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(40,210 posts)There must be so many women and teenage girls who are having intense emotional experiences right now, especially those going through it now or who have recently have suffered an assault.
The republicans are despicable.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)My experience was 29 years ago. I cannot imagine being bombarded with this shit dealing with a more recent assault.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)As if Trump himself wasn't trigger enough. Kavanaugh is overload.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)told a lot of despicable things that are not normal now . Deplorable
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Danascot
(4,690 posts)and be prepared to deploy them if necessary. They also need to know that they're much more likely to be assaulted by a friend, relative or someone they know than a stranger.
train as a boxer or kick-boxer. How many guys would even contemplate assaulting someone like Gina Carano?
I think it's also important to talk to girls (and boys) about the possibility of assault, maybe expanding to let them know it's ok to tell mom/dad/teacher etc anything and s/he won't be mad at you.
We can't always expect justice. We have to take matters into our own hands. When do we as women fight back and say, "Enough. Never again."
Hekate
(90,681 posts)ggmac0427
(38 posts)Teach the boys to be more respectful, but also teach the girls to stay aware.
Hekate
(90,681 posts)I will shortly be 71 -- my mother taught me and her mother taught her and I taught my daughter. There is not a woman alive who does not know "awareness." We are aware.
If you tried to live your life the way we are taught from birth to live ours just in order to not be assaulted, you would feel like you were being incredibly constrained. We are being incredibly constrained -- but it becomes second nature, it's just the way things are. Well, the way things are sucks.
The hazards begin before puberty and continue into old age. The time of maximum hazard is just when a young person begins to spread their wings. Girls' wings are clipped -- "for their own good." And it doesn't even guarantee their safety.
So take this to heart: the problem lies with how boys and men are raised. The sense of entitlement. Knowing that their future is all-important, and when they get to that future, that their career ambitions are all-important. So much more important than any girl's or woman's future or career.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Vigilance requires mental, emotional, and physical energy. It can be exhausting.
And constraints -- how many times are girls lectured to on not attending certain events with classmates, or not taking certain regular jobs, because of event reputation or other knowledge about seemingly innocent congregations of peers?
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)...all girls and young women need to learn how to NOT TO GET DRUNK. Know your limit and stick with it. Don't trust any male you don't know well. Be careful where you go on a date, always be in a public place. I know I sound old-fashioned and maybe I am.
Too many parents have shirked on their responsibility to keep their daughters safe. Parents must teach their daughters how to keep themselves safe. The first thing to teach them is that many/most young men will take advantage, if you give them the advantage. I know that daughters lie to their parents about what they're doing and where they're going. I was a teenage daughter once, and I surely lied to my parents when I thought I could get away with it. The dangers are so much greater now than when I was a teenager in the 60's.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)regarding the treatment of women. It all comes from having a sexist, rapist pig for a president. Like racism, he has made this all seem like one big joke.
calimary
(81,261 posts)in the upcoming midterms.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)and pointed out that 'I never assaulted a girl while I was in high school. Or any other time for that matter.'
Who hasn't my f&ck!ng you know what. I found that statement to be the most reprehensible thing any of them said
Their attitudes sickened me no end. What some people will do and say to defend their side is nauseating
Texin
(2,596 posts)These white, old assholes and their enabling and approving molls, who are telling boys and young men - men in general - that is okay to assault, rape, victim-blame, the victims of such physical attacks and then the subsequent vilification and ridicule of those victims, along with giving a high-five pass at gun violence and armed confrontations by predominately white males, are emboldening and approving of such behaviors. THAT is the language and verbal instruction to the current and future generations of white males in this society. And then they seek to pack the highest court in the land with similar men who will institutionalize this by enacting laws that will box in women and other minorities in perpetuity.
This makes me rage blind.
CountAllVotes
(20,869 posts)Memories I had buried deep inside myself.
I remembered it all when I heard dump's words to "Go home and tell your parents ... *blah blah*".
Well, I did just that!
It was the first job I ever had and it paid $3.00/hr.
The boss man offered to pay me overtime if I'd help him after work. The job was to assist in the purchase/transportation of a new bicycle to his apartment in Diamond Heights in San
Francisco.
We got the bike and off we went to the apartment building to leave it. We drove into the complex (a prison-like cement structure) and as soon as we drove and in I heard the door slam behind us, I knew chaos awaited.
The SOB attempted to rape me. I began screaming and crying. He stopped and took me outside. I ran as fast as I could until I found a bus stop.
The next day I called that job and quit.
I told my parents about why I quit my job and they did not say a word, nope.
So on I went in life seeking another $3.00/hr. job.
I remember that man's name as he had personalized plates on his white sports car.
Sickening bastard he was trying to rape a 17 year old "kid", and yes, I was just that still, a "kid".
What a load is all I can say.
No recourse some 45 years later!
#MeToo indeed!
& recommend for the rest of the #MeToo women out there!
renate
(13,776 posts)Im so sorry that happened and Im so sorry it wasnt taken seriously.
And Im so sorry that years later this is still a scary memory whereas for him it was probably all in a days work.
Im so sick of this shit.
CountAllVotes
(20,869 posts)They just did not really give a damn, that was the problem and hence the reason I was out working a job at 17. I said I was 18 and no one ever knew the reality of any of it.
It sure ruined my life. No job, no nothing.
I had to apply for food stamps but was turned away as I was 17 years old and my parents were supposed to have a role in my life. Uh huh ....
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Was told this all through my teenage and college life a few decades ago. Growing up with the idea that "Boys will be boys" has always meant even "nice" boys would constantly try to do as much as they could get away with, under any circumstance---even hallways at school.
This has been the situation since at least the 50's, as far as I can tell from reading and asking older female relatives, when dating at a more frequent level, began as a cultural norm.
Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)For far too long, sexual assault and rape, especially for first-time (or so they claim) offenders have been treated as no more serious than a broken fingernail. This whole boys will be boys meme is disgusting, and in my more Abrahamic monents I wish to see an eye for an eye treatment, such as forced rape in return to punish a man convicted of rape. Perhps then rapists might understand the violence and humiliation of their crime. Instead, we have male judges who excuse their behavior and give them a slap on the wrist. Or parents who tell victims, It only takes twenty minutes, just lie back and enjoy it. And why would women come forward to report assault and rape when many police departments refuse to spend money having them tested, resulting in many more women being raped by serial rapists. Some police departments have decades-long rape kit backlogs, which sends a very clear message that the rape of women is totally unimportant as a crime. Until that attitude changes and there is real punishment for sexual assault, nothing will change.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)The counselors who work at rape crisis centers across America - and many are on college campuses - spend a lot of time counselling the young women into realizing that it's not their fault. Because most victims are only too willing to believe that it is their fault. Even some parents tell their daughters that, and it's so wrong and so unfair.
Rizen
(708 posts)We have to get people to vote democrat. Sadly there's cognitive resistance to voting. People are stupid; they're outraged but don't show up to vote.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)Addressing parents of daughters why we must vote out Republicans this November.
How anyone vote for Republicans after Dr. Ford tells the Senate Judiciary Committee her story that Republicans support an attempted rapist for Supreme Court.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)jmbar2
(4,886 posts)Thanks
jmbar2
(4,886 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,799 posts)What republican mothers teach their sons and daughters::::
Defending Kav....
"Tell me, what boy hasnt done this in high school?
Would the daughter feel that she might be supported if she told mommy?
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/407927-gop-women-issue-strong-defense-of-kavanaugh
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211165758
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Born in Cuba, she ran in the republican primary for Florida's 27th. Got 757 votes, describing herself as a "virtuous candidate." She's VERY pro-Trump. On everything. She's also a member of the Florida's Log Cabin Republicans, serving as treasurer and VP. Never married, she has no children.
I'm not sure that she's exactly the person I would ask to tell me what 17-year old boys do. (This is NOT meant as an insult, but an observation, so don't flame me.)
keithbvadu2
(36,799 posts)Mr.Bill
(24,286 posts)most notably the President of the United States, are telling boys if she doesn't report it to the police the very next day, you are home free.
And actually, being the idiot he is, the President said you need to report it to the FBI.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I thought that tells a telling story of the US Media and Male love/hate relationship with rape.
love_katz
(2,579 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)lovemydogs
(575 posts)The more this is sent out the more those who are regressive and thoughtless will have food for thought.
Luckily I have a family that is progressive but, we all know those who are just dumb.
BarbD
(1,192 posts)came to speak at my catholic girls high school. It was prom time. We were told we must wear modest formals with no cleavage (didn't even know what the word meant) showing. Strapless formals came with a tulle stole so catholic girls could cover up lest we become an occasion of sin for the boys.
Cha
(297,207 posts)kpete
Demovictory9
(32,454 posts)dchill
(38,489 posts)Worse, I'll bet. These bottom feeders are still at it.