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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNot right that Senator Cruz and his wife Heidi were surrounded and forced to leave a restaurant
last night because of protesters. The Cruz family should be treated with respect.
Link to tweet
Nevilledog
(51,096 posts)Until the injustices of 2016, 2004, & 2000 GEs is rectified, expect the majority to voice strong opposition to being wagged by the minority.
wryter2000
(46,040 posts)But that was the correct response from someone running for office.
Nevilledog
(51,096 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Right?
rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)rzemanfl
(29,557 posts)PJMcK
(22,035 posts)As far as I'm concerned, wish I had been at the restaurant. I would've gotten in Cruz's face and told him what I think of him.
Mr. O'Rourke is a better man than I.
area51
(11,908 posts)wants to take healthcare away from people. F him.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)LandOfHopeAndDreams
(872 posts)She is built of the SAME EXACT FIBER AS HIM.
hlthe2b
(102,255 posts)Runningdawg
(4,516 posts)that I bet Beto had a good laugh behind closed doors and was trolled by someone, without a funny bone in their body, who apparently thought she spoke for all liberals when she told me what a POS I was. LOL
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)I also see nothing wrong with Beto's Tweet.
Keep fighting Beto.
Timewas
(2,193 posts)He got what he deserved he has no respect for anyone including himself...He has disrespected everything this country stands for,why would he be due and respect.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)simply illustrated. The ones we can draw are looking for the decency and responsibility Republicans abandoned. Acting like trumpsters is like lying down with pigs; in short order, who can tell any difference or care to?
A lot of people who don't love Trump at all were big helps in getting him elected.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Protest people like Cruz at their jobs, leave them alone when they are shopping or dining.
We need to all vote strategically and eliminate people like Cruz from government.
LisaM
(27,810 posts)I think there are some exceptions to this, but I'm not entirely comfortable with heckling people who are dining and shopping in local businesses. Don't take that to mean that I defend anything Ted Cruz does - I think he's a raging hypocrite and that his policies are terrible - but sometimes I think these tactics could backfire.
I admire Beto O'Rourke for taking the stance that he did.
KPN
(15,644 posts)impact peoples lives for years to come. He willfully ventured into the public arena. People have the right to object to and protest him on the basis of his political positions whenever and wherever he is in the public. Restaurants are public places.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Some people get jazzed up about public protests, they think those protests work wonders. Yep, going after a dining Cruz helps him. I think O'Rourke realized that, hence his tweet, the tweet neutralizes the potential for Cruz to make hay from the protest.
KPN
(15,644 posts)To each his/her own I guess. Id rather both protest and vote him out. Protests are not entirely ineffective; not by a long stretch, especially when based on credible dissent, and sustained or consistently generated over time. Dont discount the effect of organic activism.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I rather stay focused on relentless policy proposals and selling them. I don't cotton to giving a snake one chance at sympathy, the protesters did that for Cruz.
KPN
(15,644 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)KPN
(15,644 posts)those who do not and deride those actions as a meaningless waste of time and favor the mechanics of crafting legislation.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)History clearly shows that the route that I prefer has produced far more progressive change to society. There have been moments for your approach, but most of the time, it gets ignored by those that are allowed to cling to power because some people are too pure to vote for someone that gives them 90% of what they demand.
KPN
(15,644 posts)periods of activism including protests that laid the groundwork and created the environment for such legislative changes. I'm not discounting the value or importance of crafting effective legislation -- it is absolutely necessary. The two go hand in hand.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)R B Garr
(16,952 posts)figure and handing that to him on a silver platter by showing him clutching at his wife as if she was unsafe. That's quite a stretch to distill that whole scenario down to that versus "mechanics of crafting legislation." LOL.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)That does not mean I think it is actually true.
Ted Cruz should be treated with the respect or disrespect HE HAS EARNED, and he should not be allowed a pass because his family or wife are with him. If he doesn't want them exposed to that, STOP EARNING THE PUBLIC'S DISRESPECT or don't appear in public with them. It is a problem of his own making, it's up to him to solve it.
procon
(15,805 posts)for egregious behavior. In Cruz's case, that might even include being identified and called out for the nasty things he says and the destructive policies he supported.
To each their own.
slater71
(1,153 posts)Maybe he thought that would help his election.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)with their spouse, how else might Ted choke to death on a piece of steak if he's continually drummed out of restaurants?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)not from anyone else, though.
Bettie
(16,104 posts)because I think that Ted should be chased out of every public venue by people who are disgusted with him.
Like that final Opera scene in Dangerous Liaisons. Just shunned by everyone for being a waste of skin.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I wanted to ignore this thread ATTACKING democrats but I couldnt
Kingofalldems
(38,455 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)"Here you go, get thee to the DU!"
Bettie
(16,104 posts)I think Ted Cruz is a piece of trash and he SHOULD be chased out of every venue he is in because of that.
Fer cryin' out loud.
Or are you mad becasue people are being disrespectful to Ted Cruz?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Some folks will do anything they can to point out ANY criticism of ANY democrats or in this case democratic protesters. NOT Beto.
Bettie
(16,104 posts)I saw it as a note that Beto is a really courteous, decent man rather than a critique of him.
As I said before, he's a MUCH better person than I am. I could not even imagine being marginally polite if faced with Cruz.
ETA: Now that I see who the OP was...I get why you'd assume that it was an attack. I merely read the tweet and did not pay much attention to the source.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)certain folks who will jump on ANYTHING that attacks DEMOCRATS
And then some of them will make smart ass snarky comments and the only way to avoid problems is to ignore them.
R B Garr
(16,952 posts)Democrats are pitted against one another/each other. Undeniable at this point.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)R B Garr
(16,952 posts)Internet "plots"...
betsuni
(25,507 posts)peggysue2
(10,828 posts)That being said, I doubt he'd get the same from Lizard Man Cruz.
Cha
(297,196 posts)And guess what? My son's wedding on the Outer Banks actually happened. We were sweating it right up to the moment of departure. But the evacuation was lifted and the wedding was beautiful, right on the beach.
Sometimes, things work out
Now I need to transfer that lucky star to November 6th in General and to Beto O'Rourke specifically. As well as all our other Dem candidates.
We can do this!! And we can get North & South Carolina up and running again--the state interiors and coastal towns are still a bloody mess.
All things are doable!
Cha
(297,196 posts)married life!
I love your enthusiasm, peggysue!
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)This is Texas we are dealing with. As I said in an earlier post, he understands that many Texans are scared of civil disorder, bless their little hearts...
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Now, if Cruz tries to use the protest against Beto, Cruz will look like a hamfisted fool.
TeamPooka
(24,223 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,682 posts)Kindof like dogs hearing higher than humans.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Watch what they Do as well as what they Say. Like he says, he fights for the underdog. It got him some votes...I guarantee it.
Luz
(772 posts)davsand
(13,421 posts)I think (judging only on his media presence--never have met him in the flesh!) Beto seems like a really good guy. Good guys don't act like assholes.
I, however, am not nice human, and I am not running for office. F*** Cruz. His wife probably doesn't deserve public ridicule except for the fact that she happens to be married to a piece of scum, so if she gets some crap while she's out with him, too bad. Also pretty sure everybody who has been hurt by Cruz's terrible votes probably wouldn't be terribly sad to hear his dinner in some posh DC place was disrupted.
Good thing there are nice guys out there like Beto. They keep assholes like me in line sometimes.
Just sayin.
Laura
idcdu
(170 posts)If I was next to Cruz, he'd be tarred and feathered, and his wallet stolen (and thrown away)
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Michelle and Obama would do and say the same thing.
I think its exemplary manners for a politician. I wish I could vote for Beto.
lindysalsagal
(20,682 posts)Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)On the one hand I believe that we should be decent to each other and not behave this way in public.
On the other hand,people like Cruz and Sarah Sanders have made it their life's work to terrorize working people with policy and deception. Would I be comfortable having a terrorist or someone who abuses the elderly and the poor for profit dining next to me? If they were physically assaulting an innocent person rather than doing it through policy and lies would I force their removal? I think I would.
pecosbob
(7,538 posts)we would each have to make that choice in real time. I would probably heckle Cruz, but I'm from Texas and hate what people like him have made of the state where I grew up. It used to be a nice place to live...now it's a pretty hateful place.
Dick Cheney or Henry Kissinger...I'd definitely harass them, but most of the truly evil have enough sense not to mingle with the commons. Toadies like Gump's spokesperson SHS may be pretty dislikable but probably don't deserve that kind of harassment.
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)was untied from the dock, set on fire and pushed offshore by the gop years ago.
I couldn't care less if someone slipped ex-lax into Cruz's dinner.
There'll be time to restore decency into our politics once most of these racist, bigoted, liars, power hungry, sell outs, traitors in the gop are voted out, or shamed out.
Gloves are off.
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Docreed2003
(16,858 posts)It's easy to say that we would be on the side of the protesters...most of us feel the same way. Yet, Beto is choosing to take a high ground here that Ted would likely never take. For that, I applaud Beto.
lindysalsagal
(20,682 posts)Msnbc just reported $150 entrees with $150 extra fees for rare caviar, plus expensive wines. With the threat of killing ss and healthcare, and the fact that it 's near the election, he had it coming.
spin
(17,493 posts)and their families at a restaurant?
I am surprised this hasnt already happened.
I dont agree with such tactics no matter which side is employing them. Its not all that big a step from harassment to physical violence.
ck4829
(35,072 posts)It is not right that we have a health care "system" that values money over patients.
It is not right that billionaires are viewed as demigods according to Republicans.
It is not right that people are in poverty but they don't matter because, hey, the Dow broke a new record!
It is not right that the same Evangelicals who pushed the 2003 Iraq War to bring on the "end times" are now viewed as paragons of religious freedom.
We need to pick and choose our battles, I choose not to battle for the crooked Cruz family, sorry.
DFW
(54,372 posts)Not right that Senator Cruz and his wife Heidi were surrounded and forced to leave a restaurant last night because of protesters.
Agree
The Cruz family should be treated with respect.
Disagree--if the Cruz family wanted that, he should not have acted like an asshole the moment he was sworn in, and then only gotten worse since.