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NYT- Bruce Ohr was part of a secret FBI investigation into (Original Post) malaise Sep 2018 OP
If he does get forced out, empedocles Sep 2018 #1
How about pasting a link and the allowed # of paragraphs? k&r, nt appal_jack Sep 2018 #2
Don't have an NYT link malaise Sep 2018 #3
I think this is the story (and link) BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #6
And now the KGOP republicans submissively do the kremlin-oligarchs' bidding Achilleaze Sep 2018 #4
Here's the first part. I haven't read the article Hortensis Sep 2018 #5
The Russians are not going to flip. They're afraid of Putin. bitterross Sep 2018 #7
That makes perfect sense KrazyinKS Sep 2018 #9
The issue of being afraid for his life is not without merit however cstanleytech Sep 2018 #11
Actually, I think Shitler is following the oligarchs/Putins orders CanonRay Sep 2018 #8
LINK to the original article csziggy Sep 2018 #10

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. If he does get forced out,
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 02:46 PM
Sep 2018

hopefully, he could do more damage from the outside. A very well informed public voice and organizer.

BumRushDaShow

(129,660 posts)
6. I think this is the story (and link)
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 05:03 PM
Sep 2018
Bruce Ohr Fought Russian Organized Crime. Now He’s a Target of Trump.

By Adam Goldman and Katie Benner

Aug. 27, 2018

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A graduate of Harvard Law School, Mr. Ohr joined the Justice Department in 1991 from a law firm in San Francisco. As a federal prosecutor in Manhattan, he twice won top awards and rose to be chief of the district’s violent gangs unit. He had a knack for managing people and pushing cases forward, former associates said, which helped propel him to a job at the Justice Department in Washington in 1999 as the head of the organized crime and racketeering section. He provided the F.B.I. with resources to prosecute cases and navigated relationships with the intelligence community, brokering disputes and earning the respect of the F.B.I. and prosecutors.

As oligarchs and gangs flourished in Eurasia after the fall of the Soviet Union, Mr. Ohr, his deputies, the F.B.I. and federal prosecutors tackled Russian crime syndicates, said J. Kenneth Lowrie, a former federal prosecutor who was Mr. Ohr’s longtime deputy. “Until 9/11, organized crime was one of the main priority criminal programs at the Justice Department,” said Mr. Lowrie, who retired in 2008. “Russian organized crime was a focus. Bruce knew a lot of the Russia stuff and traveled there.” Mr. Ohr’s section supported the 2000 prosecution of Pavlo Lazarenko, the former prime minister of Ukraine, who was convicted of money laundering, wire fraud and extortion in a case brought by the office of the United States attorney in San Francisco at the time, Robert S. Mueller III, who is now the special counsel.

Mr. Ohr was a manager, not a litigator, who built bridges with law enforcement agencies around the world, former Justice Department officials said. He sent top deputies to Hungary to root out the nascent Russian mob in the early 2000s. F.B.I. agents viewed the commitment as a sign of his seriousness about combating Russian organized crime. In 2006, Mr. Ohr was part of a group of government officials who revoked the visa of Oleg Deripaska, a Russian billionaire and aluminum magnate. Officials were concerned that Mr. Deripaska might try to come to the United States to launder illicit profits through real estate, a former law enforcement official said.

Mr. Deripaska, a close ally of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia, has been tied to the former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, who was convicted last week of tax and bank fraud. In 2016, Mr. Manafort offered private campaign briefings to Mr. Deripaska, raising concerns about the prospect of Russians wielding influence inside the White House. In April, the United States imposed sanctions on Mr. Deripaska.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/27/us/politics/bruce-ohr-trump-justice-department.html




(a different article from the one that Hortensis posted in post #5)

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
4. And now the KGOP republicans submissively do the kremlin-oligarchs' bidding
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 04:16 PM
Sep 2018

against America. Vile beyond words.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Here's the first part. I haven't read the article
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 04:39 PM
Sep 2018

carefully enough to know what, if anything, to make of it. A lot of the article seems to be that it could somehow be used to claim deep state plotting to take out Trump. Ohr and Steele were both professional experts on Russian organized crime who had worked together. No doubt that's why we know Ohr's name at all. But in this telling it appears we got little and lost little from the attempts to turn some of Putin's fellow kleptocrats into helpful informants.

Agents Tried to Flip Russian Oligarchs. The Fallout Spread to Trump.

Justice Department officials tried to turn the oligarch Oleg V. Deripaska into an informant as they sought information on Russian organized crime and, later, on possible Russian aid to President Trump’s 2016 campaign. In the estimation of American officials, Oleg V. Deripaska, a Russian oligarch with close ties to the Kremlin, has faced credible accusations of extortion, bribery and even murder. They also thought he might make a good source.

Between 2014 and 2016, the F.B.I. and the Justice Department unsuccessfully tried to turn Mr. Deripaska into an informant. They signaled that they might provide help with his trouble in getting visas for the United States or even explore other steps to address his legal problems. In exchange, they were hoping for information on Russian organized crime and, later, on possible Russian aid to President Trump’s 2016 campaign, according to current and former officials and associates of Mr. Deripaska.

In one dramatic encounter, F.B.I. agents appeared unannounced and uninvited at a home Mr. Deripaska maintains in New York and pressed him on whether Paul Manafort, a former business partner of his who went on to become chairman of Mr. Trump’s campaign, had served as a link between the campaign and the Kremlin.

The attempt to flip Mr. Deripaska was part of a broader, clandestine American effort to gauge the possibility of gaining cooperation from roughly a half-dozen of Russia’s richest men, nearly all of whom, like Mr. Deripaska, depend on President Vladimir V. Putin to maintain their wealth, the officials said. ...

But the fallout from the efforts is now rippling through American politics and has helped fuel Mr. Trump’s campaign to discredit the investigation into whether he coordinated with Russia in its interference in the election.

The contacts between Mr. Ohr and Mr. Steele were detailed in emails and notes from Mr. Ohr that the Justice Department turned over to Republicans in Congress earlier this year. A number of journalists, including some at conservative news outlets, have reported on elements of those contacts but not on the broader outreach program to the oligarchs or key aspects of the interactions between Mr. Ohr, Mr. Steele and Mr. Deripaska.

The revelation that Mr. Ohr engaged with Mr. Steele has provided the president’s allies with fresh fodder to attack the investigation led by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel, casting it as part of a vast, long-running conspiracy by a “deep state” bent on undermining Mr. Trump. In their telling, Mr. Ohr and his wife — who worked as a contractor at the same research firm that produced the dossier — are villainous central players in a cabal out to destroy the president.
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
7. The Russians are not going to flip. They're afraid of Putin.
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 05:08 PM
Sep 2018

For good reason, they are afraid of Putin. They are not going to flip. They know that Putin will have them and their families killed.

I fully believe this is the same reason why Manafort hasn't flipped or been pardoned.

cstanleytech

(26,334 posts)
11. The issue of being afraid for his life is not without merit however
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 05:33 PM
Sep 2018

the 2nd most likely reason he has not flipped is because he does not think the deal that he was offered is sweet enough.
As for a pardon the reason he has not been pardoned I am willing to bet is because someone explained to the moron that can do it that it would actually put him in even more legal jeopardy because Manafort can then be compelled to testify and cannot hide behind the 5th amendment so a pardon would be a waste.

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