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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 10:26 PM Sep 2018

If John Dowd was Trump's personal lawyer (not WH counsel),

and a lot of the stuff in Woodward's book seems to have come from Dowd, what happened to the attorney-client privilege? Wouldn't Dowd have violated it if he talked to Woodward, even if under "deep background," about the legal advice he gave Trump?

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If John Dowd was Trump's personal lawyer (not WH counsel), (Original Post) The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 OP
I don't think the information came from Dowd marylandblue Sep 2018 #1
From my reading of the book it sounds like the quotes did come directly from Dowd. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #2
Right. But if other people were in the room, Dowd could be the source EffieBlack Sep 2018 #3
He still can't say anything bad about his client marylandblue Sep 2018 #4
unfactual post edhopper Sep 2018 #5
No, it pertains to ANY communication between a lawyer and a client The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #6
All the stuff about Donald wanting to be interviewed BootinUp Sep 2018 #7
Doesn't matter if the info was already public. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #10
Fine. Disbar him and move on. nt shanny Sep 2018 #8
That's not up to me. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2018 #9
Didn't think it was. shanny Sep 2018 #11

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. I don't think the information came from Dowd
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 10:31 PM
Sep 2018

There must have been other people in the room who told Woodward about it. If other people are there, no attorney-client privilege. Although an attorney still can't disparage a client in private or in public.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
2. From my reading of the book it sounds like the quotes did come directly from Dowd.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 10:34 PM
Sep 2018

If someone else had been present for conversations with Trump then the privilege wouldn't apply, but he might have been on the edge, if not over it, with some of this stuff.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
3. Right. But if other people were in the room, Dowd could be the source
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 10:34 PM
Sep 2018

without violating attorney-client privilege since, as you correctly noted, the presence of third parties obviates any privilege.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
4. He still can't say anything bad about his client
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 10:41 PM
Sep 2018

But if it was on background, and since he probably hates Trump like everyone else does, then maybe he would say it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
6. No, it pertains to ANY communication between a lawyer and a client
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 10:59 PM
Sep 2018

if the communication involved the giving of legal advice, and no one else was present. It can have to do with any kind of civil matter as well as criminal cases, and it doesn't even have to involve litigation. If you ask a lawyer for advice about your will, or a contract or a real estate transaction those conversations are just as privileged as discussions about a criminal case, and the lawyer can't reveal what was said without your consent. The privilege is almost absolute - the only exception involves situations where the lawyer is a participant in the client's crime or fraud.

BootinUp

(47,141 posts)
7. All the stuff about Donald wanting to be interviewed
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 11:11 PM
Sep 2018

And his lawyers Dowd’s advice about it, was already made public. Long time ago, like b4 he left.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
10. Doesn't matter if the info was already public.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 11:26 PM
Sep 2018

A lawyer still can't repeat the content of privileged conversations.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
11. Didn't think it was.
Tue Sep 11, 2018, 11:29 PM
Sep 2018

But I'm not going to spend any time worrying about the ethics of Dowd's revelations. He made his bed, so to speak, and so have a whole bunch of more consequential people.

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