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kentuck

(111,088 posts)
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:36 PM Sep 2018

The Repubs rolled the dice on Donald Trump.

They believed they could make it to election day without a drastic drop in his approval rating. They felt they could survive the upcoming election unless the bottom dropped out on Donald Trump. They felt secure with his numbers.

But, in the latest round of polls, he has seen dramatic drops in his approval ratings, especially among Independent voters. One poll had him at 32% in overall approval. That must be frightening for the Republicans running in November? Will they have time to correct course?

If they lose big in November, as many suspect they will, they will have a decision to make. Will they stick with the "idiot" or do they toss him overboard? How much more proof will they need that he is too toxic even for them?

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enough

(13,259 posts)
2. They rolled the dice on him and they won. Two new young right wing Justices,
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:47 PM
Sep 2018

a packed judiciary, massive corporate tax cuts, racial divisiveness — everything they always wanted.

If they toss him overboard it’s because they won’t need him anymore.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
4. A perfect description of "pure selfishness".Yes. they will "toss him overboard." That's who they are
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:54 PM
Sep 2018

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
8. +7
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:41 PM
Sep 2018

lots of people talking about how they failed with him, but they were wildly successful and they won in states that had been reliably Democratic for decades. they got their blood money, their racism, their anti-immigrant bullshit EOs, and their misogynist judiciary. over the next 2 decades, their stacked courts will do real damage to formerly-reliable institutions of this society. this is "winning" to them. they did it.

we weren't even playing the same games, which is why we're pointing at the chessboard crowing "mate in 2 moves" while they're already dancing it up in the endzone 500ft away. the long-term question is, what will it cost them?


kentuck

(111,088 posts)
10. They got their Justices and their tax break....
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:06 PM
Sep 2018

...but they may pay a very high price? Perhaps for a very long time?

PatrickforO

(14,571 posts)
12. I'll go with that. It will take sane people YEARS to clean up all this
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:47 PM
Sep 2018

damage Trump has done. I mean, we're going to have to go line by line and look at every little thing.

bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
3. In the end, the monster kills Baron Frankenstein and all he loves.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 12:50 PM
Sep 2018

It’s the Trumplican party and it is a violent,embittered and aggrieved monster.

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
7. well, George W* is heading out to campaign for Senate candidates...
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 05:54 PM
Sep 2018

....and so it doesn't look like establishment Republicans are abandoning Trump. Or "correcting course."

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
9. How didn't Republicans understand - by March 2018 - that moderation would serve them better
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 06:59 PM
Sep 2018

Their party discipline - if it is that rather than a code of silence - will be their undoing

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
11. I disagree, strongly, for three reasons.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 07:44 PM
Sep 2018

First, Trump & the GOP ran on two values: racism & conservative Christianity - not that the two don't heavily overlap, because they clearly do.

Second, anyone who thinks the GOP is worried about November has faith that the elections will be open, honest and transparent. And the GOP has already shown that they'll not do a thing to bring that about.

Third, GOP voters may turn to hate Trump. But when they do, they'll love Pence all the more. None of which will affect their love for the rest of the racist, sexist, ableist GOP.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
16. I think the GOP is worried about November. I also think the GOP cheats. Not mutually exclusive.
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 01:07 AM
Sep 2018

The GOP relies heavily on voter suppression, gerrymandering and other forms of corruption. This upcoming election is no different in that regard, but their hope is to minimize the damage.

GOP voters won't come to hate Trump. If any Republican Representatives vote for impeachment and any Republican Senators vote for Trump's removal from office, those Republicans can expect to be primaried in their next election. Cult45, a monster of the GOP's making, poses a real dilemma for the Republican Party.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. The problem for them is that he's their base's most beloved politician.
Wed Sep 12, 2018, 11:09 PM
Sep 2018

Trump's overall approval rating is in the mid- to high-30s, but his approval rating among Republicans is incredibly high. That puts Republicans in a tough spot.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
15. They actually made this choice a long time ago. They decided to go way right, way low even
Thu Sep 13, 2018, 12:42 AM
Sep 2018

before Obama. And they've rejected every overture for moderation and progress since.

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