I predict a Gary Hart downfall for Ryan

[riverwalker]

He is young, (some think) attractive, obsessed with his physique, likes his drink, has a huge inflated ego, now suddenly a rock star with teabilly groupies throwing their red white and blue panties at him. In the mix his general soulless materialistic personality and lack of integrity, plus ruthless ambition and lust for power= trouble, just wait.

[sadbear]

1. I think he just some egg-headed asshole who thinks Ayn Rand had all the answers.

But yes, he is a predator. Not sure if he'll have quite the downfall, though. Once he, and everything he stands for is discredited, he'll just fade away into teabaggerdom.

[monmouth]

2. Did we hear anymore about his pushing that lady a few weeks back at some

event at a hotel. He supposedly was cursing Democrats in a rant. I believe he had had a few drinks..Heard no more about it..Funny that.

[flamingdem]

12. That was on Martha's Vineyard

He sounded like a total creep! No manners at all.

Are you from Monmouth, NJ by the way?

[monmouth]

20. Freehold and Manasquan..n/t

[flamingdem]

21. I have just discovered

that I have roots there. My great+ grandfather was Samuel Fleming who fought the Tories in the American Revolution. I am guessing he's part of the local folklore? That's my impression but I've never been to the area. Manasquan is cited as his birthplace.

[monmouth]

22. The Tories cut through our back yard on their way to Colts Neck from the battlefield

in Tenant (near Englishtown).. Joshua Huddy (I think that was his name) was the Tory they were after for some reason or other and I believe he was hanged there. Fleming is not a name I'm familiar with but if you go to "Battle of Monmouth" at Google there may be some info..

[monmouth]

25. Meant to mention to you there is a Flemington, NJ. Perhaps named after him..n/t

[dragonlady]

24. It was proved that he could not have been there at that time

He cast votes in the House too late at night and too early the next morning to have been where this occurred at the time mentioned. The DU post on this was deleted by the author. It seems this was a case of mistaken identity and it is not in our best interest to continue along this line.

[Chemisse]

30. Thanks for clarifying this.

There are plenty of bad things to feature about Ryan; we sure don't want to focus on a false one.

[elleng]

52. RIGHT! I forgot about that!

Anyone find that thread???

[CK_John]

3. Sounds more like Mel Gibson to me. nt

[RZM]

4. I would think we need more personal info about him first

I see three main factors that determine whether or not a politician cheats.

1) Their sex drive/willingness to cheat (are they that type of person in the first place?)
2) The strength of their political ambition (can they forgo temptation for the sake of their career?)
3) The strength of their marriage (is it working?)

I don't know much about one or three in Ryan's case. But he does seem incredibly ambitious, so without further info, I would say it's less likely.

Bill Clinton, for instance, had two in spades, but was pretty weak on one and three. He had a reputation for liking the ladies long before Monica and you could argue that his marriage had a political alliance quality to it. Were he and Hillary private citizens, I kind of doubt their marriage would have survived this long.

Obama, on the other hand, seems to be pretty good on all three. I don't know much about his sex drive, but he's given no indication that he's a womanizer. And he's as ambitious as they come. Plus, he and Michelle seem to have a good enough marriage (at least it seems that way to me). So he's fairly well insulated from temptation.

[riverwalker]

5. looks he married power

wife is wealthy, first husband was Gov. and US Senator.
That usually leads to straying, to prove he is his own man etc.

[cali]

6. please stop posting that ridiculous false claim.

[sadbear]

11. What? First husband?

What am I missing?

[cali]

13. nothing factual.

The poster seems to think that Ryan's wife was once married to David Boren and divorced him in 1975- when she would have been a toddler.

[Jane Austin]

18. Yeah. She was at St. Stephen's with my kids

and my oldest was ten years old then.

[HiPointDem]

49. no. not his wife. i think you were corrected in the other thread.

[Logical]

7. I predict you are dreaming. n-t

[cali]

8. I don't see that happening.

[Kalidurga]

9. Probably not.

Most guys can keep it zipped for a couple of months.

[gulliver]

10. He wants to tell people he ordered the Code Red

I think he is going to crack too. He has two kinds of pictures on the Internet. One where he is riding high and blowing kisses, the other where he looks crestfallen and pinned to the floor.

[FSogol]

14. Paul Ryan will never be able to produce a long form birth certifiate showing he isn't

a bug-eyed homunculus.

[starroute]

15. Ryan seems to be pretty sex scandal-free

But googling around suggests he might be tied to some of the dirt that has been coming out on the Wisconsin GOP since the Democrats retook the majority in the state senate. I don't know enough about Wisconsin politics to get all the implications -- but this seems to be saying that the gerrymandering pushed through by the GOP may have been not only partisan but illegal, and that Ryan was deeply involved.

http://cognidissidence.blogspot.com/2012/08/caucus-scandal-2011-edition.html

When the Democrats regained control of the senate, one of things that did happen is that they were able to get their hands on all the documents regarding the gerrymandering. When these became available, most of the media focused on the partisanship of the gerrymandering and how it was obviously meant to infringe on voters' rights. While this is undeniably true, it is also only part of the story.

For example, there is one email from Andy Speth, who is Paul Ryan's Chief of Staff:

"Thank you for being available to participate in the call this afternoon with the Speaker, the Majority Leader and Congressman Ryan. The purpose of the call is to get everyone on the same page as far as the process and timing of the congressional redistricting map is concerned." . . .

I also find it curious why the Fitzgerald boys and Ryan were having their staffers and political aides involved in a process that was so super secret that they had to have all the legislators sign secrecy pacts. Was it secret to give them an advantage or was it secret to hide the fact that they were practicing illegal politics?

[Anansi1171]

16. I agree and would wager money as well

Being a bit of a road warrior. I see it too often. The fact they mentioned he sleeps at his office on the Hill and jets home on weekends. And this morning I saw one piece of footage where he was gaze-caught with some blond in the background. No question, in my mind, for all the reasons you mentioned.

[SidDithers]

17. Long live Hart2008!...nt

Sid

[Tanuki]

19. We have plenty of legitimate ammunition in his political and economic policies.

Why resort to baseless mudslinging and projection? He is already terrible enough.

[Justice wanted]

23. I hate to be rude BUT with all that you mention I wouldn't be surprised if he might have an intern

or two already in his closet.

[Honeycombe8]

27. No, I don't get that from him. By accounts I read, he's very much the family man. He doesn't

live in Washington. He sleeps in his office and goes home every weekend.

It'll be interesting to see a pic of the wife. I bet she's pretty.

Besides, he comes from a wealthy family and has always had his pick of women, I would guess. Sometimes that kind of guy sows his wild oats before he settles down.

I'm also sure that Romney vetted him pretty well on that score. Romney's pretty straight laced and a devoted family man.

[boppers]

35. "I bet she's pretty"?????

face+palm

[MrSlayer]

39. Why is that a face palm?

Rich, powerful guys get trophy wives all the time.

[boppers]

40. Assuming that a man has a trophy wife, well....

face+palm

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Elizabeth+Edwards+Testifies+Medical+Debt+Bankruptcy+5R2M_5hgXQPl.jpg

[MrSlayer]

50. You're right.

I've changed my mind.

[Honeycombe8]

57. That was a bad example.

Elzabeth Edwards, the babe, when John Edwards dated then married her:








The Elizabeth Edwards that John abandoned for a hot babe:

[Honeycombe8]

56. Yep. You made the case. She was a babe when he married her. When she lost her looks, he looked

elsewhere.

She was very pretty when he married her, as well as very smart, an up and comer herself, and very popular. There were good reasons for him to marry her. It worked out well for him, financially. Then she became obese, lost her looks, and he went trolling. Typical.

[riderinthestorm]

41. Janna Little Ryan is a clone of Ann Rmoney. They could be sisters

Both of them from politically connected, wealthy families. Both blonde. Both SAHM.

[Honeycombe8]

58. What's SAHM? nt

[riderinthestorm]

59. Stay At Home Mom. Sorry, its such a common acronym I forget some people don't recognize it.nt

[Honeycombe8]

55. Yeah, I bet so. Handsome up and comer wealthy guy married babe. That's the way it usu. is, isn't it?

But maybe you live in la la land, where good looking rich men marry homely poor women. Yeah, right.

[Gin]

54. There was a story about congressmen

Sleeping in their offices...basically living there for everything.....for free.......does he get a housing allowance?

[Douglas Carpenter]

28. Speculating on what he might have done without a smidgen of evidence is just plain unethical

ANYONE could say ANYTHING about ANYONE - based on that kind of depraved and dirty minded thinking. We have plenty of material to use against Paul Ryan on things that really do matter. We don't have to speculate one little bit on matters that are no one's business and don't affect the lives of countless millions like his unmistakable record on policy proposals.

[onenote]

29. Is there the slightest evidence for any of the OP's claims?

[ailsagirl]

31. He's SINGULARLY unattractive--in all ways

[smirkymonkey]

43. I'll second that.

For some strange reason, I really, really hate that guy.

[ailsagirl]

45. That IS strange, alright

[WinkyDink]

32. Nope; not going to happen.

[graywarrior]

33. He's a freakin' hall monitor!

Nobody likes hall monitors.

[LadyHawkAZ]

34. Yes, but try to remember

there were women willing to sleep with Newt.

[graywarrior]

37. Dear gawd, thanks for the visual.

[ailsagirl]

46. I'll second THAT!

[Canuckistanian]

36. Oh, yes?

Hmmm, I see your point. Type 'A' personality, vain, obsessed with his body, sudden fame in D.C......

Yup, just counting the hours....

[ailsagirl]

47. "obsessed with his body"? Really?

I must confess that I know zip about him, but I do know he's seems pretty unremarkable.

[WI_DEM]

38. Why do people say he's attractive?

[LadyHawkAZ]

42. White + rich/powerful + under 50 + not totally gray + not totally wrinkled

= "attractive" to the US media.

[jwirr]

48. We can hope.

[southernyankeebelle]

51. You know a couple of years back I saw a piece they did where he was at a real nice

Dinner place to eat in DC with some Lobbyists. He was trying to hide from not being seen. He was serving to his guests $400.00 bottles of expensive whine. I wonder how the teabaggers are going to like that.

[Botany]

53. Why post this internet junk?

All men (me included) are attracted to sex ..... it has nothing to do with
Rs v Ds. Plenty of dirt already on Ryan is out there w/out making up shit
that may or may not happen. And even if Paul were to have an affair that
is none of my business .... that is why they call it a "private life."

BTW breaking news rich and powerful men get laid

[amandabeech]

60. I think that we'll find him in a cabin cruiser on Lake Geneva (Wisconsin--maybe his district)

with a few cases of PBR and the Swedish-American bikini team from Green Bay wearing green and gold bikinis.

Oh, and some curds.