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MSNBC just broke report on 3rd Kavanaugh victim to come forward (this woman represented by Avenatti) (Original Post) bigtree Sep 2018 OP
Ugh! She is not claiming to be a victim of Kavanaugh but a witnesss 4139 Sep 2018 #1
That isn't what appears in her affidavit. At all. She says she was gang raped. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #2
Yes. The text of her deposition Lindsay Sep 2018 #4
Yes but She doesn't say raped by Kavanaugh only that he was at the party 4139 Sep 2018 #5
doesn't matter qazplm135 Sep 2018 #10
Avenatti just pointed to line 13 in rebuttal to the suggestion that Kavanaugh was not involved bigtree Sep 2018 #12
Which he (R) has been lying about Achilleaze Sep 2018 #21
correct bigtree Sep 2018 #8
Most of today's date rape drugs weren't available yet, but Hortensis Sep 2018 #19
in the mid seventies folks had huge pickle jars full of them bigtree Sep 2018 #23
13. As a parent, scary. I had friends who used them, Hortensis Sep 2018 #24
you're wrong. Read her affidavit bigtree Sep 2018 #3
She says Kavanaugh was "present" she does not say he raped her 4139 Sep 2018 #9
She was drugged so I wouldn't expect her to recall specifically who was raping her. honest.abe Sep 2018 #16
He was present. His best friend admitted gang raping one girl. Blue_true Sep 2018 #17
Not really a good try there. Kingofalldems Sep 2018 #20
Its there. Demsrule86 Sep 2018 #6
Please correct or delete your post. this is ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. See pg 3, section 13 hlthe2b Sep 2018 #7
I'm looking at page 3, line 13... it says Kavanaugh was present... not participant 4139 Sep 2018 #13
You SAID (and I quote): "She is not claiming to be a victim, but a witnesss" hlthe2b Sep 2018 #14
She is not claiming to be a victim of Kavanaugh... 4139 Sep 2018 #15
As I stated.. your original post is tremendously erroneous and should be corrected. hlthe2b Sep 2018 #18
No, not better. Read her affadavit Achilleaze Sep 2018 #22
I hope she stays safe. NurseJackie Sep 2018 #11

Lindsay

(3,276 posts)
4. Yes. The text of her deposition
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:32 AM
Sep 2018

is in this DU thread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211183107

(Sorry if that's not the best way to link things, but it was the quickest way I knew. The OP has the text.)

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
10. doesn't matter
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:35 AM
Sep 2018

first, she says she was drugged so she doesn't know if he did or didn't rape her.

But she saw him in line to rape other women, and she saw him there that time when she was raped.

So there's a pretty darn good chance he raped her.

Not court of law stuff per se (and even that's arguable), but way more than needed to remove this guy from consideration.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
12. Avenatti just pointed to line 13 in rebuttal to the suggestion that Kavanaugh was not involved
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:40 AM
Sep 2018

...strongly suggesting that the allegation is that Kavanaugh was involved.

I can see where the affidavit allows your point, though, absent some clarification from her counsel.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
21. Which he (R) has been lying about
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 12:08 PM
Sep 2018

We don't need no more stinkin republican liars. Too many already.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
8. correct
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:35 AM
Sep 2018

"In approximately 1982 I became the victim of one of these "gang" or "train" rapes where Mark Judge of Brett Kavanaugh were present...During the incident, I was incapacitated without my consent and unable to fight off the boys raping me."

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Most of today's date rape drugs weren't available yet, but
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 12:03 PM
Sep 2018

Quaalude would have been in 1981-83. I just checked and it was banned in 1982 and off the market in 1983 but no doubt still around. And there were one or two others.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
23. in the mid seventies folks had huge pickle jars full of them
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:02 PM
Sep 2018

...sold them for 50 cents a pill.

We were all in junior high school at the time. 13 yrs. old. North Bethesda.

I'm certain they were still around, not many, but still around at the time of the alleged incidents.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. 13. As a parent, scary. I had friends who used them,
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 01:17 PM
Sep 2018

and everything else, but one advantage of being significantly younger than most was seeing what drugs were doing to others. Looking back, I have a new appreciation for my boyfriend and his friends. I was offered plenty that was being passed around, but even though I was working and had money, no one at those gatherings ever approached me directly to sell or introduce me to new drugs. Never realized then how they must have been protecting me.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. He was present. His best friend admitted gang raping one girl.
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:54 AM
Sep 2018

Doesn't take much to conclude one of two things, Kavabaugh at the minimum was complicit in the rapes, most likely he was involved in the rapes. Either one disqualifies him, the latter can put him in prison.

4139

(1,893 posts)
13. I'm looking at page 3, line 13... it says Kavanaugh was present... not participant
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:46 AM
Sep 2018

Not that He raped her.

She doesn’t say that Kavanaugh did anything to her

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
14. You SAID (and I quote): "She is not claiming to be a victim, but a witnesss"
Wed Sep 26, 2018, 11:51 AM
Sep 2018

ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!!!!

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