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leftyladyfrommo

(18,868 posts)
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 07:22 AM Sep 2018

I have a govt. question.

If the Fed. govt is nonfunctional can the State governments move in to fill the huge gaps?

The current Fed. court system is becoming just a political body. The Emergency system is hopelessly broken.

The health and education departments are going down.

We need something to fill in these huge holes.

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I have a govt. question. (Original Post) leftyladyfrommo Sep 2018 OP
Not really DeminPennswoods Sep 2018 #1
--- or to put it another way, We're fucked. 3Hotdogs Sep 2018 #2
The federal government is not Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #3
As proven by Puerto Rico 1 year after Maria. nt leftyladyfrommo Sep 2018 #4
A valid point but more a question of Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #7
Our separation of powers and checks and balances do not seem to be working. DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #5
Yet the mail arrives daily Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #6
Benefits checks went out DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #8
The point was of the nonfunctionalality of Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #9
The government is functioning largely thanks to the "deep state", errr permanent bureaucracy . DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2018 #10
And that was not the question of Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #11
It did that in Germany circa 1944, that's not a functioning gov uponit7771 Sep 2018 #12
It is a functioning Sherman A1 Sep 2018 #14
"If the Fed. govt is nonfunctional can the State governments move in to fill the huge gaps?" BumRushDaShow Sep 2018 #13

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
1. Not really
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 07:25 AM
Sep 2018

States will go on with their usual business of doing the things each state does using their own revenue, but many state projects have a federal dollar component so those things get cut back, delayed, etc.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
5. Our separation of powers and checks and balances do not seem to be working.
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 08:35 AM
Sep 2018

They are certainly not working as the founders envisioned them.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
6. Yet the mail arrives daily
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 08:39 AM
Sep 2018

Social Security checks go out, planed are guided to their destinations, highway projects continue and all. Yes, we have large problems with the current leadership, but it’s a huge stretch to say that the government is nonfunctional.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. Benefits checks went out
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 08:43 AM
Sep 2018

Benefits checks went out, planes were guided to their destinations, highway projects continued in the Shah's Iran, Batista's Cuba, Franco's Spain, Marcos' Philippines and Putin's Russia but their constitutional systems were or are clearly broken.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
9. The point was of the nonfunctionalality of
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 08:48 AM
Sep 2018

Government, which could have been answered had the OP paid attention in High School Civics. It was not a question of the working of any constitutional system. If that’s the question I am sure it can be asked.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
10. The government is functioning largely thanks to the "deep state", errr permanent bureaucracy .
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 08:52 AM
Sep 2018

But our separation of powers and checks and balances are breaking down.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
14. It is a functioning
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 11:13 AM
Sep 2018

Government. Granted that was not one of which most would approve, but it was functional. The OP asked about function not constitutional issues which seems to be the issue with the various responses.

BumRushDaShow

(128,962 posts)
13. "If the Fed. govt is nonfunctional can the State governments move in to fill the huge gaps?"
Fri Sep 28, 2018, 09:14 AM
Sep 2018

States already do this, whether the federal government is "functional" or not. In our "Republic" form of government, a state's operational hierarchy generally mirrors the federal one.

Federal "involvement" happens through use of federal tax money to fund agencies that do work that benefits all states and through "3rd-party" handling of interactions between states ("interstate commerce" ). But a problem could be financial (lack of a sufficient tax base within a state) and the potential lack of other types of resources that would need to come from other states or from national entities, to help a particular state in need.

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