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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShould Mueller indict Donald J Trump?
There are those that say a sitting President cannot be indicted. However, that is not a settled law, as far as I know?
It would be a challenge that would go all the way to the Supreme Court, I have little doubt.
If Kavanaugh wins confirmation to the Court and the case came before him, the people would ask that he recuse himself from the case. Otherwise, the case would have no legitimacy.
I am of the opinion that Mueller should indict him. I'm sure there is much more than simple obstruction of justice.
It is a question that should be settled by the Supreme Court.
In my opinion, the sooner this happens, the better for our country.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)MontanaMama
(23,314 posts)LandOfHopeAndDreams
(872 posts)He was put there for a reason. Unlike Sessions, he is not going to stand up for the law.
He & Gorsuch will vote as they promised they would.
It will be another Bush V Gore case.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)You better believe that Trump asked him that question point blank, after his hysteria over Sessions recusing himself. Congress won't do anything about him not recusing himself.
The whole thing is rigged.
Our only hope is to win back Congress.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)and not a moment sooner. If Kavanaugh is on the supreme court while Trump is president he will not recuse himself regardless of the will of the people. I think there will be a much better chance of the indictment sticking once Trump is no longer president.
BigmanPigman
(51,591 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Not without total capitulation by all branches and levels of all government and judiciary and military.
CanonRay
(14,101 posts)guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Better to keep indicting lower figures, especially in state level courts, and hope that by 2020 the evidence would be inescapable. The SCOTUS would never sustain Trump's being indicted.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)...but I would not think it would take years to get a decision?
I don't think we can say with certainty how the Court might rule on it?
My question is whether or not our democracy can survive two more years. Personally, I am surprised it has lasted this long. And I think it is hanging by a thread.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)him indirectly which would deny him 2020. Slow trickle of republican indictments will help us win lower races
Golden Raisin
(4,608 posts)through is he is a guaranteed, far-right vote every time and will not recuse himself.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)And the case is certified to the Supreme Court prior to Kavanaugh's taking an oath....could he opine on the case?
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)mountain grammy
(26,621 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)If he indicts he might hold some of the info back for prosecutors.
I want his report to go public with no notice. Just dump it and the evidence on the doorstep of the NYTimes.
ffr
(22,670 posts)That would make the U.S. Constitution, as it pertains to a sitting president, irrelevant. In reverse, a juvenile may not be convicted of crimes they committed prior to turning 18, as an adult. Mueller may be treating the offenses as they pertain to the status of candidate tRump, not president tRump.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I think he'll leave it to Congress, knowing they won't do anything, until Democrats are in power.
He knows any indictment will just be for show, because it will be reversed by the S.Ct., after Mueller's team spending a lot of time, effort, and money going through the indictment process. Although, I imagine Trump will appeal the indictment process before it gets to the point where a Grand Jury is seated.
Take it up with the Supreme Court if you need to.
bluestarone
(16,940 posts)I think we better wait until AFTER NOV.! KAV needs to be stopped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kentuck
(111,095 posts)....although they cannot get him to say that he would recuse himself in any cases involving Trump and the Russia investigation.
I think he could be forced to recuse himself.
If Mueller has the evidence, then he should not hesitate, in my opinion. He should indict.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,790 posts)Muller should present evidence and witnesses to a Grand Jury. They will decide accordingly.
kentuck
(111,095 posts)...that a Grand Jury could indict a ham sandwich.