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Seth Abramson on Pappadopoulos sentence. (Original Post) triron Sep 2018 OP
If Coffee Boy gave useful information marylandblue Sep 2018 #1
So why this? triron Sep 2018 #5
That's my question. marylandblue Sep 2018 #6
Perhas they don't want to advertise it. triron Sep 2018 #7
It was stated in the sentencing recommendation (from Mueller), that they were pursuing a harsher OnDoutside Sep 2018 #11
Makes sense now. triron Sep 2018 #17
Okay,Coffee Boy Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #2
What? former9thward Sep 2018 #9
I he pled to a felony,he goes on the No Fly List, Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #10
I presume that is until he completes his 14 days + 1 yr Probation + 200 hrs Community Service ? OnDoutside Sep 2018 #12
Felons are NOT on the"no fly" lists . former9thward Sep 2018 #13
What ever you say, Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #14
He's not the only one in the family who was being pissy. NBachers Sep 2018 #3
Sorry, this slap on the wrist should leave Mueller with a red face. Trust Buster Sep 2018 #4
Why red in the face? C-SPAN4me Sep 2018 #8
Alex van der Zwaan did not cooperate and was given a sentence of 30 days Mr. Ected Sep 2018 #15
My 80 y/o Trump voting father picked up on that. AwakeAtLast Sep 2018 #16
knr triron Sep 2018 #18

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
11. It was stated in the sentencing recommendation (from Mueller), that they were pursuing a harsher
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 06:13 PM
Sep 2018

sentence because Papadopulous's lies early on, resulting in Professor Mifsud escaping capture, when he was in the US at the same time as Papadopulous was being interviewed. Mueller was pissed with him over that.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. Okay,Coffee Boy
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 02:47 PM
Sep 2018

will now be on the No fly list,Can not Vote,Pas Ports gone. Job prospects,manual Labor at minimum wage. One screw up in Probation and then back to the can for the five year stint.

He is so screwed.

former9thward

(32,005 posts)
9. What?
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 04:37 PM
Sep 2018

None of that is true. What world are you in? Do you really think he can't fly or have a passport? Of course he can. He can get his voting rights restores upon completion of his 14 days by petition to the court. I don't know what work he has been doing but this conviction won't affect it.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. I he pled to a felony,he goes on the No Fly List,
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 05:35 PM
Sep 2018

and if he wants to fly he needs permission. Yes he can petition,had a family member go down this road,it gets F---n ugly.

former9thward

(32,005 posts)
13. Felons are NOT on the"no fly" lists .
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 06:25 PM
Sep 2018

The no fly list is a list of names of people who have terror links. Period.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. What ever you say,
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 06:40 PM
Sep 2018

can not agree with you statement about no fly. If you name match's a name on the list,get ready to have you life f-ed big time. How do I know,well got a family that has been dealing with this issue for several years. His Corporate Boss has to clear him with the TSA each and ever time he needs to fly to any city for a sales call. And there more crap he has to go through beside this,all because his name matches a name on the TSA no fly.

C-SPAN4me

(14 posts)
8. Why red in the face?
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 04:28 PM
Sep 2018

Out of embarrassment that he "only" got coffee boy to plea guilty to lying to the FBI? Or out of frustration that the JUDGE ultimately decides how long the sentence will be?

There are such things a sentencing guidelines, to which Mueller's team adhered. The recommendation was the maximum under guideline; 6 months. It's not like they can recommend 15 to life when the guidelines are less than a year. That would be ludicrous, and if the judge actually took the recommendation, an extreme abuse of power

I don't know why the judge decided 14 days. Maybe he thought 2 weeks in the pen for a momma's boy policy wonk would SEEM like 6 months.

In any event, coffee boy is a teeny tiny gear in a much bigger machine being systematically taken apart piece by piece by Mueller's team, SDNY, the FBI, the NY AG, the Manhattan DA, and more. No need for red faces anywhere.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
15. Alex van der Zwaan did not cooperate and was given a sentence of 30 days
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 06:41 PM
Sep 2018

Don't know if Pappa D. had very much to spill, if his reduced sentence was only half of what a non-cooperating witness got. Perhaps he corroborated points that other witnesses had already admitted or testified to. Mifsud would have been invaluable to this investigation; it's unfortunate that this little fascist allowed him to get away...and likely get killed.

AwakeAtLast

(14,124 posts)
16. My 80 y/o Trump voting father picked up on that.
Sun Sep 9, 2018, 09:14 PM
Sep 2018

We even had a civil discussion about it. The may be some hope!

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