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stopbush

(24,398 posts)
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 12:31 PM Sep 2018

Will a Non-believer/Atheist/Agnostic ever sit on the SCOTUS?

Seems strange that the highest court in the land is handing down real-world, 21st-century decisions while allowing the make believe of religion to inform said decisions.

What’s with all the Catholics on the SCOTUS?

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Will a Non-believer/Atheist/Agnostic ever sit on the SCOTUS? (Original Post) stopbush Sep 2018 OP
Not in our lifetime Bettie Sep 2018 #1
There are around a half dozen states that have such provisions in their constitutions onenote Sep 2018 #4
The fact that they are on the books Bettie Sep 2018 #7
Those laws are derelicts. onenote Sep 2018 #9
A lot of things are happening now Bettie Sep 2018 #10
One is right now - he just lies about it. lark Sep 2018 #2
Yes. maxsolomon Sep 2018 #3
And on what do you base your prediction onenote Sep 2018 #5
the rate of increase in atheism over the last quarter century. maxsolomon Sep 2018 #8
You probably do not notice the irony. LanternWaste Sep 2018 #6
Not really. Not at all. stopbush Sep 2018 #11

Bettie

(16,144 posts)
1. Not in our lifetime
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 12:32 PM
Sep 2018

the religious folk run the show.

Did you know that there are still states in which you MUST have a religion to run for office?

onenote

(42,829 posts)
4. There are around a half dozen states that have such provisions in their constitutions
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:20 PM
Sep 2018

But they're unenforceable and I can't recall them being used to block someone from holding office.

Bettie

(16,144 posts)
7. The fact that they are on the books
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:49 PM
Sep 2018

at all is disturbing.

I expect that these laws will eventually be used to make the case for theocracy once the Right Wing gets the SC they want.

onenote

(42,829 posts)
9. Those laws are derelicts.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:02 PM
Sep 2018

For example, the Maryland Constitution still has such a provision, even though the US Supreme Court unanimously affirmed the principle that there can be no religious test for holding office in a 1961 case involving that provision.

And the South Carolina constitution still has such a provision even though more than 20 years the South Carolina supreme court (not exactly the most liberal court in the land) unanimously held it violated the US constitution.

No one is trying to enforce these facially unconstitutional provisions and no one is going to.

Bettie

(16,144 posts)
10. A lot of things are happening now
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 02:24 PM
Sep 2018

that no one thought ever would.

You may be right. I hope you are, but I no longer say "that will never happen".

maxsolomon

(33,449 posts)
3. Yes.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:16 PM
Sep 2018

By the time my children are elderly, the majority of Americans will be Atheists.

America 2100 will be a very different place. I hope.

onenote

(42,829 posts)
5. And on what do you base your prediction
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:22 PM
Sep 2018

that a majority of Americans will be atheists in the foreseeable future (your children's lifetime is the foreseeable future).

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. You probably do not notice the irony.
Tue Sep 4, 2018, 01:28 PM
Sep 2018

"strange that the highest court in the land is handing down real-world, 21st-century decisions..."

Law, nations, politics, economics, et. al., are just as imaginary as religion. They simply do not exist any more or any less than religion exists.

The pretense that one imaginary constructs is more valid, or more "real" than another, wholly imaginary construct, is at best, misguided. Then we further enhance that pretense by pretending one imaginary construct should have nothing to do with another.

They exist only because we believe in them, place our faith in them, and abide by their tenets as good parishioners of politics, or a certain nation-state, or because the red and blue lines on a map tell us to.

We predicate daily decisions on the imaginary, we plan our lives based on the imaginary, we hope against hope because of the imaginary.

Try not to get caught up in the imaginary. Or do get caught up in the imaginary. Your choice, of course. Yet admit to yourself (if to no one else) that it's all sand-castles, unicorns and magic thinking-- something humans have been deluding ourselves about since we picked up our first stick.

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