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CousinIT

(9,257 posts)
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 06:44 PM Sep 2018

Brett Kavanaugh's Former Roommate Describes Their Debauched Dorm at Yale

https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/kavanaugh-roommate-yale-dorm-room.html

In the fall of 1983, three weeks into his freshman year at Yale, Kit Winter switched dorm rooms. He had been sharing a room on the fourth floor of Lawrance Hall, entryway D, with a kid from Rhode Island named James Garman. But Garman was studious and Winter liked to stay up late, and they had heard about an unoccupied single in the basement. So they cooked up a scheme to tell the dean that they weren’t getting along, and Winter moved down to LD01, a three-man suite, where two rooms opened up onto a large living area. Winter took over the empty single. The double was already occupied. James Roche, who has publicly supported Deborah Ramirez in her account of being sexually threatened by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, lived there. And so did Kavanaugh himself.

Winter immediately noted the cold, alienated dynamic in LD01; the place was profoundly inhospitable even by 1980s college standards. “It was a dungeon space,” recollects Garman, now an organic farmer. “It was dark and it was cellar-like, and it was thoroughly creepy.”

And while on the first floor of entryway C, a group of guys had gotten together some furniture and a big-screen TV, creating a gathering place for people who liked to watch sports, the living room down in LD01 remained entirely unfurnished except for an old keg — “and I think there was also a broken floor lamp much of the time,” Winter recalls. “And as you might expect in a sizable empty room, there were a lot of dust balls and Solo cups and trash on the floor. It was not an inviting space. It was pretty grim.” The environment was disturbing enough that Winter mentioned it to his high school friend Itamar Kubovy, who also ultimately went to Yale. “I remember Kit saying how uncomfortable it was, how creepy it was,” Kubovy recalls. [Editor’s note: Winter, Kubovy, and I went to high school together in New Haven, and Winter’s family and mine were friends.]

Especially disgusting was the shared bathroom, which was always covered in vomit. Kavanaugh and his crowd, whom Winter characterizes as “loud, obnoxious frat boy-like drunks” were the hardest drinkers on campus even back then, when hard drinking did not hold the stigma it does today. In a statement earlier this week, Roche recalled Kavanaugh “frequently drinking excessively and becoming incoherently drunk,” and Winter corroborates that recollection. “There was a lot of vomit in the bathroom. No one ever cleaned it up. It was disgusting. It wasn’t incidental. It wasn’t, ‘Oh, this weekend someone puked in the bathroom.’ People were constantly puking in the bathroom. Constantly.” Lori Adams, a retired psychiatrist in Underhill, Vermont, was a friend of Winter’s at Yale. “I remember,” she says, “that you couldn’t use the bathroom because his roommates vomited all over the floor and didn’t clean it up.” (Winter clarifies that Roche wasn’t much of a drinker and that although he himself drank a fair amount during freshman year, he very rarely drank to the point of throwing up.)
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leftieNanner

(15,154 posts)
1. I hope all of these guys call the FBI
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 06:47 PM
Sep 2018

Perhaps the White House has limited the scope of what they are permitted to investigate, but if information comes to them independently, I can't imagine that they will ignore it.

renate

(13,776 posts)
3. that's what I was just wondering
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 06:51 PM
Sep 2018

Maybe they can't go to the people whom the White House has said they can't go to, but can those people go to them?

CousinIT

(9,257 posts)
4. FBI guy on Maddow last night (Joy Reid hosting) said...
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 06:57 PM
Sep 2018

...that ANYBODY with information on the allegations against Kavenaugh or the testimony of Kavanaugh and Ford can contact their local FBI office and give the info.

They said people DO NOT have to wait to be contacted by the FBI - they can contact their local field office and offer up the info.

So I'd say the answer is: YES. People can go to the FBI with info.

renate

(13,776 posts)
6. so the White House's obstruction could backfire (in the court of public opinion) on them?
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 07:08 PM
Sep 2018

Oh, what a shame.

CousinIT

(9,257 posts)
7. I don't know whether they'd investigate what WH told them they "can't" but if additional info
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 07:11 PM
Sep 2018

was provided about what they are told they can investigate, if people come forward with any info the FBI can use (even about what isn't on Trump's "OK to investigate" list), it seems they should contact their local FBI field office and offer it up.

FBI Field offices:

https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
2. K&R
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 06:50 PM
Sep 2018

The more people talk, the more Brett Kavanaugh sounds like a huge liar. This sounds disgusting. I went to a party school, but it was nothing like this.

erronis

(15,335 posts)
10. "Was bulimic"? How about "is still a drunk with a problem that puts us all at risk"?
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:20 PM
Sep 2018

I don't think this addicted personality has ever resolved his issues. While love of beer seems to be paramount, it has appeared that love of risk taking (gambling) is also present. Join that with unwelcome/unprotected sex and poor self-control in front of a fairly important group of legislators.

This all makes for the best that the republicons and the FedSoc (sux?) can put forward? Are you people toying with US?

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
9. They were all wating....
Sat Sep 29, 2018, 09:16 PM
Sep 2018

for the maid to clean it up. They hadn't quite yet realized that they were in charge of themselves at this point of their lives.

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