I think Kavanaugh is afraid of an FBI investigation for more than one reason.

[madaboutharry]

I believe that Dr. Ford is telling the truth. I think Kavanaugh knows she is telling the truth. I think Mark Judge also knows what the truth is.

I think in addition to the FBI presenting corroborating evidence that supports Dr. Ford, I think Kavanaugh fears what else the FBI is going to find. I think there are stories out there concerning Kavanaugh's behavior that may reveal things that are so far unknown to the public.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Of course, and yet as horrible as he is, GOP loves him the way they love

that pile of shit traitor in the WH

Talk is over, done.

We are in a war, being taken over by Putin and Nazis.

[saidsimplesimon]

2. Eliot, you surprise me sometimes

Something we can agree on as fellow Democrats, bravo or brava

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. While I am on a roll

NEVER go into business with a con.

Trust me on this one.

[RKP5637]

3. Absolutely!!! And so many Americans IMO still do not get WTF is going on. n/t

[byronius]

8. Hard truth, there.

[Maven]

11. Yes we are.

Anyone who fails to recognize that is a fool. There is no democratic legitimacy to anything that the GOP is currently doing. This is what cold civil war (with help to one side from an outside invader) looks like.

[Grasswire2]

4. yes

Of course. And McConnell knew it early on. But how would McConnell know, if there had not been an investigation somehow that was reported only to a few at the top?

Maybe it's time to get Don McGahn under oath. He's the one in the WH that pushed for Kavanaugh.

[Jarqui]

5. The FBI looking at that $200,000 in credit card debt that

got mysteriously paid off would probably find out the truth

[BigmanPigman]

6. And his gambling problem.

I read that the GOP was concerned about this as his main problem (before the sexual assault allegations were known). I bet he has a ton of stuff in his closet. The FBI had better go through it all with a fine tooth comb.

[pangaia]

9. The GOP knows all the shit he has in his life.. you are absolutely right...

Just another of their immoral cover-ups.

[SHRED]

42. Rosenstein and Kavanaugh are good friends

So there is that.

[BigmanPigman]

43. That seems like an "odd couple".

I never understood how such two seemingly different people can get along so well. I know that with married couples there is a certain balance (like Carville and Matalin) but I don't think I could handle that sort of yin/yang relationship, even between close friends.

[dalton99a]

12. +1

[True Blue American]

25. Thank you

That was what I was just thinking.,plus the fact he lived in an exclusive neighborhood.but that loan needs to be explained .

McConnell tried to talk Trump out of choosing him, bu he would protect Trump.

[DRoseDARs]

26. How delish if it was Russian money that paid it off? nt

[forgotmylogin]

46. Hell, they run a credit check on you to work at many jobs.

Usually, too many red flags pop up, you go in the circular file, whether it's true or not.

From what I understand talking to HR people I know, even a "note to file" about sexual harassment in a previous job, warranted or not, is a good reason to put a candidate on the bottom of the pile, if not rule them out completely.

[PaulX2]

7. Already Said Pretty Much Same Thing

Kavanaugh Does Not Want An Investigation Because He Knows It Will Show Attempted Rape

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211153192

[robbob]

24. Well, yes and no...

I don’t know how the FBI can prove an attempted rape that happened decades ago. Especially when the only other witness (besides victim and aggressor) is a scumbag who has already claimed he has no recollection of the events, and can safely continue to do so by merely claiming he was black out drunk at most of these parties.

OTOH, there is some evidence that the gop is concerned about more skeletons in Kav’s closet that would possibly come to light under an FBI investigation.

[spooky3]

30. here is how:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211154734

[robbob]

39. Hmm...not sure I agree.

Everything in that op indicates the likelihood that Dr. Ford is telling the truth, but nothing there PROVES it in a court of law.

[spooky3]

40. But remember we are not dealing with a trial here.

We are looking at whether a man engaged in actions that should disqualify him for a job with a lifetime appointment.

[robbob]

41. And in any normal times he would have already been disqualified

...if everything I’ve read here is true. But these aren’t normal times, as we all know and those ratfucker scumbags will ram this through with anything short of literally proving the attempted rape allegations.

But hopefully enough shit is hitting the fan that the nomination will be withdrawn, and the reThugs with limp away whining about the unfairness of it all, etc. etc.

Anyway, my original point was that I don’t really see how an FBI investigation can definitely prove anything one way or the other, but there may be a whole bunch of other skeletons in the closet that could finally sink this rancid ship.

[louis c]

10. GAMBLING ADDICTION

Kavanaugh might not be able to get into the MLB Hall of Fame. But Trump wants him on the Supreme Court

[lagomorph777]

15. +1 and perjury, aiding and abetting theft of Democratic Senate data, etc etc.

He has serious legal and political exposure in multiple areas.

[greymattermom]

13. So if he is that worried,

shouldn't he withdraw as soon as the FBI starts asking questions? You'd think a judge would have gone through some sort of investigation that would flag a gambling problem. Could he lose is current job?

[Duppers]

20. Exactly!

Their bluffs are going to run out sooner or later.

[Hortensis]

14. Anyone else remembering the charges of CRIMINAL behaviors

made by Democratic senators on the judicial committee in the first week of hearings? They claim to have hard evidence and believe there's more in the millions of documents being hidden from scrutiny.

Am I too much of an idealist? Are being a serial perjurer and a thief not cause for denying him a lifetime appointment to SCOTUS? I should just believe his testimony under oath that he won't gleefully set our right to privacy on fire and toss that on a gasoline-soaked bonfire made of our social safety network?

No point in even mentioning severe ethical violations and questions of very bad character raised by many behaviors in his professional life? Any one of which, if true, requires refusal to confirm?

You bet O'Connell and Kavanaugh fear investigation for more than one reason, any one of which will force withdrawal. Even delay during investigation is a severe threat because of what might turn up. That's why ALL investigations are refused as they try to ram him through.

[bucolic_frolic]

16. I suspected a crook from Day One

[calimary]

17. Yep. That's a TELL. He expects us to just take his word for it.

So he’ll be lying under oath again?

[neohippie]

18. Just found from Kavanaugh College daze

Oh My, that Kavanaugh will have to explain this to his daughters


text from tweet with picture of article in Yale Daily News

In today's Yale Daily News: what Brett Kavanaugh was up to back in his school days, when he belonged to a secret society known as "tit and clit". Motto: No means yes. Yes means anal.

Link to tweet

Here is text from the story in Yale Daily News

A flag of underwear: Photo from Kavanaugh’s time shows DKE hijinks
HAILEY FUCHS & BRITTON O'DALY 12:34 AM, SEP 20, 2018

STAFF REPORTERS


Yale Daily News

In an Aug. 30 letter to leaders of the Senate Judiciary Committee, female college classmates of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh ’87 LAW ’90 testified to the judge’s respect for women, praising his character and his support for female athletics at Yale.

But in his first year of college, Kavanaugh joined an organization notorious for disrespecting women: the campus chapter of the Delta Kappa Epsilon fraternity.

A photograph that appeared in the Yale Daily News on Jan. 18, 1985, shows Kavanaugh’s fraternity brothers waving a flag woven from women’s underwear as part of a procession of DKE initiates marching across Yale’s campus. Kavanaugh does not appear in the photograph. But the portrait it paints of casual disrespect for women seems noteworthy in light of the explosive allegation by California psychology professor Christine Blasey Ford that Kavanaugh attempted to sexually assault her at a high school party almost 40 years ago.

In the 1985 photo, the DKE pledges — “fondly known as ‘buttholes,’” according to the caption — brandish a flag made of underwear and brasiers as they march outside Woodbridge Hall, Yale’s central administrative building. At the time, Bartlett Giamatti, the University’s president, was a former DKE brother himself.

Although the flag may seem shocking by today’s standards, the photograph appeared in 1985 under the tongue-in-cheek headline “DKE AT PLAY.” At the time of the escapades, Kavanaugh — who does not appear in the photo — was a sophomore, already inducted into the fraternity.

In a letter to the editor published in the News three days later, a Yale student, Rachel Eisler ’86, charged that DKE’s pledge antics “demean women.” She wrote that she approached one of the pledges carrying the flag to ask whether any briefs or jockstraps were affixed to the pole. “Well, I didn’t make it,” the pledge responded, according to the letter. He then said he doubted that any “guys’ stuff” would be woven into the flag.

“‘But hey,’” he told the female student, according to the letter. “‘Your panties might be here!”

Steve Gallo ’88, a member of DKE’s 1985 pledge class, said on Wednesday that the flag “was just somebody’s stupid idea” and that the underwear was “obtained consensually.”

During the fraternity’s “pledge week,” he recalled, the frat’s upperclassmen would send the new recruits out “for fun to talk to Yale women on their behalf.” Occasionally, he said, DKE brothers would send new recruits on “scavenger hunts” to find specific objects on campus.

“Pledges might ask for help from women they knew — or maybe the guy who sent them knew — to complete an item on the list,” Gallo said. “I am almost certain that is where any women’s undergarments would have come from … women people knew donating them willingly to play along.”

But in a comment on a post in the YaleWomen Facebook page, Jennifer Lew ’87, a classmate of Kavanaugh’s, recalled that DKE brothers would ransack women’s rooms while they were in class to collect undergarments. Another alumnus, Julie Klein ’87, described DKE as an “animal house.”

In addition to DKE, Kavanaugh also belonged to Truth and Courage, one of Yale’s secret societies for seniors. Among some students, the all-male club, which was popular with athletes, was known by the nickname “Tit and Clit.”

Truth and Courage fizzled out of existence in the early 2010s. But since Kavanaugh’s graduation in 1987, DKE’s reputation for mistreating women at Yale has only grown. Yale banned DKE from campus for five years in 2011 after videos circulated of fraternity recruits chanting “no means yes, yes means anal” in front of the University’s Women’s Center.

And this spring, the University launched an investigation into the fraternity’s sexual climate after reports in the Yale Daily News and Business Insider documented sexual assault allegations against more than half a dozen members, including the fraternity’s former president.

Kavanaugh does not appear to have spoken publicly about his time in DKE. But in a speech to the Yale Law School Federalist Society in 2014, he recounted “falling out of [a] bus onto the front steps of the Yale Law School at about 4:45 a.m.” after a night of bar-hopping in Boston, according to a partial transcript of the speech published in Mother Jones.

Not everybody at Yale in the 1980s remembers DKE as wild and misogynistic. Sam Chauncey ’57, a longtime Yale administrator, said this summer that “DKE was pretty tame back in Kavanaugh’s time.”

But “tame” was not the word that came to Eisler’s mind when she saw the DKE flag in 1985.

“I was totally shocked that something like that would happen at Yale,” recalled Eisler, who wrote the letter to the editor and now works as a high school English teacher in Maryland.

“Even when I describe going up to them and talking to them, I was asking them out of disbelief,” she said.

Hailey Fuchs | [e-mail]

Britton O’Daly | britton.o’[e-mail]

[Duppers]

23. Wow! Please put this into an OP for more exposure.

Thanks.

[Bayard]

27. HOLY CRAP!!

Any pics of The Brett-ster in this group?

What a nice group of young men.

[bdamomma]

47. How disgusting

no means yes????? didn't his mother or even his father teach him how to respect girls/women??? These uppity ups, think they are entitled to treat women like that??? WTF!

[dlk]

19. Kavanaugh's Gambling May Be an Additional Reason

No telling what lies under that rock.

[dlk]

21. It Could Be His Gambling

No telling what lies under that rock.

[lunatica]

22. I think you're right!

Too damn many cockroaches under that rock!

[Owens]

29. Disappearing Debt

I wanna know how Kavanaugh's debt suddenly disappeared overnight and who paid it and therefore who is Kavanaugh indebted to.

[catbyte]

31. This Mother Jones article outlines his shady financial dealings:

The Many Mysteries of Brett Kavanaugh’s Finances

Who made the down payment on his house? How did he come up with $92,000 in country club fees?

Stephanie Mencimer September 13, 2018 2:25 PM

Before President Donald Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, he had a lot of debt. In May 2017, he reported owing between $60,004 and $200,000 on three credit cards and a loan against his retirement account. By the time Trump nominated him to the high court in July 2018, those debts had vanished. Overall, his reported income and assets didn’t seem sufficient to pay off all that debt while maintaining his upper-class lifestyle: an expensive house in an exclusive suburban neighborhood, two kids in a $10,500-a-year private school, and a membership in a posh country club reported to charge $92,000 in initiation fees. His financial disclosure forms have raised more questions than they’ve answered, leading to speculation about whether he’s had a private benefactor and what sorts of conflicts that relationship might entail.

No other recent Supreme Court nominee has come before the Senate with so many unanswered questions regarding finances. That’s partly because many of Kavanaugh’s predecessors were a lot richer than he is. Chief Justice John Roberts, for instance, had been making $1 million a year in private practice before joining the DC Circuit as a judge. The poorer nominees had debts, but explainable ones, such as the $15,000 Sonia Sotomayor owed to her dentist. Neil Gorsuch came the closest to financial scandal when he disclosed that he owned a mountain fishing lodge in Colorado with two men who are top deputies to the billionaire Philip F. Anschutz, who had championed Gorsuch’s nomination.

Kavanaugh’s finances are far more mysterious. During his confirmation hearing last week, he escaped a public discussion of his spending habits because no senator asked about it. But on Tuesday, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, sent Kavanaugh 14 pages of post-hearing follow-up questions, many of which involved his finances. On Thursday, Kavanaugh supplied answers, but he dodged some of the questions and left much of his financial situation unexplained.

A number of the questions Whitehouse sent Kavanaugh dealt with the house he bought in tony Chevy Chase, Maryland, in 2006 for $1.225 million. Kavanaugh would have needed $245,000 in cash for the traditional 20 percent down payment on the house. But in 2005, when his nomination to the DC Circuit was pending, Kavanaugh reported a total net worth to the Senate of about $91,000, which reflected a mere $10,000 in the bank and $25,000 in credit card debt. According to his financial disclosure forms before and after the purchase of his house in 2006, Kavanaugh’s liquid assets and bank balances never totaled more than $65,000, and those balances didn’t decline after the purchase of the house.

......snip

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/09/the-many-mysteries-of-brett-kavanaughs-finances/

[GoCubsGo]

32. Randi Rhodes is also discussing this.

She points out that he makes $200,000/year, yet still managed to purchase a house for $1.2 million, even without having enough money for even a 10% downpayment. No doubt this is part of the reason the Greedy Old Perverts are refusing to release 97% of this dirtbag's documents.

[Eyeball_Kid]

33. Kavanaugh can lie his ass off with Senators.

Lying to the FBI, however, is a felony. Kavanaugh is lying about numerous issues.

[relayerbob]

34. No one does that just once

[onenote]

35. Kavanaugh has been through several FBI background checks

What makes you think the FBI is going to find out things they didn't find out before? They'll decide who to question. And if folks didn't come forward before, and given what they're seeing in terms of the horrific treatment of Prof. Ford, do you think they'll come forward voluntarily now?

[Honeycombe8]

37. This wouldn't be a background check.

This is a check on a specific incident, which would involve different research and interviews that they wouldn't do for a regular background check.

[Lee-Lee]

48. No it would just be a background check into the incident

That’s all the FBI can do. It’s not a federal crime so they can’t investigate it as a criminal matter.

[uponit7771]

53. They can interview him right? There's LITTLE reason ...

... reason why he hasn't gone along with Ford to ask for interview with the FBI in regards to the incident at the least.

Unless he doesn't want to lie to them

[Honeycombe8]

36. There's no doubt that Ford is telling the truth. The Repubs don't care, though.

"Boys will be boys."
"Don't ruin a man's career because of one mistake he made when he was a kid."

We all know the drill.

[MaryMagdaline]

38. I suspect he's another Bill Bennett

Degenerate gambler

[Totally Tunsie]

44. Excuse me, but those "scavenger hunts" are actually typically known as

"PANTY RAIDS". The process is pretty similar, no matter what college campus is involved. Women aren't asked "for help", the panties weren't "donated", and the women's rooms weren't ransacked while they were in class. I guarantee that.

I went to a college adjacent to Brown University in Providence, RI. You could tell the night of a panty raid. It was almost always the first quiet sultry spring evening when the temperatures were warm and the humidity high, usually around 9-10 p.m.. Something in that combo would set the male testosterone in high gear. We could hear them coming. It would start subtley - laughter, chorteling and the like, and would build as they got closer to our dorms. Then came the rush...hundreds of sweaty, horny, and somewhat drunk college dudes charging into our dorms as we scrambled into closets or under our beds until the locusts ran through our rooms, emptied our drawers, put our bras and panties on their head, and met their quota of fineries to take back with them. If someone got groped or fondled in the process, all the better for them. Sometimes some pretty nasty bruises were inflicted if the women weren't able to get out of the way and hide. It certainly wasn't the friendly, co-operative interaction described in this article. It was an out and out RAID.

During the fraternity’s “pledge week,” he recalled, the frat’s upperclassmen would send the new recruits out “for fun to talk to Yale women on their behalf.” Occasionally, he said, DKE brothers would send new recruits on “scavenger hunts” to find specific objects on campus.

“Pledges might ask for help from women they knew — or maybe the guy who sent them knew — to complete an item on the list,” Gallo said. “I am almost certain that is where any women’s undergarments would have come from … women people knew donating them willingly to play along.”

But in a comment on a post in the YaleWomen Facebook page, Jennifer Lew ’87, a classmate of Kavanaugh’s, recalled that DKE brothers would ransack women’s rooms while they were in class to collect undergarments. Another alumnus, Julie Klein ’87, described DKE as an “animal house.”

[NanceGreggs]

45. My thoughts exactly. n/t

[leftyladyfrommo]

50. If he tried that once like that he and his perverted

friends probably tried it every weekend.

boys will be boys. you know.

[Eliot Rosewater]

51. GAmbling addict, asset PUtin etc

[dawg day]

52. Mark Judge is completely unreliable-

He kept defending a priest-teacher at Georgetown Prep-- insulting the first victim, then years later when there were other allegations and the priest had to resign, declaring that the crimes were somehow the result of "liberalism."

This along with his very in-depth memoir about his high school/college alcoholism, complete with blackouts where he wakes up and hopes he didn't commit violence on a woman, would make him a horrible witness for Kavanaugh, which is, of course, why the Repubs refuse to call him.