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calimary

(81,239 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 02:22 PM Aug 2018

DAYUM but I love Joe Biden.

Biden/Avenatti for 2020? A perfect combination complete with the amiable fellow at the top of the ticket, and the shrewd attack dog running with him, fiercely defending and having his back. Geographically it works, too, I think. And the older/younger dynamic works too.

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DAYUM but I love Joe Biden. (Original Post) calimary Aug 2018 OP
Avenatti doesn't belong anywhere near the presidency The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #1
Ain't that the truth!!!!! tonyt53 Aug 2018 #7
K&R stonecutter357 Aug 2018 #2
Joe is a national treasure Funtatlaguy Aug 2018 #3
No,I think Avenatti would turn some off mainstreetonce Aug 2018 #4
Yeah, I think you're right, mainstreetonce. calimary Aug 2018 #10
He could be a valuable asset to a campaign. mainstreetonce Aug 2018 #15
a very fine man... handmade34 Aug 2018 #5
The last two people that Cindy McCain hugged mainstreetonce Aug 2018 #6
Avenatti was with Cindy Mccain ? JI7 Aug 2018 #16
This is some attempt at humor, isn't it? Biden has the "know". Avenatti puts up a "show". tonyt53 Aug 2018 #8
That, and there's also the fact that Biden is no spring chicken, and if The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #9
Yes that's an excellent point, too, TVO. calimary Aug 2018 #11
How about Biden and Sherrod Brown? First Speaker Aug 2018 #12
That's an intriguing idea! calimary Aug 2018 #13
Maybe not two white guys from northern states? The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #14
Kamala Harris is a class act! I wouldn't complain about seeing her name on the ticket. calimary Sep 2018 #17
Biden/Harris phylny Sep 2018 #18
That's not a bad ticket either. calimary Sep 2018 #19

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
1. Avenatti doesn't belong anywhere near the presidency
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 02:24 PM
Aug 2018

until he's at least spent some time in government learning the ropes and gets the sharp edges knocked off his ego. He's a publicity hog with an inflated opinion of himself, and God knows we don't need any more of those.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
4. No,I think Avenatti would turn some off
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 02:27 PM
Aug 2018

And make it too much about Trump.
Joe is about America. He is too big for Avenatti.

He needs a running mate who is young, maybe military experience, maybe female ,maybe a minority.

calimary

(81,239 posts)
10. Yeah, I think you're right, mainstreetonce.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:12 PM
Aug 2018

I’m just in an ongoing ornery mood these days. And Michael Avenatti is a fighter. Brilliant and easy on the eyes. While remaining cool as a cucumber. And he hits back. Excellent, informed, and quick-witted counterpuncher. So I find him to be the answer to those (myself included) who complain that the Dems tend to bring featherdusters to gunfights. I think he’s terrific.

But you’re right. Michael Avenatti is NOT for everybody.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
6. The last two people that Cindy McCain hugged
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 02:42 PM
Aug 2018

As she got in the limo were Avenatti and Kelly O'Donnell.

Kelly O was totally broken in tears.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
9. That, and there's also the fact that Biden is no spring chicken, and if
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 03:22 PM
Aug 2018

he were the nominee in 2020 his age would be an issue, like it or not - he was born in 1942, so he'd be 76. Therefore his running mate should not only be young, or young-ish, but should be completely ready to take over as president. That person absolutely should not be a rookie at government. The thing that scared me the most about the 2008 election wasn't McCain - although he most likely would have continued Bush's neocon foreign policy, which I would not have liked at all - but Sarah Palin. Who knows whether the stress of the presidency might have done him in while he was in office? The idea of Palin as president was, and is, terrifying. She'd have been a cross between Trump a blonde joke. Obviously Avenatti isn't a dingbat like Palin, but he has no experience of any kind in any elected office or any other government experience.

calimary

(81,239 posts)
11. Yes that's an excellent point, too, TVO.
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:22 PM
Aug 2018

He is indeed a rookie in government. And that’s a problem.

You’re right about Biden, too. Biden’s age unfortunately IS a problem. But Lordy Lordy does he ever win the likeability and integrity and sincerity awards. Plus, his decades of experience in government.

Who else we got? Let’s look at bench strength.

Joseph Kennedy III caught my ear during coverage of one of many congressional attempts to undo the Affordable Care Act. Arguing in support of the ACA, he said “this is how we take care of one another.”

Ideas?

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
12. How about Biden and Sherrod Brown?
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:30 PM
Aug 2018

...assuming, of course, that Brown wins re-election. He's got loads of experience, would make a perfect attack dog, and the GOP hates him. Sounds perfect...

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
14. Maybe not two white guys from northern states?
Thu Aug 30, 2018, 11:50 PM
Aug 2018

Brown is a good guy, of course, but maybe Dems ought to be supporting a more diverse ticket. Kamala Harris?

calimary

(81,239 posts)
17. Kamala Harris is a class act! I wouldn't complain about seeing her name on the ticket.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:04 PM
Sep 2018

Class. Elegance. Brains. And she persists, too.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
18. Biden/Harris
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 07:11 PM
Sep 2018

I want a woman president (and I'm a woman) but I don't know if the dolts in our country think we're ready. This way, God forbid something happens to Biden due to his age (and let's face it, death can come to any of us at any time), Senator Harris is young enough to balance the ticket.

In addition, Joe can stand up to Trump's insults (as I'm sure Sen. Harris can).

In any event, we have two months to get out the vote, and then we can focus forward for real

calimary

(81,239 posts)
19. That's not a bad ticket either.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 08:28 PM
Sep 2018

I too want a woman president. We had a once-in-a-generation opportunity for real greatness and talent. And it was stolen from her - by a gang of domestic crooks and weasels in cahoots with a HOSTILE FOREIGN POWER.

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