Local Catholic Church insert in Sunday Paper: ROE V WADE ON THE BRINK? Shame on them.

[jodymarie aimee]

I happened to pick up the bulletin(Sunday newsletter you get at the Mass) from St Peter's Catholic Church Stevens Point, WI....the usual stuff...when out fell a blue 8x10 insert page Titled: ROE V WADE ON THE BRINK?

It invites all to ....

"a forum Oct 23( just prior to election day, I see) where the speaker, Ben Nguyen, will talk about the 1973 SC ruling Roe v Wade, which has been in the news almost daily since the SC nomination of Brett Kavanaugh. There is a sense that the addition of Kavanaugh to the high court might lead to the overturning of Roe v Wade. Of course that prospect fills pro-lifers with hope and abortion rights activists with dread.

You will be blessed if you can make it on Oct 23. It is a striking fact that even many legal experts who support abortion believe Roe v Wade was poorly reasoned in light of the Constitution. But in the midst of the heated national debate, can we as Catholics, who support the sanctity of every human life, explain why?

How does Roe v Wade square with the Constitution? How did the Court justify it? Where has that decision led? What would happen if Rod v Wade were overturned? What's he biggest takeaway from all this for a Catholic? What do we really know about Roe v Wade, beyond the fact that it legalized abortion in all 50 states? As a civil and canon lawyer, and as a teacher with a knack for boiling things down for the average person...

We need to pray, we need to advocate on behalf of life and we need to be informed..."
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Back to me: Yeah, informed by this "expert Catholic guy" !! I find this obscene, this blatant Republican voter proseltizing.....I will guarantee these folks put Bush in, Trump in, and will continue to vote the way their Church tells them to. I have alot of clergy in my family, incl my Dad who became a priest in his 40s, and he would NEVER stoop to this crap. Serving in the Navy at 17 in WW 2, he was an American and he knew what separation of church and state meant.

I would ask that any comments stick to this topic, and not seguey to sex abuse. This OP is about telling parishoners how to vote.

[gratuitous]

1. This is issue-oriented advocacy

And as such, 100% within in the law. The Catholic Church is also on record as being against the death penalty. Numerous religious and other non-profit agencies lobby lawmakers to end poverty, alleviate hunger, and house the homeless.

If this is an open forum, it might be a useful exercise to research and organize alternative arguments from what you can probably guess will be presented. Are women allowed to have the same bodily autonomy as men? Are women entitled to make their own health care decisions, or should the government interpose itself, by law, to influence a woman's health care decision? Should those governmental interventions be based on science, or on a particular reading of non-scientific texts?

That should do for a start.

[jodymarie aimee]

2. I have been a Catholic for 67 years, and sadly

the church you refer to was in the 1950s and 1960s...the church of 2018 is Republican. While your scenario is lovely, if I did any type of argument, I would be shouted out of the forum.

[gratuitous]

5. That's entirely possible

There is a way to find out for sure.

[malaise]

3. They need kids

To abuse

[rurallib]

4. With apologies to your father, first and foremost the Catholic Church is a business

so advertising their product with an insert in the Sunday paper seems to be a good business practice. In this case anti-abortion is their product.

It seems strange that religious people would champion the cause of a sleaze like Kavanaugh, but they are all in with Trump so backing Kavanaugh isn't out of their league.

The business aspect of the church couple with the rampant hypocrisy were two of the main reasons I left Catholicism as quickly as I could.

[Dawson Leery]

7. The RCC will continue losing members until they realize

this is the 21st century and the majority are not going to take their blatant hypocrisy anymore.

[rurallib]

8. And many now will question their unfounded assertions

[WhiteTara]

6. Are they just looking for new babies to abuse?

[moondust]

9. New babies to

keep filling the pews and coughing up money for the very wealthy Catholic Church.

[WhiteTara]

10. abuse is only collateral damage

to the very wealthy of every religion.