False argument: if Kav isn't confirmed, they'll just confirm someone who is even more right wing

[stopbush]

Hearing this bullshit argument on MSNBC.

Fact: anyone tRump nominates and the Senate confirms is going to be a conservative, most likely a raging conservative. There’s nothing we can do about that.

However, what they will NOT be is a combination of who and what Kavanaugh is:

- an accused sex abuser

- a person put on the court SPECIFICALLY to shield tRump from indictment

- a person who has perjured himself numerous times before the Senate

- a person who will vote to overturn Roe

- a person who spent decades as a dirty tricks operative for the GOP

Let them nominate someone farther to the right of Kavanaugh. They will all vote the same way when it comes to policy. It’s Kavanaugh’s extra baggage that is the problem here.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Yeah, the time to worry about this was when people were whining about our

presidential candidate.

The FACT that Roe and Griswold and practically all other rights are gone is a done deal, for now.

We may get them back someday, maybe.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

did NOT have to happen

And if they are not ALL gone, they could be...which is the FUCKING POINT

[Garrett78]

2. The one pro to Kavanaugh getting appointed would be...

...he's more impeachable than others would be.

But I still think it's more important to prevent his appointment.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

8. Preventing his appointment

Will be far easier than trying to remove him later. And removing him wouldn't undo any of the damage he might (probably will) do while he's there, especially if it involves Trump/Russia.

[Garrett78]

12. Agreed. And it sends a terrible message to survivors of sexual assault.

As if Trump being in office isn't bad enough.

[Baitball Blogger]

3. I think it will be harder to ram another operative through.

We are in attack mode, so the next person better smell like a rose.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

4. Don't forget Gamble v. U.S.

Once the Supremes reverse the Appellate court's findings Trump will be able to pardon whoever he wants -- those convicted of Federal crimes and also those convicted of state crimes.

It's called the "Keep Junior Out of Jail" case.

[link:https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/trump-pardon-orrin-hatch-supreme-court/571285/|
Gamble v. United States]

[dalton99a]

7. +1

[dalton99a]

5. Same logic behind "We'd better keep Trump as president because it would be worse without him"

[Proud Liberal Dem]

10. Not an equivalent situation IMHO

Trump has to stand for re-election in 2 years at which time the American public can vote him out (plus a Democratic Congress can help constrain him for the next 2 years if they win one or both chambers). Kavanaugh would be on the Court for the rest of his life or until he retires and would require an extraordinary vote in Congress to remove him, something BTW is not likely to happen with Trump either.

[Le Gaucher]

6. Even if it is true .. We'll fight the battle when we get there.. Need to kick the rapist to the curb

First

[yurbud]

9. Even if they do, it will take a while to get that person through the pipe

Democrats should learn a lesson from Republicans and use delay as a weapon.

It would be nice to at least get someone who isn't from the Federalist Society bench, if such a conservative exists.

[honest.abe]

11. "a person put on the court SPECIFICALLY to shield tRump from indictment"

That is the key reason they are working so hard to get this guy on board. Kavajerk has sold his soul to the GOP and Trump and will vote however they want him to as long as he is confirmed.