that you lost your dad, and you have an absolute right to be pissed off.

[democrank]

58. I'm sorry your family went through this, tonyt53.

You're right. Many people don't realize the suffering caused from Agent Orange exposure, nor do they realize how hard and long veterans had to fight their own government to have their Agent Orange related illnesses acknowledged.

~PEACE~

[nolabear]

65. My heart goes out to you too. And thousands more.

[Old Vet]

118. Iam so sorry...........

[Chemisse]

27. Clearly Trump's frame of reference for the entire Vietnam War is based on a dimly remembered movie.

[madaboutharry]

29. There are no words.

Trump is in severe mental decline.

[johnp3907]

30. I love the smell of agent orange in the morning.

It smells like....WINNING!!!!

[usaf-vet]

71. He thinks it's the stuff they use in the spray on tanning booths.

Orange man doesn't have a clue.

[HAB911]

32. about the funniest shit I've ever read

[Blue_true]

109. All regards, but it is the saddest thing that I have read in a long time.

There is nothing funny about. I had a veteran older brother who fought in Vietnam and died from Agent Orange exposure, even as the government was trying to prove that it affected no one (although they paid for my brother's medical care). I know a vet that is younger than my brother would be if he was still alive, the younger vet fought in Vietnam and he has both physical and psychological issues that doctors that have treated him believe were caused by agent orange exposure, that vet also suffers from bouts of dementia and physical ailments like my brother did, although the effect on my brother was rapid because he fought in a Marine unit that often went into the jungle and was sprayed by planes that were defoliating the jungle to help expose enemy positions, my brother became bad off, but before he fell apart, he described a lot of what happened and what he witnessed there and about killing people, something that my mom said he would have never dreamed of before he got drafted.

What Trump did is not funny, it is brutally sad beyond measure. We have a monster as President now.

[HAB911]

117. Sorry to hear that

my comment was about the absurdity of Trump's mind, not the VN war or it's victims
take care

[Blue_true]

120. Nothing can be done for my brother, his life passed 18 years ago.

But there are Americans who fought in the war that he did, who are suffering the consequences of fighting in that war daily. I have read your posts, my sense of you is that you are a decent person, so I have no issue with your post other than it needed more elaboration.

For the veterans of wars that are suffering, all of us need to do what we can to help them. We may not agree with the war they fought in, but they fought in good faith or because they were drafted and did not have connections that could have gotten them into softer roles, or allow them to repeatedly dodge like Trump did. Anyone that hear a socalled progressive say there is no difference between the modern republican and democratic parties need to forcefully remind that person that there is an enormous difference. Democrats care about people that are in need and trying to help solve the problems those people can't solve themselves, republicans don't.

[pazzyanne]

37. And again I have to say tRump is disgusting!

He dodged the draft 4 or 5 times, he is supposedly the POTUS, and doesn't care enough about the military to even know what Agent Orange is or to give funds to the VA for medical attention for those in the military suffering the effects of what was done to them by their own country. Just D.I.S.G.U.S.T.I.N.G!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

38. And veterans voted for him. Many still will, forgetting he is a RepubliConman.

[Old Vet]

119. I personally know zero vets who support this nitwit.......

Although hes popular with WW2 and Korean vets Iam told.

[CatMor]

39. When I started reading this article I thought it was The Onion....

I'm astonished that he's even more stupid than I already thought. It seems his advisors don't bother to intervene when his complete lack of knowledge is showing. How could any Vet possibly vote and back this moron. Our country seems doomed and may not recover from this despot.

[Harker]

40. He was thinking of Soylent Green. n/t

[PatrickforO]

42. Honestly, when I read this I cracked up.

If this guy were a doctor, I'd say he has the bedside manner of a thumb tack.

He just has no idea how to actually relate with people, carry a conversation. And clearly no empathy.

No conscience, either.

And he's a pathological liar.

Personally insecure.

Whoops! I've described a...


SOCIOPATH.

[Mc Mike]

43. Avoiding STDs was dRump's vietnam.

He's what would happen if Colonel Kurtz and Agent Orange had a baby.

[lagomorph777]

45. So Agent Orange (trump) doesn't even know what the original Agent Orange was?

Here's a clue: it causes more trouble than a bone spur.

[DemoTex]

59. The Russian agent, codename "Orange" ..

The Russian agent, codename "Orange," seems to be an expert on N,N?-dimethyl-4,4?-bipyridinium dichloride (aka "Agent Orange," or paraquat) as well as gasoline + gelling agent (napalm). The fact that he would even talk about either, not knowing jackshit, offends me highly. While that slack-jawed cretin was back on the block, nursing his bone spurs and STDs, I was directly exposed to N,N?-dimethyl-4,4?-bipyridinium dichloride - Agent Orange. In fact, all Vietnam veterans were exposed, presumptively.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

50. Bizarre and embarrassing

62 million voters.

[Fritz Walter]

53. At ease, cadet bone spurs!

Or should we now refer to that shit-stain as “agent orange”?

Perhaps Putin already gave him that nickname: агент апельсин.

[The Liberal Lion]

55. Someone, somewhere truly needs to slap the everloving

shit out of this orange asshole

[SCantiGOP]

56. He wasn't mansplaining

This was Trumpsplaining, which is as easy to understand as ancient Neanderthal.

[aggiesal]

57. Isn't IQ45 Agent Orange? ...

I believe that's call sign in Russia

[DemoTex]

61. Yep ..

Russian agent, codename "Orange."

[elmac]

60. Vets loooove president bone spurs

2/3rds voted for him, I think its the war mentality, they think the fascists are their bro's.

[heaven05]

63. I am fighting VA

now on cancer directly related to my exposure to AO in 1968-69. The VA approved my claim of exposure, gave me a small stipend but turned me down on my cancer and diabetic neuropathy which was a slam dunk for EVERY other veteran. But they turned me down for cancer during this administration overlording of VA. The Obama administration gave me my exposure claim. Yeah, I hate bone spurs, his highnessorangemanthecoward. I am fighting for all who have been turned down for various BS reasons. I have a great navy veteran advocate, she's right there in the fight.

[Javaman]

64. the rich with their heads up their asses as exemplified by the orange asshole...

where the fuck was this colossal asshole during the war? oh that's right "bone spurs".

more over where was this asshole during the hearings after the war concerning agent orange and it's effects upon U.S. military? it was in all the fucking papers

oh that's right, he along with the rich had their collective heads up their collective asses because to them "that war" was one only the "poor people" fought in.

fuck this piece of shit masquerading as a human being let along as president.

anytime he opens his trap and spews some sort of colossally stupid utterance, I'm angrily befuddled by his gross stupidity.

[NastyRiffraff]

66. I hope the vets who support him read this

Particularly the Vietnam vets. There are plenty who see him for exactly what he is, but there are too many Trump supporters among them. It could be that they're just used to voting Republican, in some cases.

[dawg day]

67. This was a horrific article.

But it had that weird Dr. Strangelove vibe-- the complete lunatic Trump, blathering on about something he didn't know anything about, and everyone else trying futilely to get him to focus on something real.

The Trump fans -- veterans among them- just must not read or hear about any of this. No one could possibly read that article and think, "This is a guy who should be president." Well, I guess they'll just say it's not true.

[SeattleVet]

78. Strangelove, or Queeg?

[Javaman]

68. when he is out of his depth on something (which is always)...

he tries changing the topic or skew it in such a manner that it makes him look like he's the one knowing the facts and those that actually do have the facts, look uninformed.

he does this time and time again.

he walks out of the room feeling like he just "commanded things" and leaves a room of people confused and pissed.

[usaf-vet]

69. He would instantly know the difference if napalm were dropped on him.....

.... if only for a millisecond. Where as Agent Orange would require a lifetime of suffering and illness.

This man does not deserve to be president. And he surely is not fit to be the Commander in Chief.

[marieo1]

70. Vietnam war

DJT is a very ignorant man, but that said, I do not think most republicans even care. I wish someone would stuff a sock in his mouth!!

[Gothmog]

72. Trump is an idiot

[UCmeNdc]

75. Is this any way to run a country?

[Grins]

76. From the link: "(meeting with) Chief of Staff John Kelly, or somebody even lower."

Rick Weidman, co-founder of Vietnam Veterans of America:

"We (now) have no idea if (Trump's) going to show up or not” when they try to meet with him, adding, “It’s usually [White House Chief of Staff John] Kelly, or somebody even lower.”

Rick; that's damn hard to do. Ain't nobody in that White House lower than Trump or Kelly, unless it is the "man most likely to own a suit made of human skin", Stephen Miller,

[poetshepherd]

77. Zero class. Zero character.

[czarjak]

80. The fucking nerve...

[workinclasszero]

81. Rich, draft dodging, ignorant POS

Just another day in Putin's puppet world.

[HAB911]

86. Draftdodgersplains

The VN War

[Mountain Mule]

87. Criminally Stupid!

My Dad did two tours in Vietnam and was exposed to Agent Orange. Back then he couldn't get help from the VA. It's tragic to read that veterans must still fight about this issue and simply enraging that we have a POTUS* who is a complete idiot. Unbelievable!

[Grammy23]

88. Oh, the books that will be written about this sorry excuse for a human being.

They are practically writing themselves as he spews forth daily plenty of fodder for chapter after chapter over his miserable life. Why is it that a pathetic excuse of a man/child gets to live on and on spreading his misery while other good, decent people die far too soon? I hope someday someone can explain that one to me. There really is no rhyme or reason to so much in this world. I think I need to take a break from this nonsense for a little while and go do something worthwhile like admiring my zinnias. Their bright colors and unassuming gracefulness ought to be the antidote I need for the poison tRump exudes.

[wryter2000]

89. Will they stop voting for him now?

Please?

[Older Than I Look]

94. Jesus wept

[mn9driver]

98. My dad is 87 and a good person. He is suffering from significant cognitive decline.

It’s dementia and it sucks. Even in his current state he knows Trump is a terrible thing that has happened to America.

That being said, Trump’s reasoning ability and my dad’s are eerily similar. There is absolutely no question that Trump is showing clear signs of dementia. None.

[lindysalsagal]

99. Someone. Must. Stop. This.

[yonder]

101. I've no words despite the 100 or so posts above this.

No effing words.

[jmowreader]

103. Here's the entire quote

Dear President, if that's what you are, Trump: Napalm is an incendiary agent. It smells like gasoline. Agent Orange is a herbicide. It smells like the weed killer aisle at Lowe's. When napalm lands on something it sets it on fire. When Agent Orange lands on something it sits there and kills it over a period of weeks. Colonel Kilgore was trying to kill enemy soldiers in the treeline, so he wouldn't have used Agent Orange. If you'd have gone to Vietnam you'd know this.

Anyway, this is Colonel Kilgore's speech after he napalmed the treeline:

You smell that? Do you smell that? That's napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.

I love the smell of napalm in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill bombed for twelve hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of them, not one stinkin' dink body.

But the smell! You know, that gasoline smell. The whole hill. It smelled like...victory.

(Kilgore becomes contemplative...) Someday, this war's gonna end.

[SMC22307]

104. Chickenhawksplaining... FortunateSonsplaining...

[ConstanceCee]

105. Okay, Google....

Apocalypse Now, napalm or Agent Orange. It tells you. They need to have one phone in the room for fact-checking!

[spanone]

108. 'you can keep your mouth shut and appear stupid or you can open it and erase all doubt'

ignorant fuck

[struggle4progress]

113. "Chocking!"

[Haggis for Breakfast]

114. And in addendum

The veterans of the Gulf wars are going to be facing their very own "agent orange" nightmare all too soon.

It will come in the form of burn pits. All of the oil, chemicals, toxins, old armaments that were destroyed in the hundreds of open burn pits across Iraq, Afghanistran, and other places in the middle east. For weeks and months on end, our soldiers were exposed to the noxious fumes from these fires, breathing in and covered over by this lethal combination of pollutants and carcinogins.

Their claims are now already falling on deaf ears from DoD and the VA and if we allow it to happen, we are going to see history repeat itself. We can't just stand by. When you see grass-roots activism spread about forcing governmental agencies to confront the truth about burn pits, do what you can to help progress these issues to the highest levels.

Now that we know what government inaction, denial and complacency look like (regarding AO), let's try to assist the younger vets with all the help we can provide them in making their voices heard and getting their health complications evaluated (with medical science, in honesty and with facts at hand) and enable them to get the benefits they are going to need. And they are going to need our help.

We've been there. We know what denial looks like. It's our turn to reach out to them and give them the guidance we didn't get in time to make a difference in their lives.