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DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:33 PM Sep 2018

Don't compare Al Franken to Kavanaugh

Kavanaugh has been accused of trapping a woman in a room, muffling her screams, and attempting to tear her clothes off. He has already committted PERJURY which makes his denials of attempted rape pretty difficult to take seriously.

As for Franken, that famous "groping" photo on the plane was SATIRE. There is no comparison. And Franken did it fully in the presence of observers who could check his behavior if he crossed any lines. The photo, carefully inspected, shows no actual contact. It was satirical in the spirit of goofy satire that his accuser had established hours earlier when she ACTUALLY grabbed the ass of a bass player on stage. And she even grapped another performer with her legs as video of that USO tour has shown beyond the shadow of a doubt. She was performing SATIRE too. (And only "came forward" after a push by Trump adviser Roger Stone).

That means BOTH Franken and his accuser were mocking the act of groping with her involvement in the theatrics. To mock something, to perform satire, is actually in the GREAT TRADITION of Vaudeville theater. It is a method of establishing our principles. i.e. actual gropping is over the line.

So the problem here is not Al Franken, but the American education system which doesn't teach the public (including quite a few congressional folks) anything about Vaudeville, a stylized satirical art form at the historical root of Hollywood comedy. The public has learned nothing about the critical role satire in general plays in both the arts and in human behaviour.

Furthermore, Franken is Jewish and since giving up his SNL career, still conducts his photo ops in an affectionate, theatrical fashion which seems to have thrown off a few WASP associates (as a WASP myself I am a veritable expert on this colder culture!). And Franken's short so instead of placing his arms around shoulders, he puts them around people's waists. So what!!!

And finally all of his colleagues from the comedy world, including Saturday Night Live, signed a letter stating he was a wonderful human being.

So establishing Franken's behavior as a line we shouldn't cross places hundreds of humorless Democrats, Republicans and their operatives beneath him.

NOTE: If there was actual poor behavior we never had a chance to address it because the pogrom against this comedy genius prevented an actual investigation. And he even invited an investigation. Mob justice thwarted due process. Period.

Might I add that picking on short, Jewish former comedians is a form of bullying? Shame on all who indulged in that mob behavior. I'm looking forward to an investigation and apologies from all who bullied Franken if all they had against him was about goofy satire and photo-ops.

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Don't compare Al Franken to Kavanaugh (Original Post) DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 OP
The Man got Wellstone ruled Sep 2018 #1
Comparing the Two Senators is a Bogus False Equivalency dlk Sep 2018 #2
A senator and a judge, but I hear you! DemocracyMouse Sep 2018 #3
Don't expect any consideration from that lot of Senators. LakeArenal Sep 2018 #4
Brava! Sick of seeing that. democratic friend Sep 2018 #5

dlk

(11,578 posts)
2. Comparing the Two Senators is a Bogus False Equivalency
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 12:42 PM
Sep 2018

It’s a GOP and MSM specialty. After all this time, we shouldn’t be fooled.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
3. A senator and a judge, but I hear you!
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 01:05 PM
Sep 2018

Also, I want to stress that SATIRIZING the act of groping, as Franken had, can actually be construed to be a good thing, especially when the woman being "mock groped" was mock gropping too (she had, just hours earlier, grabbed the ass of a bass player on stage).

Franken's satire and Kavanaugh's attempted rape are opposites.

What I'm saying is "get a brain America!"

LakeArenal

(28,855 posts)
4. Don't expect any consideration from that lot of Senators.
Mon Sep 17, 2018, 01:15 PM
Sep 2018

Gillibrand has doubled and tripled down on every show that questioned her. Schumer has as well.
I haven’t heard Booker double down on his decision on the Railroad, but doesn’t mean he hasn’t.

So disappointing and something they are going to have to address if they want my support in any presidential aspirations.

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